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2015/12/03 14:30:55
Subject: Re:Re:Captain America: Civil War- Jimmy Kimmel trailer premiere pg6
.... really did not need the "meow" added to the cover eh ?
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2015/12/18 08:47:42
Subject: Re:Re:Captain America: Civil War- Jimmy Kimmel trailer premiere pg6
TBF it might not be a spoiler -- look at some of the characters on the left !
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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2015/12/18 08:49:17
Subject: Re:Captain America: Civil War- Jimmy Kimmel trailer premiere pg6
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2016/03/10 17:47:13
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
Agree on the Spidey costume. Hulk looks more real on screen. The CGI on it is something I hope they still had time to fix after this trailer was put together.
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2016/03/10 18:01:37
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
I like how the first trailer was focused on Cap and his motivations, and this one was focused more on Tony and his motivations. it leads to an interesting dynamic where the viewer is being asked where they stand, and the movie isn't even out yet.
I am very excited.
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2016/03/10 18:09:06
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
Paradigm wrote: 'I could do this all day'... perfect re-use of that line!
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On the other hand, really, really not impressed with Spidey. At all. A massive step backwards in the costume department there, I feel.
Bear in mind, that trailers don't necessarily reflect the finished product. Still a ways to go before the May release. Probably due some polish. Overall though I like it and I can't wait to see if Spidey gets some Stark tech upgrades (I think the mask has had some?)
Easy E wrote: I like how the first trailer was focused on Cap and his motivations, and this one was focused more on Tony and his motivations. it leads to an interesting dynamic where the viewer is being asked where they stand, and the movie isn't even out yet.
I am very excited.
Agreed... and with the exception of the half second shot showing Crossbones, we don't really have an out and out Bad Guy™ in the movie (I know, Winter Soldier is technically a bad guy, but its quite clear in the trailers that he's pulled an Italy here)
2016/03/10 19:45:10
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
Paradigm wrote: 'I could do this all day'... perfect re-use of that line!
Spoiler:
On the other hand, really, really not impressed with Spidey. At all. A massive step backwards in the costume department there, I feel.
Bear in mind, that trailers don't necessarily reflect the finished product. Still a ways to go before the May release. Probably due some polish. Overall though I like it and I can't wait to see if Spidey gets some Stark tech upgrades (I think the mask has had some?)
I really hope this isn't the final look. In the last decade-and-a-bit we've had two versions of Spiderman that have looked frankly great (I rewatched the 2002/4 ones last week, I was very impressed with how most of the costumes and SFX held up), this seems like a real misstep after that. It just seems to lack any kind of detail or definition, which in a film that looks to be filled with amazing visuals, both practical and digital, really sticks out like a sore thumb.
The rest of the trailer looks brilliant, as did the last one, but I really think they made a mistake revealing Spidey this early, especially if it's unfinished. The Vision reveal in AoU was awesome as a) he looked fantastic and b) he wasn't seen in any of the trailers. Mind you, if I were in a cinema and had seen that Spidey for the first time, I'd probably have been just as disappointed.
2016/03/10 19:50:59
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
I really hope this isn't the final look. In the last decade-and-a-bit we've had two versions of Spiderman that have looked frankly great (I rewatched the 2002/4 ones last week, I was very impressed with how most of the costumes and SFX held up), this seems like a real misstep after that. It just seems to lack any kind of detail or definition, which in a film that looks to be filled with amazing visuals, both practical and digital, really sticks out like a sore thumb.
I really hope they don't do this, but I could actually see them doing a "low-def" Spidey suit in order to throw in some Parker one-liners about how little money he has.
2016/03/10 19:58:26
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
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Wasn't "Tony Stark ruins everything" the point of Avengers 2? Why should I go pay to see a re-tread of that? It seems to me branding the "Internal Conflict" movie for this franchise under the banner of one of two sides is a huge mistake.Maybe the comic fans know enough about the Arc going into this to expect something else out of it but for causal movie-only fan like me it just seems so pointless. It's a Captain America movie, obviously we're going to be rooting for the title character, the title character is going to be clearly in the right and the title character is going to win.
It's fine knowing the title character is going to be right and kick ass when he's up against super-nazis, or killer aliens or whatever. However if I'm going to see a diverse set of characters I'm already familiar with, already kind of like and would kind of be interested in seeing how they shake out in a conflict I'd rather not know the outcome because only one side is the title.
