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 Jambles wrote:
The new tanks look... hmm. I don't know what I was expecting.

So the implication is that this is the only thing we're getting for Space Marines? No new codex or whatevs?

I think it is likely independent from any possible Codex release. This is more like the exclusive Captains they had when they did a new webstore. It's a "promote-the-store"-release.

They will be available to buy this weekend, while on the "main-release-front", we're still in the middle of Cult Mechanicus.

 Thud wrote:
Games Workshop is a strange company.

"Let's make some new products, but make it effectively impossible for almost all of our customers to purchase it even if they wanted to! It's genius! Our revenues will skyrocket!"

No gak. One of the most popular things I see going at Adepticon and GenCon at the FW booth is the Horus Heresy t-shirts, mugs, and gak. Why the feth don't they put them on the website.

I want to give you money for that over-priced t-shirt. I want one to wear. Sell me the damn thing on your website.

As for these, that's a little too much bling for me. The rhino door and side decorations are excellent. But the gak on top is a little much.

I'd bet the command rhino would make excellent SOB conversion fodder.

 Gitsplitta wrote:
I'd bet the command rhino would make excellent SOB conversion fodder.

Insufficient bling.

So, grav raiders, and is that a mini void shield generator?
It would be nice to have a void shield rhino squadron.
Wonder if you have to visit Warhammer world to get the rules as well?

Wait, there are rules for that? mini void shields for a Rhino or LR? Forget what I said earlier.

Pimp my ride, daddio!

Well, they have to make rules, there is currently no option for twin-linked plasma gun on a Rhino, nor a Grav Cannon on a Land Raider that I know of.

I think the models look very cool and fitting for command tanks.
I wonder if the guy sticking out of the Land Raider is a Tank Commander and we will get an all-armoured formation.

 kronk wrote:
No gak. One of the most popular things I see going at Adepticon and GenCon at the FW booth is the Horus Heresy t-shirts, mugs, and gak. Why the feth don't they put them on the website.

I want to give you money for that over-priced t-shirt. I want one to wear. Sell me the damn thing on your website.

Raw theory here, but they may keep people going to their Games Days or whatever. If they would sell these permanently, you could just grab it anytime you want one, so they would need some way to lure people in to their events. That means either revealing something far in advance or offering discounts, both of which seems to be at odds with their doctrine.

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Well, they have to make rules, there is currently no option for twin-linked plasma gun on a Rhino, nor a Grav Cannon on a Land Raider that I know of.

I think the models look very cool and fitting for command tanks.
I wonder if the guy sticking out of the Land Raider is a Tank Commander and we will get an all-armoured formation.

For all we know you get the rules for these tanks in their respective boxes - let's not go mental with idle speculation for the as yet unconfirmed codex

Give it three months time, command tanks for everyone!

I fully expect these to go into wide release when the new SM codex drops.

I'm not sure how I would feel if I were a Space Marine player having shelled out $60 (or more for a limited edition) to see my purchase invalidated in just over a year.

WOW. I love them!!!!

 Quarterdime wrote:
I'm not sure how I would feel if I were a Space Marine player having shelled out $60 (or more for a limited edition) to see my purchase invalidated in just over a year.

It's been longer than a year, man. Space Marines came out like... August 2013? would make it almost 2 years. Anyone who bought a LE should be price insensitive

I'm super excited!!

 Talys wrote:
WOW. I love them!!!!

 Quarterdime wrote:
I'm not sure how I would feel if I were a Space Marine player having shelled out $60 (or more for a limited edition) to see my purchase invalidated in just over a year.

It's been longer than a year, man. Space Marines came out like... August 2013? would make it almost 2 years. Anyone who bought a LE should be price insensitive

I'm super excited!!

I know, right??!! They should consider themselves lucky to get a year and a half's use out of a $50 book that previously would have lasted 3-5 years! Duh! It's like GW delivered a late christmas present by allowing them the pleasure of buying a book unexpectedly early.

Games Workshop is a strange company.
"Let's make some new products, but make it effectively impossible for almost all of our customers to purchase it even if they wanted to! It's genius! Our revenues will skyrocket!"

