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The dev rumors sound wish-listy as hell, but then, so did scatter-bikes...

Free heavy bolters sounds totally fair though. From a purely intuitive PoV, I never understood the design decision to allow devastators armed with just bolters to exist.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
The dev rumors sound wish-listy as hell, but then, so did scatter-bikes...

Free heavy bolters sounds totally fair though. From a purely intuitive PoV, I never understood the design decision to allow devastators armed with just bolters to exist.

Yea honestly I can't recall a single codex leak I've read in these forums being false since 7th edition. All bets are off.

General Hobbs wrote:

 RedFox wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:


AS a Raven Guard player, I am disappointed in the lack of MKVI options that were promised.

Have I whined lately about how much I wish the heresy marines in plastic rumor had been true?

I'm hoping the devs have some great options......

no mkvi were ever promised...

you should just pick-up forgeworld raven guard stuff

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/The_Horus_Heresy/Legiones_Astartes/RAVEN_GUARD

One of the rumors was that there would be a majority of MKVI armors on the sprues.

I have some of the FW ones. I like variety and the plain ones let me green stuff feathers etc.

remember to always disregard steve the warboss rumors next time

and forgeworld needs to make a corax sculpt !

via Games Workshop Webstore
This bundle gives you everything necessary to field the 1st Company Task Force formation from Codex: Space Marines, with two Terminator Squads, one Terminator Close Combat Squad, two sets of Sternguard Veterans and two sets of Vanguard veterans - thirty-five miniatures in total.

So first formation confirmed. Though no rules yet...

 Timotheus wrote:

via Games Workshop Webstore
This bundle gives you everything necessary to field the 1st Company Task Force formation from Codex: Space Marines, with two Terminator Squads, one Terminator Close Combat Squad, two sets of Sternguard Veterans and two sets of Vanguard veterans - thirty-five miniatures in total.

So first formation confirmed. Though no rules yet...

Well that's cool. Finally a First Company force for someone beside the DA!

 SickSix wrote:

 Timotheus wrote:

via Games Workshop Webstore
This bundle gives you everything necessary to field the 1st Company Task Force formation from Codex: Space Marines, with two Terminator Squads, one Terminator Close Combat Squad, two sets of Sternguard Veterans and two sets of Vanguard veterans - thirty-five miniatures in total.

So first formation confirmed. Though no rules yet...

Well that's cool. Finally a First Company force for someone beside the DA!

Other than the Formations and entire Detachment option that Blood Angels have? And other than Strike Force Ultra that gives an all Terminator Force? And I'm sure it will get just as much use. But they are fun on a Zone Mortalis board with some custom restrictions on units.

Oh look! Another kit with only one Lightning Claw.

Geeze, these assault marines come with a hefty price rise. I believe it used to be $41AUD for 5 models (that's what the SW Skyclaws are currently) and now it's $70AUD for 5.

A 70% price rise per model

Yeah I dunno why each Assault Marine is worth $14, but I'm pretty sure they aren't.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah I dunno why each Assault Marine is worth $14, but I'm pretty sure they aren't.

You think you Australians have it bad. According to exchange rates, it should cost $75NZD, instead it costs $83NZD up from $64NZD.

WindsOfFury wrote:
So with the sprue leaked over at Bolter & Chainsword

I like them, a good update.

But for a moment, let's see how wrong first rumors from Mr. Warboss was.

Assault Marine Box
-5 Miniatures - Correct.
-Hands and Arms seperate like Tactical Marine Box - Wrong.
-5x Bolt pistols & Chainswords - Correct.
-2x Plasma and Grav Pistols - Wrong.
-Same CCW like Tactical Marine Box - Chainsword? Correct?
-Many Head and Breastplate options - Yeah, correct in some way.
-Most Bitz are Mk6 - 2/5, so no.
-no Power Axe - Wrong.
-no Shield - Wrong.
-no special Weapons - Wrong, there are flamers (finally)

Thanks for saving me some work Monday!

Looked at the new price for assault marines. Died. Wow, how can GW keep charging these ridicules prices in Australia?

I wonder if codex space marines are going to get eviscerators now as a war gear option. Obviously the assault sergeant will be able to buy one, at least.

I'm not seeing anything on that sprue that screams "need".

Sire122 wrote:
Looked at the new price for assault marines. Died. Wow, how can GW keep charging these ridicules prices in Australia?

Do we know what the US and UK prices are? This is not just a case of "keep charging", they've raised it massively. I wonder if the US and UK have had similar massive price hikes.

I also wonder if they'll drop the current Skyclaw box with the idea of people buying the Assault Marine box + SW upgrade sprue.

Interested in seeing what kind of rules and detachments show up. Tax marines getting OS base would be huge. It would be cool if assault could contest OS but not claim as OS.

All in all very excited to see what comes down the pipe line. Interesting to see how chapter tactics will interact with detachment rules and the like.

Looking closely at the bit sprues you can definitely see that they could be used to make a bunch of the fine cast characters.

Telion, sicarius, Ragnar, ulrik, Dante, sang priest(corbulo), azrael, cypher,.

