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Eh was hoping for perhaps some flavor of custom ME dice. but i cant complain about more dice for the dice gods.

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Sprue pictures of the hunter are now up on the Kickstarter updates page:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/medge/maelstroms-edge-a-next-gen-sci-fi-miniatures-warga/posts/1224283

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Those look very impressive. They look like they will go together like the smoothest gunpla.

The first thing that I noticed was the scarcity of attachment points, and the ease with which they will clean up. Then I read that you specifically placed them on parts of the model that won't be seen, and I mentally gave you a high five.

The posing possibilities should allow for larger numbers of distinctive Hunters. I really want to see what Major Tom does with this kit.



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Well today I got to look at some of the infantry sprues, and they're frankly stunning.

Anyone who has doubts about the Epirians needs to stop, because the details on those guys is exquisite. I'd say they're just as good as what Wyrd is putting out, if not better. There is so much fine detail that isn't coming across on the pictures they have on the KS page.

I can only hope the mechs are half as good as these guys, because the Epirian's themselves knocked it out of the park. They'll give a nice challenge to any painter.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
Well today I got to look at some of the infantry sprues, and they're frankly stunning.

Anyone who has doubts about the Epirians needs to stop, because the details on those guys is exquisite. I'd say they're just as good as what Wyrd is putting out, if not better. There is so much fine detail that isn't coming across on the pictures they have on the KS page.

I can only hope the mechs are half as good as these guys, because the Epirian's themselves knocked it out of the park. They'll give a nice challenge to any painter.


I don't think anyone doubts the technical side of things, just the designs and sculpts. Detail doesn't help in that case.
   
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Meh, if you don't like the sculpts thats fair, but really the sculpts are amazing. The detail will let you do a lot, and they're quite posable.

The guns themselves are really impressive. They lose a lot of the blockyness in person.

Paint also can cover some of the issues. I think the stock paint jobs aren't showing the true impressiveness of the miniatures.

They're way better than Guardsmen, thats for sure.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
Meh, if you don't like the sculpts thats fair, but really the sculpts are amazing. The detail will let you do a lot, and they're quite posable.

The guns themselves are really impressive. They lose a lot of the blockyness in person.

Paint also can cover some of the issues. I think the stock paint jobs aren't showing the true impressiveness of the miniatures.

They're way better than Guardsmen, thats for sure.


That really doesn't come across from their presentation. Is their blocky silhouette, with the too-wide shoulder pads, pencil neck and squarish head simply an artifact of poor assembly? I'm not sure how much the problem of their basic proportions can be attributed to bad photographs. If the details are as good as you say, hopefully they will get someone with some fine skills and a great camera to do some damage control.


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Does anyone else feel like the creators have gone a bit quiet the last few days?

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They've been heavily posting on KS for the last few days and are writing lots of background apparently for daily KS updates. I expect they are a little snowed under.

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There are a couple of things:


1) One of the complaints we were getting is that for people who hadn't been following the thread from the very beginning and kind of knew who each SAS team member was, it could be very confusing to read all the different team members responding to questions. As such, we've created this account and are trying to mainly respond using it. However, that does naturally mean that responses will sometimes take a little longer to occur than when each member was just jumping on to answer the questions when they saw them.


2) There has been a decline in the amount of direct questions asked in the last few days, as a lot of the main ones have been answered already.




   
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 Grey Templar wrote:
Well today I got to look at some of the infantry sprues, and they're frankly stunning.

Anyone who has doubts about the Epirians needs to stop, because the details on those guys is exquisite. I'd say they're just as good as what Wyrd is putting out, if not better. There is so much fine detail that isn't coming across on the pictures they have on the KS page.

I can only hope the mechs are half as good as these guys, because the Epirian's themselves knocked it out of the park. They'll give a nice challenge to any painter.


Its not the level of detail I have issue with. Its the basic design and blocky silhouette of them. Blocky, guns, blocky shoulder pads and blocky hats just don't look good to me. One or maybe two of those would be ok but all of them together does not work for me.

Telling people they have to stop having doubts about a product they have seen photos of (Photos that the company themselves chose to showcase as an example of the models) because you like them doesn't seem right to me.

I like the other faction quite a bit so the problem for me isnt the level of detail or what quality of the end product but the sculpts themselves and the design behind them. If others like them that's great and I genuinly hope they sell well to those who are fans.

Also in your other post it seems like you are saying this "Its fine to dislike the sculpts, now let me tell you why you are wrong."

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 Grey Templar wrote:
Meh, if you don't like the sculpts thats fair, but really the sculpts are amazing. The detail will let you do a lot, and they're quite posable.

