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I wonder how much recycled art and miniatures will be used...

JuniorRS13 wrote:

Spoiler:

This two-hundred page, full-colour hardback book contains:

The epic story of the Space Marines, their innumerable conflicts and the revered Codex Astartes that guides them;

Colour schemes and iconography used by the Space Marines’ various chapters, with expertly-painted examples;

A comprehensive army list that allows you to turn your Space Marines collection into a formidable force ready to deploy in games of Warhammer 40,000;

Tactical Objectives, the Gladius Strike Force detachment, twelve formations plus Warlord Traits, Chapter Relics and Chapter tactics.

Seems as though from the description of the regular codex that the various chapters may be getting relics.

You mean the slow, dawning horror that the chances of them removing the shield eternal is increasing?

 Crazyterran wrote:


You mean the slow, dawning horror that the chances of them removing the shield eternal is increasing?

... and Xenos armies everywhere breathed a sigh of relief.

 Kanluwen wrote:

And Dark Angels would have liked to have their two previous books at the level Blood Angels were at.

It's your turn to sit back and enjoy the paintrain running at you.

Unlike Chaos and SOB players would have you believe, there is no contest to see who GW screwed over most. There also is no musical chairs game where someone absolutely has to take their turn bending over either.

rollawaythestone wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:


You mean the slow, dawning horror that the chances of them removing the shield eternal is increasing?

... and Xenos armies everywhere breathed a sigh of relief.

Yeah, heaven forbid you be able to have a durable HQ, right?

JuniorRS13 wrote:

Spoiler:

This two-hundred page, full-colour hardback book contains:

The epic story of the Space Marines, their innumerable conflicts and the revered Codex Astartes that guides them;

Colour schemes and iconography used by the Space Marines’ various chapters, with expertly-painted examples;

A comprehensive army list that allows you to turn your Space Marines collection into a formidable force ready to deploy in games of Warhammer 40,000;

Tactical Objectives, the Gladius Strike Force detachment, twelve formations plus Warlord Traits, Chapter Relics and Chapter tactics.

Seems as though from the description of the regular codex that the various chapters may be getting relics.

Chapter relics sounds like a fancy name for relics. Every time they've tried doing specific chapter only relics someone gets screwed over and the bitching is loud and frequent.....not that that will stop them from making the same mistake all over again of course.

 Carnage43 wrote:

JuniorRS13 wrote:

Spoiler:

This two-hundred page, full-colour hardback book contains:

The epic story of the Space Marines, their innumerable conflicts and the revered Codex Astartes that guides them;

Colour schemes and iconography used by the Space Marines’ various chapters, with expertly-painted examples;

A comprehensive army list that allows you to turn your Space Marines collection into a formidable force ready to deploy in games of Warhammer 40,000;

Tactical Objectives, the Gladius Strike Force detachment, twelve formations plus Warlord Traits, Chapter Relics and Chapter tactics.

Seems as though from the description of the regular codex that the various chapters may be getting relics.

The only reason I found that significant was because it was next to the chapter tactics and we know those are different.

Chapter relics sounds like a fancy name for relics. Every time they've tried doing specific chapter only relics someone gets screwed over and the bitching is loud and frequent.....not that that will stop them from making the same mistake all over again of course.

I really thought the Devs would be AUD$70 a box like the Assault Marines. Nope. AUD$7-fething-8 a box.

Unbelievable...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I really thought the Devs would be AUD$70 a box like the Assault Marines. Nope. AUD$7-fething-8 a box.

Unbelievable...

I am considering buying Maxmini jetpacks and a Tactical squad instead of the new assaults, and sorta doing the same for Devs with bit companies.

I wonder if that will be cheaper in the long run. I feel for you Aussies.

At least with the Assault Marine kit, you could buy a set of legs from Anvil Industries and basically have all the parts you need for 5 more Tac Marines.

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
At least with the Assault Marine kit, you could buy a set of legs from Anvil Industries and basically have all the parts you need for 5 more Tac Marines.

I have 5 running legs and 5 packs already just laying around. I figure a tac box could be halved. Run a 5 man tac squad to fill the mandatory troop slot, the other 5 being used as Assault marines.

I think I would only have to buy some bolt pistols, I can make axes and swords from plasticard and forged paperclips. I don't know if this is cheaper though honestly.

Hey look, a Forge World Devastator Squad is cheaper (not including postage) in Australia and gives you 5 of the heavy weapon of your choice. Unfortunately there's no Grav Cannons.

Even the Assault Squad from FW is cheaper by ~$2, though it lacks some of the options (all of which except for the Eviscerator is probably in your bitz box anyway)

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Hey look, a Forge World Devastator Squad is cheaper (not including postage) in Australia and gives you 5 of the heavy weapon of your choice. Unfortunately there's no Grav Cannons.

