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 natpri771 wrote:
The release will be officially announced on May 30th, giving us time to pre-order for a June release

GW is definitely benefiting from that Dawn of War licensing.

Yup, and they've been reusing the space marine game music like madmen for years. It works, is cool, and is free for them so why not?

It makes me sad hearing that music on every single teaser as there will never be a sequel to that awesome, awesome game...

 Commander Cain wrote:
It makes me sad hearing that music on every single teaser as there will never be a sequel to that awesome, awesome game...

Wasn't the legal stuff picked up by another major publisher?

I am really curious now as to what bits come with the assault marines The prices, too.

Does anyone have the latest White Dwarf yet? They should be out already. If not, I'll try to run out at lunch and grab one

So no upgrade spur for Imperial fists? :( well thats a bummer

But it looks like the assault marines get a neat two handed chainsword which could be cool.

 Desubot wrote:
So no upgrade spur for Imperial fists? :( well thats a bummer

But it looks like the assault marines get a neat two handed chainsword which could be cool.

I really like the look of 2H melee weapons (like thunderhammers) but I'm not a big fan of modelling them. More crossed arns... I just try to avoid They are like a trip to the dentist.

I kind of see terminators and assault marines as a treat, because you can put the whole thing together (minus jetpacks and heads) before painting

Evidently, the SW/BA upgrade sprues are confirmed as redirects now (though not week 1 releases). I sure wonder what's in there, too. They better be something other than shoulder pads and heads, or if they are, they had better be epic shoulder pads and heads, LOL.

I'm intrigued about the two handed chainsword. I've a Vanguard Vet modelled with one and have always thought that marines should have access to Eviscerators and Heavy Chainswords (Only Gabriel Seth uses one in 40k, really?). I'll be pretty annoyed if marines get them and BA don't to be honest as it'd be fluffier for BA.

Not overly fussed about the upgrade sprues. Spellcrow and Kromlech have some good Sallies stuff, FW has stuff for other first founding chapters, more and more all the time. DA, BA and SW all have ample bits. If these new ones are good (DA ones look ok, but nothing worth springing for so far) and substantially different from the existing ones then they might be worth picking up.

Like the striding poses on the Assault Squad as I've longed for Space Marine legs that are neither running nor stationary for a while.Wouldn't be using them on assault marines, though.

 sockwithaticket wrote:
I'm intrigued about the two handed chainsword. I've a Vanguard Vet modelled with one and have always thought that marines should have access to Eviscerators and Heavy Chainswords (Only Gabriel Seth uses one in 40k, really?). I'll be pretty annoyed if marines get them and BA don't to be honest as it'd be fluffier for BA.

Yeah, it would be annoying if SM got assault weapons that BA don't have access to, but I guess that's "inevitable" with SM codex coming half a year after BA. As a big Blood Angels fan, I demand that BA get a new codex NOW!!! RAWR. It's been too long! LOL.

In other random thoughts... will Space Marines get dice? Did Eldar get dice? I don't think so, right? I'm kind of kicking myself for not getting the Harlequin ones -- a friend has a set, and they're pretty nifty. They seem such hit and miss. For instance, I have Skaven -- which are awesome -- and Blood Angels, which are just boring red dice.

 Talys wrote:
I am really curious now as to what bits come with the assault marines The prices, too.

Does anyone have the latest White Dwarf yet? They should be out already. If not, I'll try to run out at lunch and grab one

Assuming he's got his delivery, I'll check in with my FLGS tomorrow and post some pics if someone hasn't beaten me to it already.

via Tagriel @ Faeit 212
Looking at the new white dwarf issue 70 and I can confirm ultra marines upgrades blood angel upgrades space wolf upgrades and dark angels upgrades also space marine assault squad corax white spray (white undercoat spray) ultramarines transfer sheet, blood angels transfer sheet and dark angels transfer sheet these are huge color transfer sheets with banners and icons over 700 transfers on one sheet.

Take it with the usual dose of salt.

If there is a DA transfer sheet of doom, I'll be all over it!

 Desubot wrote:
So no upgrade spur for Imperial fists? :( well thats a bummer

But it looks like the assault marines get a neat two handed chainsword which could be cool.

It's unlikely that we'll see any other upgrade sprues than perhaps the Black Templars.

It makes more business sense for GW to focus on a handful of Chapters, than to do a large number of them. It's why they've always focused on the Big Four (BA, DA, SW, UM) in their marketing efforts, and left the other chapters to the fluffy players.

Show us that black carapace, son! By the way, should it not be… black, or something?

It's supposed to be implanted under the skin.

 sockwithaticket wrote:
I'm intrigued about the two handed chainsword. I've a Vanguard Vet modelled with one and have always thought that marines should have access to Eviscerators and Heavy Chainswords (Only Gabriel Seth uses one in 40k, really?).

Pretty sure everyone else has an eviscerator, regular CCW, or a few unique items.

edit: when talking about oversized chainswords, of course

Here we go...

Very disappointing to read that blurb about the Dark Angels Upgrade Kit.

I'm a fan of variety so I won't fuss when other armies are treated better - after all, BA, SW, & UM Players probably do make up the bulk of SM players - but honestly they don't really need their own Tactical box sets... that's just insulting when DA are the only ones whose models look different enough to actually require a different model. I don't need more heads. Or Shoulders. Or Icons... What i need is Tactical Marines in friggin' robes. The DA Tax is just OTT expensive.

And WTF is up with the feathered Khorne helmets? I know the DA take the 'angels' thing more literally than other chapters but... for real? Those wings look terrible? Very tacky.