Sure there are more but that is in the first pass.

Sprue pics





Pretty nice kit overall

But the vangaurd kit is cheaper and comes with more weapons? I dont get it

Upgrade sprues

That Space Wolf head is exactly what superhuman space vikings should look like. Puts most of the existing heads with their bizarre, 1980's post-apocalyptic hair to shame. That whole upgrade pack, is clearly the best of the 4.

The BA one is cool, though there's a couple of bits I could really have done without (the bare head and right hand torso immediately spring to mind). The way the Iron halo is attached to the MK. VII helm is dumb, really dumb and I wish that the Iron halo sat atop a chalice came separate from it so you'd have two cool icons rather than one awkward looking one. The winged skull icon , though, looks like an awesome bit and I want hundreds of it. A few of the pads are really, really well designed.

Ultras are decent, a few slight missteps on pad design and the torso's underwhelming. Otherwise solid stuff.

Dark Angels stuff is pretty good apart from that stupid feather head. I'm not sold on the look of the plasma pistol either.


As it's confirmed that Vanilla Marines now have access to Eviscerators (at least for assault marine sergeants) I feel the Black Rage falling upon me as Blood Angels, for whom it would have been far fluffier, do not get it. I'd hope for an FAQ to remedy this, but then remembered it's GW we're talking about. Pose-able legs on the assault marines is interesting, but I think it remains to be seen just how poseable they are (ie how many sensible, realistic poses can you get our of them. Quite disappointed that the pistols and chainswords are attached to arms, would happily have forgone the regular torsos and back packs in order to create the sprue room to have them separate.

That's weird - in New Zealand the Assault Marines are more expensive than the Vanguard Veterans, $83 vs $75, but in the Netherlands the reverse is true, €33 vs €35. And in the UK they're both £25. Way to price consistently.

 Wilson wrote:
But the vangaurd kit is cheaper and comes with more weapons? I dont get it

Vanguards come only with jump pack bodies. ASM give you two sets of torsos, plus 2 sets of backpacks.

With extra legs, you can come away with 10 marines instead of 5. Legs are cheap to get on the net.

 Talys wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
That is a very nice kit for assault squads. Kinda too bad I don't need any more ASM any time soon. Hopefully the Dev kit will be just as full of options.

I need more ASM like I need more tacticals or a root canal :( I think all together, I have 7 or 8 Death Company sets (4 of them from Deathstorm) and a few Sanguinary Guard. But, I'm getting 2 boxes, and trading for 10 more leg pairs, lol. It was those posable legs that got me :X

The last assault marines I painted was maybe10 years ago, though, so I guess it's time to do up some new ones

Are the legs actually poseable? I'm pretty sure they're one pose, just in two parts. Looks like they pair up as opposed to being interchangeable.

I actually really like the upgrade sprues now I've seen the parts better, but BA, SW and even DA didn't really need them, I'd rather have seen RG, IH, WS etc.

Seeing that ultramarine upgrade pack, I find the desire to buy 5 or so growing. You know, just in case I need more sergeant heads. Or power swords. Or the convenience of having 10 shoulder pads with chapter symbol on it.

General Hobbs wrote:

 Wilson wrote:
But the vangaurd kit is cheaper and comes with more weapons? I dont get it

Vanguards come only with jump pack bodies. ASM give you two sets of torsos, plus 2 sets of backpacks.

With extra legs, you can come away with 10 marines instead of 5. Legs are cheap to get on the net.

Are there enough weapons to make 10 marines? All the special weapons will be for the sergeant only (the power weapons and that). And legs are a pain to get because they're always the limiting factor in SM boxes, so they're often out of stock on bits sites. So again, you're paying more money for loads of bits that you can't actually use without buying either another kit, or legs off a bits seller if you can find them in stock.

 Crazyterran wrote:
. Or the convenience of having 10 shoulder pads with chapter symbol on it.

Forgeworld escaped your notice?

 sockwithaticket wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
. Or the convenience of having 10 shoulder pads with chapter symbol on it.

Forgeworld escaped your notice?

The upgrade sprue is cheaper than 10 shoulder pads from FW and you get more bits too, in fairness.

Devastator squad is gone from GW webstore on US, UK, Au and SWE. Getting 404 errors.

Hope they don't f*** it up, I really like all the weapons you get. But seeing the Assault Marine, the theme isn't really cutback but adding stuff I'm hopeful.

 sockwithaticket wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
. Or the convenience of having 10 shoulder pads with chapter symbol on it.

Forgeworld escaped your notice?

Jolly ol Britain costs about double to buy directly from, and I'd only ever feel the urge to pick up the forge world pads if I ever decide to commit to making a legion era force.

Would have been more smarmy to point at the fine cast ultramarine pads that gw used to make. Nice try, though. Better luck next time.

Also, these pads are better looking than the plain legion ones, the ultramarines symbol looks better on these plastic ones, and have more decorations. More characterful overall, as well. And they come with three helmets, a chest plate, and two swords.

 sockwithaticket wrote:
That Space Wolf head is exactly what superhuman space vikings should look like.

A Viking with no beard?! HERESY!!