Even the Assault Squad from FW is cheaper by ~$2, though it lacks some of the options (all of which except for the Eviscerator is probably in your bitz box anyway)

Lol, that is funny.

Seriously, GW should just cut Australian distribution and ship from the uk at uk prices to local stores and customers. I am pretty sure Australians would take a slower delivery by a few days over 40% price difference or whatever it comes to.

Despite the huge price increase I have a feeling Australian fans mostly have ways to save over gw prices. I can't imagine the median income over there supporting these prices. And why in gods sweet name do they pay more for steam games????? Does it somehow cost steam more to electronically send a game over there than say america?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I really thought the Devs would be AUD$70 a box like the Assault Marines. Nope. AUD$7-fething-8 a box.

Unbelievable...

Then you weren't paying attention, the leaked Euro pics showed the Devs being more expensive than AM's in Europe, so it's natural they'd also be more expensive in Oz.


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 Orock wrote:
Despite the huge price increase I have a feeling Australian fans mostly have ways to save over gw prices. I can't imagine the median income over there supporting these prices. And why in gods sweet name do they pay more for steam games????? Does it somehow cost steam more to electronically send a game over there than say america?

The inflated Steam prices relate to contracts with brick and mortar stores over here. If brick and mortar game stores died in Australia, it'd be the best thing to happen to PC gaming, they stock barely any PC games anyway and only serve to inflate our prices.

rollawaythestone wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:


You mean the slow, dawning horror that the chances of them removing the shield eternal is increasing?

... and Xenos armies everywhere breathed a sigh of relief.

Because xenos armies have it so bad, right? Heaven forbid the army that actually has to pay for durability is capable of being durable in 7th.

 Crazyterran wrote:

rollawaythestone wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:


You mean the slow, dawning horror that the chances of them removing the shield eternal is increasing?

... and Xenos armies everywhere breathed a sigh of relief.

Because xenos armies have it so bad, right? Heaven forbid the army that actually has to pay for durability is capable of being durable in 7th.

Yeah, the two Eldar and Necron players I often game with physically gak themselves when I whip out my 3 wound immune to ID model. Well, until their turn of course, when they quickly hose the fething thing down in a barrage of fire that Space Marines can only dream of.

 Talys wrote:
Seriously, GW should just cut Australian distribution and ship from the uk at uk prices to local stores and customers. I am pretty sure Australians would take a slower delivery by a few days over 40% price difference or whatever it comes to.

We used to be able to do that, but the embongo stopped us, and then when we could still order from GWUK directly they started slapping on imaginary shipping costs ($40-$70) to any order (even a single paint pot) to discourage people from ordering from GWUK (and GWUS as well).

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Then you weren't paying attention, the leaked Euro pics showed the Devs being more expensive than AM's in Europe, so it's natural they'd also be more expensive in Oz.

Well excuse me, princess. Doesn't make it any better, now does it?

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I really thought the Devs would be AUD$70 a box like the Assault Marines. Nope. AUD$7-fething-8 a box.

Unbelievable...

Then you weren't paying attention, the leaked Euro pics showed the Devs being more expensive than AM's in Europe, so it's natural they'd also be more expensive in Oz.

Are you serious?

Well, if we don't get two Special weapons, at least Tacticals can take a decent heavy weapon on the move after a pod drop.

 Wilson wrote:
Dark angels with Grav. ( sorry for pointing out the obvious- please dont kill me! )

FETHING YES!! GET IN!! lol. About time! lol.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Wilson wrote:
Dark angels with Grav. ( sorry for pointing out the obvious- please dont kill me! )

FETHING YES!! GET IN!! lol. About time! lol.

Ravenwing might be good!

Because if the rumours of Grav with amps being double the price of a lascannon on tacs is true, and both tacs and Devs buy from the heavy list...

Hopefully it's not true that grav cannons and amp are 40points! Make them awful right off the bat. 230pts for 4 Grav cannons? Without relentless or a pod? Jeez. 265pts with a pod... Might as well buy centurions.

Lets just say I doubt dark Angels are getting centurions :/

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Well, if we don't get two Special weapons, at least Tacticals can take a decent heavy weapon on the move after a pod drop.

Please pardon a filthy xenos player who is trying to see the light of the empra...

doesn't disembarking from a pod count as moving, so you can't fire the heavy weapon unless you're relentless?

 Grimdark wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Well, if we don't get two Special weapons, at least Tacticals can take a decent heavy weapon on the move after a pod drop.

Please pardon a filthy xenos player who is trying to see the light of the empra...

doesn't disembarking from a pod count as moving, so you can't fire the heavy weapon unless you're relentless?