No gak. One of the most popular things I see going at Adepticon and GenCon at the FW booth is the Horus Heresy t-shirts, mugs, and gak. Why the feth don't they put them on the website.

I want to give you money for that over-priced t-shirt. I want one to wear. Sell me the damn thing on your website.

Yep same with all the little things they randomly put in packages - ohh look 40K Ork Christmas Cards - yeah I'd buy more but sadly you can't - they do seem to actively avoid the more obvious ways to make money....

I have my Land Raider Paint scheme ready...

I have been looking for an excuse to by a new Land Raider and some Rhinos. I got to get me those Plasma-Guns.

If the Land Raider is an HQ, this would make a great Allie for Grey Knights.
HQ: Land Raider Excelsior [Piloted by Stan of course]
Troop: Sniper Scouts
FA: Drop Pod [for Purifiers]
Heavy: Centurions

I wonder if the Razorback can take the Grav-Cannon...

I guess I'll have something to "counts as" for my damocles command rhino conversion now.

Im modeling Stan Lee on mine

Oh lord i want all of that right now. (little less smurfs though please)

I emailed GW's Warhammer World Events address (the one on the newsletter) to tell them that I like the tanks, but live in the US and have no intention of arranging international travel to buy a model. I asked what the availability will be for the overwhelming majority of their customer base who can't realistically make a trip to Warhammer World.

I'm CERTAIN (no sarcasm at all) that I'll get a timely and friendly response. If I do, I'll post it here.

Both models are a mess. The bling is nice, the random haphazard stuff on top much less so. And the dude on the LR is totally doing "DRIVE ME CLOSER I WANT TO HIT THEM WITH MY MACE" thing.

Exclusivity is also stupid. I for see these getting bought up, chopped up and sold off on eBay for stupid amounts of cash money.

Those tanks look awful. I feel better now. So does my wallet.

 Olgerth Istaarn wrote:
Both models are a mess. The bling is nice, the random haphazard stuff on top much less so. And the dude on the LR is totally doing "DRIVE ME CLOSER I WANT TO HIT THEM WITH MY MACE" thing.

He's actually not.


If you look, he seems to be more holding a baton rather than a mace--and it's not hard to envision that tank at the front of a spearhead of Land Raiders just waiting for him to lower his baton and unleash a metric buttload of lascannon fire.

No! It's an Aspergillum and he's blessing the tank with the tears of a 1000 dead Ork babies.

What is the weapon in the front turret beside the target sensor thingie where the twin heavy bolter would normally be?

 warboss wrote:

I know, right??!! They should consider themselves lucky to get a year and a half's use out of a $50 book that previously would have lasted 3-5 years! Duh! It's like GW delivered a late christmas present by allowing them the pleasure of buying a book unexpectedly early.

Depends on how you look at it, man. Do you want to wait 1 year, 3 years, or 5 years for the next Halo? It's not what you pay: it's what you get out of it.

If you feel the new book is just a regurgitation of the last one, then yeah, what a bloody waste of money. On the other hand, if you feel the new book adds new content and/or has exciting changes, then, "SWEET!" the only question is, how much use you got out of the previous book. If you play twice a month for 5 hours a stretch -- so 120 hours per year, and got 2 years out of a book, that would be 240 hours. Add 20 hours of listbuilding to that, and make it 260 hours. Plus, you'd get some usage out of pictures and such for painting/modelling purposes, but let's skip that. So, if you spent $60 for 260 hours, that would be about $0.23 / hour of using the book. Considering that I probably need 3 books to play, just call it $0.75 / hour for rules. Of course, you have to add in models and such, but that's a whole different equation.

That isn't bad, though, since I pay $10 per hour just for a ticket to watch a movie -- more like $25 / hour if you throw in food and such -- and arguably, I'd rather play 40k than 90% of the movies I go see

Or, if I take muh lady out, it's probably going to be orders of magnitude more. Of course, I could bring her to play 40k, and that would kill two birds with one stone

On the Land Raider? It's a gravcannon and amp, like what the Centurions have.

 warboss wrote:
What is the weapon in the front turret beside the target sensor thingie where the twin heavy bolter would normally be?

Looks to be a grav cannon w/amp

Oh Space Marines, what have they done to you? Keep piling on the extra rubbish. Sorry, "detail"...