The guns themselves are really impressive. They lose a lot of the blockyness in person.

Paint also can cover some of the issues. I think the stock paint jobs aren't showing the true impressiveness of the miniatures.

They're way better than Guardsmen, thats for sure.


Your post really leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

REALLY

You call these stock paint jobs, but they are the paint jobs from some of Dakkadakkas best painters, and painters used massively by kickstarters. To try and say that the "problem" some of us are having with the figures is due to poor paint jobs is a slap in their faces.

Just my opinion, which I've kept quiet on so far. I hope the game does well as I love dakkadakka and the team, but so far there haven't been any models that I even remotely am interested in. If I can substitute other figures and play a decent rules set then I'll be happy, but so far I'm just not overly impressed.

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I'm sure this was asked a dozen times but I'm too lazy to search.. will the hunter mechs be available separately as add-ons?

 
   
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I'm sure this was asked a dozen times but I'm too lazy to search.. will the hunter mechs be available separately as add-ons?


It has been asked a dozen times already!

The answer is no, unfortunately. Currently only the terrain sprue is available as an add-on.

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This is a tabletop wargame. While there are tokens, there are no cards map tiles or other board game features, and while most of us love hard plastic... the board game crowd seems to prefer preassembled or simple assembly minis. Medge looks to be one of the most skill-intensive starter sets to assemble on the market.

More exposure is good but I don't think Medge is game BGG is looking for.

 
   
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Question about the robots: How tall are they exactly?

The Hunter looks like ~48mm tall (guestimate).

If that's true, you might want to add a stretch goal to the KS with Robots only. You might sell quite a few to the Battletech/CAV crowd...

Those sprues look very good, a proper way to do robots in HIPS!

I am curious, how much more expensive is that vs. a traditional two part steel mold (percentage wise)? On one had you have a smaller mold because you don't have as many parts, on the other hand the sliding mold is more expensive. I've always suspected that the added costs wouldn't be as staggering as always assumed.

Doesn't GW (Baneblade) and Dreamforge (Leviathan) also use sliding molds on certain kits?

   
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Cergorach wrote:
Question about the robots: How tall are they exactly?

The Hunter looks like ~48mm tall (guestimate).

If that's true, you might want to add a stretch goal to the KS with Robots only. You might sell quite a few to the Battletech/CAV crowd...

Those sprues look very good, a proper way to do robots in HIPS!

I am curious, how much more expensive is that vs. a traditional two part steel mold (percentage wise)? On one had you have a smaller mold because you don't have as many parts, on the other hand the sliding mold is more expensive. I've always suspected that the added costs wouldn't be as staggering as always assumed.

Doesn't GW (Baneblade) and Dreamforge (Leviathan) also use sliding molds on certain kits?



It is indeed 48mm. Thanks for the kind words on the sprues - a lot of care, love and attention went in to each one.

Sliding core incurs many additional costs in terms of time, flexibility and capabilities that add to the 'staggering' assumption as well as the raw financial difference.

The Baneblade uses a very simple sliding core - nothing close to the level of complexity used on the hunters. The Leviathan also uses some which are done very well as you would not know if you are not looking for it, but it allowed that model to avoid having some nasty seams. Mantic used them on their recent zombies (on the legs) to good effect too. Due to the complexity involved, it is a rare and infrequent choice for wargaming companies to use sliding cores. There are some pretty simple sliding cores that can be used for hollowing out gun barrels (literally just a pin coming in from the outside of the tool), but they are not the same thing as having a full extra side (or more) to a mould.

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The barrels are indeed rather simple sliding molds, but very effective at reducing parts and delicate barrels (as with the heavy bolters from the SM kits).

btw. I mean a robot only Pledge and not a stretch goal. Something with four or twelve robots would be interesting (depending on price of course).

I already upped my pledge to two $90 sets, would more be possible by just adding x amount?
   
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 Theophony wrote:
 Grey Templar wrote:
Meh, if you don't like the sculpts thats fair, but really the sculpts are amazing. The detail will let you do a lot, and they're quite posable.

The guns themselves are really impressive. They lose a lot of the blockyness in person.

Paint also can cover some of the issues. I think the stock paint jobs aren't showing the true impressiveness of the miniatures.

They're way better than Guardsmen, thats for sure.


Your post really leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

REALLY

You call these stock paint jobs, but they are the paint jobs from some of Dakkadakkas best painters, and painters used massively by kickstarters. To try and say that the "problem" some of us are having with the figures is due to poor paint jobs is a slap in their faces.

