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The throwing rule is a nice idea but a bit flawed in the execution. If a vehicle explodes, it's removed from the table IIRC and not left as terrain to signify the paucity of remaining wreckage. If it explodes, does the knight scoop it all up in a giant chain-dustpan and then throw it?

 warboss wrote:
The throwing rule is a nice idea but a bit flawed in the execution. If a vehicle explodes, it's removed from the table IIRC and not left as terrain to signify the paucity of remaining wreckage. If it explodes, does the knight scoop it all up in a giant chain-dustpan and then throw it?

I think the idea is that the removal of the wreckage is just an expedient for the game. It is still there/a wreck, just easier to pull it from the table.

 ClassicCarraway wrote:
Anybody else find it comical that these Knights are almost 100 points more than the WK but nowhere near as good?

Definitely better, but I don't think the difference is quite as wide as you make it out to be.

Knights have a better invuln, albeit on one facing. That said, they always have the shield no matter what armament they take.

Knights can be taken as an army by themselves, they don't need other units to be bought alongside.

Knights overall have a more versatile weapons array, with plenty anti-infantry and anti-tank to go around, even a smattering of anti-air as well.

Wraithknights on the other hand have to choose between having a 5+ invuln or heavy wraithcannons, they're either limited to 1 per CAD, or you need to pay a host tax before you take them.

Wraithknights' weaponry isn't all that versatile, and they have no anti-air.

This isn't taking into account the adamantium lance formation either.

No D weapons?

I'm surprised, i thought the eldar 'dex was the start of a strength D arms race.

Thanks to those who did some german translation, particularly 'broken record'.

I wasn't expecting the points to be as high as they are, the existing ones may even stay the same points cost. (i still hope for a points reduction for errant/paladin knights in the codex)

Wraithknights on the other hand have to choose between having a 5+ invuln or heavy wraithcannons, they're either limited to 1 per CAD, or you need to pay a host tax before you take them.

The WK's come with a 5+ FNP now. It's not an invuln, but it's not like they won't have something if they get hit with an Ap3 gun.

The hurling concept is stolen from Warmachine colossals/gargantuans, right?
Heck, the whole "huge model syndrome" is.
Not that Im complaining Awesome models!

More pics in good quality (German White Dwarf)

http://www.gamestrust.de/news,warhammer-40-000-imperiale-ritter-bilder-knight-warden-modell-regeln-aus-wd-66,id42837.html












Poster included in the mag





Next issue:
Army of the month
Hall of heroes (I dont know)
Lords of Mars

Warhams-77 wrote:
More pics in good quality (German White Dwarf)

http://www.gamestrust.de/news,warhammer-40-000-imperiale-ritter-bilder-knight-warden-modell-regeln-aus-wd-66,id42837.html




Next issue:
Army of the month
Hall of heroes (Citadel miniature? I dont know)
Lords of Mars

wish those weren't blocked..

Lords of Mars *squeeeee*
Now I need to decide if I'll hold off on a knight.. The way I would equip him would be 430 pts, but it's a lot of dakka, but giant robots from mars might be nice too...

So brushes depending on the size/fiddlyness of the object you're painting.. huh. Not a bad idea. Called it on the glaze brush though lol.

That two close combat weapon Knight better either come with a big points discount or some fancy special rules to make up for the lack of shooting. +1 attacks ain't gonna cut it.

Alternatively the two gun knight needs a point reduction since it's no longer a D-weapon platform

changemod wrote:
That two close combat weapon Knight better either come with a big points discount or some fancy special rules to make up for the lack of shooting. +1 attacks ain't gonna cut it.

Choice of attack will be nice, but a discount would be better, I agree.

I wonder how much they're going to try and extract from the feckless for a Citadel™ Spooge tool..

From the same source

Love the double guns.

Yeah, the gun knight looks awesome!!!!

2 Battlecannon shots, 6 Heavy Stubber Shots, 12 Gatling Cannon shots, Heavy Flamer, and then 2 TL-anti air/skimmer shots. I like it.

fething ace, we're not just getting two new masks, but a new tilting shield design and icon for on top of the carapace.

Bravo GW, bravo. Another winner I think.

Also, some of the Knights have transfers from the now discontinued transfer sheet. Please be back in stock. Please...

I did not spot the half Ad Mech half proper skull face plate. That is exceptional.

Also little extras like the Ad Mech symbols rather than Imperial Eagles just below the shoulder plate (visible on the double gun Knight).

That Gatling Cannon is pretty nice. All that Ap3 for wrecking the new Eldar jetbikes.

rollawaythestone wrote:
That Gatling Cannon is pretty nice. All that Ap3 for wrecking the new Eldar jetbikes.

Especially if you paint them with a phosphor weapon first.

GW stopped putting direct-only items on the WDW preorder list. The Shining Spears werent there as well so maybe the transfer decal sheet will be re-released and web-only again.

I could also see an updated Heraldry book, as the old one was direct-only and was recently marked Sold-Out so maybe they replace it with a new book which is not on the WDW list.

 Fayric wrote:
The hurling concept is stolen from Warmachine colossals/gargantuans, right?
Heck, the whole "huge model syndrome" is.
Not that Im complaining Awesome models!

Nah, the Imperial and Eldar Knights go all the way back to Epic. Now... the impetus to make them might have been inspired by the popularity of colossals in WM... but the concept goes way back in 40k history.

Yes, it is from 1989

 Fayric wrote:
The hurling concept is stolen from Warmachine colossals/gargantuans, right?
Heck, the whole "huge model syndrome" is.
Not that Im complaining Awesome models!

Not really, if I remember right, Orks have had weaponry that did much the same thing since 2nd edition and Epic(appropriately called Lifta-Droppa). Also, "huge model syndrome" should probably be blamed on Forge World as far as 40K is concerned, they were doing titans and super heavies for 40K (based on Epic scale vehicles) long before Warmahordes released their colossals. Heck, I think the plastic Stompa and Baneblade were also released prior to the colossals as well. If you really wanted to reach waaay back, ArmourCast did the first titans for 2nd edition 40K, even released a nifty Ork Gargant.

 Fayric wrote:
The hurling concept is stolen from Warmachine colossals/gargantuans, right?
Heck, the whole "huge model syndrome" is.
Not that Im complaining Awesome models!

The rule existed in the 40K universe long before PP existed. The Ork Great Gargant Lifta-Droppa arm could do the same, even with superheavies.

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 warboss wrote:
The throwing rule is a nice idea but a bit flawed in the execution.

That's what happens when you pilfer the rules from the other game all the cool kids are playing...

 Grimtuff wrote:

 warboss wrote:
The throwing rule is a nice idea but a bit flawed in the execution.

That's what happens when you pilfer the rules from the other game all the cool kids are playing...

Wait, all the cool kids are playing Epic 40K???? Dangit, and scrapped all my old epic stuff years ago....

Quite frankly, it baffles me that these knights weren't all released at the same time as the Errant and Paladin, so that, oh, I don't know, people could have a complete codex that doesn't miss out half the units.

 ClassicCarraway wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

 warboss wrote:
The throwing rule is a nice idea but a bit flawed in the execution.

That's what happens when you pilfer the rules from the other game all the cool kids are playing...

Wait, all the cool kids are playing Epic 40K???? Dangit, and scrapped all my old epic stuff years ago....

Deny it all you want, even though the Lifta Droppa/Klawstompa had a similar rule (which was executed completely differently) in 40k APOC. This is blatantly a throw ported in from WarmaHordes, specifically the "Grab and Smash" chain attack.