He's talking about grav-cannons, which are salvo weapons and as such can fire on the move at normal ballistic skill

 Crazyterran wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Wilson wrote:
Dark angels with Grav. ( sorry for pointing out the obvious- please dont kill me! )

FETHING YES!! GET IN!! lol. About time! lol.

Ravenwing might be good!

Because if the rumours of Grav with amps being double the price of a lascannon on tacs is true, and both tacs and Devs buy from the heavy list...

Hopefully it's not true that grav cannons and amp are 40points! Make them awful right off the bat. 230pts for 4 Grav cannons? Without relentless or a pod? Jeez. 265pts with a pod... Might as well buy centurions.

Lets just say I doubt dark Angels are getting centurions :/

Or all heavy weapons are seeing a point adjustment in the Marine book- Imagine free Heavy Bolters, 10 point Multimeltas, 15 point Missile Launchers with Flakk included, 15 point Lascannons, 20 point Plasma Cannons, 30 point Grav.

*Not a rumor*

The digital book previews are online - currently only in the iStore (using an iDevice (or how that is called)) - I am downloading them atm

There looks to be an Ultramarine painting guide on its way, at least in the pics there is one in digital form as part of the Astartes Codex

Edit: The artwork is nice

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Talys wrote:
Seriously, GW should just cut Australian distribution and ship from the uk at uk prices to local stores and customers. I am pretty sure Australians would take a slower delivery by a few days over 40% price difference or whatever it comes to.

We used to be able to do that, but the embongo stopped us, and then when we could still order from GWUK directly they started slapping on imaginary shipping costs ($40-$70) to any order (even a single paint pot) to discourage people from ordering from GWUK (and GWUS as well).

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Then you weren't paying attention, the leaked Euro pics showed the Devs being more expensive than AM's in Europe, so it's natural they'd also be more expensive in Oz.

Well excuse me, princess. Doesn't make it any better, now does it?

Am I mistaken, or wasn't one of the people who bought the Space Marines Chapter bundle a couple years ago from Australia? The one that had over 1,000 models?

I can't imagine that person feels good about the new kits.

Some decent Ltd Edition front cover images plus the extra gubbinz for you all. Raven Guard and the Successors (Aquila with artwork in)versions are quite dark though. White Scars looks the most badass out of all of them IMO:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Then you weren't paying attention, the leaked Euro pics showed the Devs being more expensive than AM's in Europe, so it's natural they'd also be more expensive in Oz.

Well excuse me, princess. Doesn't make it any better, now does it?

I don't think I ever said it did, sweetie pie, just pointing out one of the very first leaked pics showed it would be more expensive and you simply weren't paying attention if you thought they were going to be the same as AM's


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 Stormwall wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I really thought the Devs would be AUD$70 a box like the Assault Marines. Nope. AUD$7-fething-8 a box.

Unbelievable...

Then you weren't paying attention, the leaked Euro pics showed the Devs being more expensive than AM's in Europe, so it's natural they'd also be more expensive in Oz.

Are you serious?

Am I serious about what?

 techsoldaten wrote:

Am I mistaken, or wasn't one of the people who bought the Space Marines Chapter bundle a couple years ago from Australia? The one that had over 1,000 models?

I can't imagine that person feels good about the new kits.

I'm pretty sure that someone who spent $10,000 or $20,000 (whatever it was) to purchase a full chapter of Ultramarines in 1 shot is not too worried about new kits, lol And I'm also pretty sure they didn't buy those models expecting that they'd never have to buy more SM stuff

The real question is... Has he painted all 1000 models yet?!?


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Talys wrote:
Seriously, GW should just cut Australian distribution and ship from the uk at uk prices to local stores and customers. I am pretty sure Australians would take a slower delivery by a few days over 40% price difference or whatever it comes to.

We used to be able to do that, but the embongo stopped us, and then when we could still order from GWUK directly they started slapping on imaginary shipping costs ($40-$70) to any order (even a single paint pot) to discourage people from ordering from GWUK (and GWUS as well).

Man, that's insane. I actually, meant, though, that GW should, as a policy, shut down Australian operations and ship from Europe if the cost of doing business in Australia is so high that it necessitates such a massive pricing discrepancy that Forge World stuff (shipped from the UK) actually ends up being cheaper. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Australians would prefer this than the insane (almost punitive) premium attached to products presently.

Since that probably won't happen, uou really need to find a buddy to buy them from the US (or Europe), box it up, and ship it over to Australia. It's a pity that Australia is an island; in Canada, what we often do when the US has better prices is ship to a border town, drive across, and pick it up There are companies along the border that do nothing other than receive thousands of packages each day for people who want to do this, and they charge a mere $2 for a shipment.

Sometimes (often!), a product on Amazon.ca costs $150, and the same product is $50 on Amazon.com.