Just my opinion, which I've kept quiet on so far. I hope the game does well as I love dakkadakka and the team, but so far there haven't been any models that I even remotely am interested in. If I can substitute other figures and play a decent rules set then I'll be happy, but so far I'm just not overly impressed.


I don't mean to say they're bad paint jobs. They're not. They just might be causing some exaggeration of the blockyness to some people. The camera adds 10 pounds as the saying goes, especially if it combines with other factors.

By ''stock'' I really just mean that paint job they're using as the examples. Its not to say they are bad. I mean, even GW had good paint jobs on their stock box art models(till recently). Calling them stock isn't an insult.

You really need to see the models in person.


A suggestion for the SaS people. You should post a video of you actually handling the sprues. The static pictures aren't quite doing them justice, it would help to see some actual fingers next to them.

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Well, the things that I do have interest in are not available separately, I'm dubious as to the quality of some items, there are no specific purchase add-ons, the game is funded, so the logical course of action is just wait until retail and buy what I actually do want without all the other stuff. No offense to Yakface (I don't actually think of him as having been a good thing for 40k sorry) I will wait until I read reviews from non-biased people before spending anything more than a few supportive bucks on this.

   
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How much will those mech be going for by themself? Any way to get them as an add on?



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Grot 6 - Currently the Hunters are not available as Add-ons.

And I'm not sure if they will be selling these individually. But given the slow leak of Information. (Which I like, keeps me coming back here during work to see what is going on) It could possibly be given as an Add-on much later in the kick starter. And surely at some point after it will be available individually at retail.

It's still too early to tell.

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I think my only gripe with what's offered so far is I'd like to see a few more infantry figures in the box.

Otherwise I'm quite content with what we're going to be getting.

I do like the extra suppression token stretch goal, as they'll do a wonderful job of making the board look like it's completely on fire.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
 Grey Templar wrote:
Meh, if you don't like the sculpts thats fair, but really the sculpts are amazing. The detail will let you do a lot, and they're quite posable.

The guns themselves are really impressive. They lose a lot of the blockyness in person.

Paint also can cover some of the issues. I think the stock paint jobs aren't showing the true impressiveness of the miniatures.

They're way better than Guardsmen, thats for sure.


Your post really leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

REALLY

You call these stock paint jobs, but they are the paint jobs from some of Dakkadakkas best painters, and painters used massively by kickstarters. To try and say that the "problem" some of us are having with the figures is due to poor paint jobs is a slap in their faces.

Just my opinion, which I've kept quiet on so far. I hope the game does well as I love dakkadakka and the team, but so far there haven't been any models that I even remotely am interested in. If I can substitute other figures and play a decent rules set then I'll be happy, but so far I'm just not overly impressed.


I don't mean to say they're bad paint jobs. They're not. They just might be causing some exaggeration of the blockyness to some people. The camera adds 10 pounds as the saying goes, especially if it combines with other factors.

By ''stock'' I really just mean that paint job they're using as the examples. Its not to say they are bad. I mean, even GW had good paint jobs on their stock box art models(till recently). Calling them stock isn't an insult.

You really need to see the models in person.


A suggestion for the SaS people. You should post a video of you actually handling the sprues. The static pictures aren't quite doing them justice, it would help to see some actual fingers next to them.


Honestly I don't understand the "you should see them irl" thing that many people are saying. I've never had to see models in real life before to know if I liked them or not. Photos are always enough in my experience. Don't know why this would be different.

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Mymearan wrote:

Honestly I don't understand the "you should see them irl" thing that many people are saying. I've never had to see models in real life before to know if I liked them or not. Photos are always enough in my experience. Don't know why this would be different.


You've never experienced that? I thought flames of war's WW2 stuff looked horrifyingly bad based on photos online, but when I finally saw the 15mm scale models in the flesh I was sold on their aesthetic, bought some there and then, and now have three full FoW armies (LW Brits, LW SS and LW Soviet).

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 legoburner wrote:
Mymearan wrote:

Honestly I don't understand the "you should see them irl" thing that many people are saying. I've never had to see models in real life before to know if I liked them or not. Photos are always enough in my experience. Don't know why this would be different.


You've never experienced that? I thought flames of war's WW2 stuff looked horrifyingly bad based on photos online, but when I finally saw the 15mm scale models in the flesh I was sold on their aesthetic, bought some there and then, and now have three full FoW armies (LW Brits, LW SS and LW Soviet).


Let's use a GW model.

Mournfangs look terrible on the gw pictures but are amazing in person.

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