As it stands, a squad of DA Marines costs $35 for the 10 man box, $66 more USD for the two boxes of Veterans so that I can use their robes. Anyone else paying $100 USD per tac squad? didn't think so...

It's even worse for ASM. I have to buy the ASM, then the Vets for just 5 guys. I take it one step further and buy the Sanguinary Guard and use their winged jump packs as well - if I'm investing that much into 5 dudes I may as well go all in.

Here's hoping (in vain likely) that the BA do in fact get at tactical box ... they genuinely need it more than any other chapter.

I'm just confused about the SW upgrade kit. I mean, don't they already have enough chapter specific models? They don't need to upgrade Tacticals, Devestators, Assault Marines, Scouts - the SW versions of those already have their own kits. I guess it's for HQs and bikes? It just feels so wasted.

 En Excelsis wrote:
Very disappointing to read that blurb about the Dark Angels Upgrade Kit.

I'm a fan of variety so I won't fuss when other armies are treated better - after all, BA, SW, & UM Players probably do make up the bulk of SM players - but honestly they don't really need their own Tactical box sets... that's just insulting when DA are the only ones whose models look different enough to actually require a different model. I don't need more heads. Or Shoulders. Or Icons... What i need is Tactical Marines in friggin' robes. The DA Tax is just OTT expensive.

And WTF is up with the feathered Khorne helmets? I know the DA take the 'angels' thing more literally than other chapters but... for real? Those wings look terrible? Very tacky.

As it stands, a squad of DA Marines costs $35 for the 10 man box, $66 more USD for the two boxes of Veterans so that I can use their robes. Anyone else paying $100 USD per tac squad? didn't think so...

It's even worse for ASM. I have to buy the ASM, then the Vets for just 5 guys. I take it one step further and buy the Sanguinary Guard and use their winged jump packs as well - if I'm investing that much into 5 dudes I may as well go all in.

Here's hoping (in vain likely) that the BA do in fact get at tactical box ... they genuinely need it more than any other chapter.

The feathered wings on the helmet date back to some of the earlier metal Captain models for DA. I know my brother picked up one of those models back in the late 90s. I agree that it looks a bit absurd but it is established DA lore.

The Space Wovles dont have their own unique Assault Mariens or Devastators. It is the basic current vanilla marine Devastators and Assault Marines, With a sprue taken from the Grey Hunter box stuffed in with them.

I'm guessing no updated rules??

Requizen wrote:
I'm just confused about the SW upgrade kit. I mean, don't they already have enough chapter specific models? They don't need to upgrade Tacticals, Devestators, Assault Marines, Scouts - the SW versions of those already have their own kits. I guess it's for HQs and bikes? It just feels so wasted.

On a guess it's to replace the current space wolves upgrade sprue, and probably to replace the two sets of shoulder pads they have. There is also no space wolves scout box, just spare pieces from the space wolves pack box to use to convert standard scouts into wolf scouts. And as previously said the long fang and sky claw packs are just the standard marine kits, with a space wolves sprue. Essentially we have one kit, that is used to turn the standard marines kits into space wolves kits, and in some cases GW has been kind enough to stick a quarter of this kit into another kit

Merellin wrote:
The Space Wovles dont have their own unique Assault Mariens or Devastators. It is the basic current vanilla marine Devastators and Assault Marines, With a sprue taken from the Grey Hunter box stuffed in with them.

So? It amounts to the same thing. They don't particularly need the upgrade sprue since they have infantry boxes with SW stuff inside. Raven Guard, Salamanders, Iron Hands, Imperial Fists, etc could all use them more, imo.

Would have liked to see the Assault Marine sprues. Aside from the two-handed chainsword and the new hairstyle there isn't anything different I've been able to notice.

And yes, other chapters could definitely use upgrade sprues more than some of the ones we're getting.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

Show us that black carapace, son! By the way, should it not be… black, or something?

It's supposed to be implanted under the skin.

Yeah, but if you were to put something black between the skin and the flesh, should people still look pink like that? I am pretty sure marines should look like either natural black people or unnatural black people.
I would totally forgive GW if the next artwork of a nekkid space marine has him in a b&b pose, I might forgive them. Or Sisters plastic models.

 En Excelsis wrote:
I'm a fan of variety so I won't fuss when other armies are treated better - after all, BA, SW, & UM Players probably do make up the bulk of SM players - but honestly they don't really need their own Tactical box sets... that's just insulting

Marine player .

I suspect that is the assault marine sergeant in different configurations.

Do you know what bothers me the most?

If that guy lives long enough to be a veteran he would have to learn to shoot with his left hand...

But on the pro side, we now have the bits for a dual weild of thunder hammers.

Notice the larger bases on the Assault Marines?


And....seriously...what's up with that huge head on the bottom ASM....the one with the flattop and service studs.

I'd rather stick the Ogryn head from Goonies on a marine than use that one.

41 dollars for the ASM?????? what's with the 1 dollar increase???? ( compared to other 40 dollar boxes)

General Hobbs wrote:



Notice the larger bases on the Assault Marines?


And....seriously...what's up with that huge head on the bottom ASM....the one with the flattop and service studs.

I'd rather stick the Ogryn head from Goonies on a marine than use that one.

Welcome to several releases ago.

All marines whenever they can will be on 30mms

They just look better on them to be frank,.

Lol this first week release is awfully dull

Love that the Blood Angels upgrade sprue comes with a blood chalice. Very useful.

I could certainly see a market for a full set of those snarling wolf heads, to recreate the old power-armored model. Would be great for a unit of Chaos Chosen in an army representing turned Space Wolves.