I'm firmly scheduling this one for "Pass until Netflix".
2016/03/10 21:14:59
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
Trust me, if the comics are anything to go by, that's really not how this is going to play out!
Not sure they'll have the guts to go with the 'proper' ending, but I really hope they do, if only because the follow-up comic would make such an awesome translation to a Phase 4 Cap movie after Infinity War.
2016/03/11 00:36:19
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
A good write up on the suit, and the pictures look much better IMO.
Awesome.
Personally, I like the new suit, especially the eyes and how they move (which is a lot like what was done with Deadpool's eyes).
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2016/03/11 07:07:03
Subject: Re:Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
I thought the suit looked a bit wonky, but I'm withholding judgement until I see more. The eyes were cool, but the red and blue seemed... I dunno, very off - as the article said, untextured. It does look a lot better in pictures.
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2016/03/11 07:12:01
Subject: Re:Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
Ouze wrote: I thought the suit looked a bit wonky, but I'm withholding judgement until I see more. The eyes were cool, but the red and blue seemed... I dunno, very off - as the article said, untextured. It does look a lot better in pictures.
I think it looks off because we've had the idea of Spider-Man's suit looking like a fething basketball for some reason shoved down our throats since 2002.
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2016/03/11 07:31:52
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
Paradigm wrote: Trust me, if the comics are anything to go by, that's really not how this is going to play out!
Not sure they'll have the guts to go with the 'proper' ending, but I really hope they do, if only because the follow-up comic would make such an awesome translation to a Phase 4 Cap movie after Infinity War.
I think they will go for the 'proper' ending.
Major spoiler, don't click if you don't know the comics!
Spoiler:
If I remember correctly, Chris Evans hasn't signed on for any more movies, but Sebastian Stan has. Could be old info and his contract was since renewed, but Cap getting killed in Civil War and Barnes picking up the Captain America persona is a likely possibility imo. Especially if they won't resolve the Civil War in Cap 3. They could span the arc over the next few movies (Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Thor 3) and let it end with a reunion for Avengers 3, when Thanos is about to attack.
2016/03/11 08:35:21
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
TBF it might not be a spoiler -- look at some of the characters on the left !
What am I not seeing here? I'm passingly familiar with the comics so feel free to spoil me.
I think he's talking about
Spoiler:
giant Ant-Man
Indeed.
Spoiler:
In the comics Ant-man -- or versions of -- have at times instead/aswell had the power to grow to giant size.
Perhaps this one will too -- much like they did with the ant that they enlarged.
Would certainly give him a bit more "punch" or an extra edge in combat.
course it might just be a cool looking toy.
Note there's both Ant Man and Giant man figs. listed.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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2016/03/11 09:51:11
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
Breotan wrote: Spiderman's eye animation was a little too cartoony for this kind of movie. It should have been more subtle like Deadpool's.
It would appear his eyes are mechanical in some way, most likely built by Tony Stark.
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2016/03/11 10:14:42
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
Paradigm wrote: Trust me, if the comics are anything to go by, that's really not how this is going to play out!
Not sure they'll have the guts to go with the 'proper' ending, but I really hope they do, if only because the follow-up comic would make such an awesome translation to a Phase 4 Cap movie after Infinity War.
I think they will go for the 'proper' ending.
Major spoiler, don't click if you don't know the comics!
Spoiler:
If I remember correctly, Chris Evans hasn't signed on for any more movies, but Sebastian Stan has. Could be old info and his contract was since renewed, but Cap getting killed in Civil War and Barnes picking up the Captain America persona is a likely possibility imo. Especially if they won't resolve the Civil War in Cap 3. They could span the arc over the next few movies (Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Thor 3) and let it end with a reunion for Avengers 3, when Thanos is about to attack.
If I recall,
Spoiler:
Evans is on for the next Avengers movies, Infinity War one and two. However, a) the fact he's on contract doesn't mean they have to use him, and b) we've still got the Time Gem to come in before then, so expect any major death to me reversed in short order Bucky-cap is all but confirmed, Stan is on a 9 film contract (presumably 3 Cap, 3 Bucky-cap and 3 Phase 4 Avengers, and in both appearance so far we've seen him wield the shield in a couple of poses that are iconic Bucky-cap poses, particularly in the first one where he has the pistol and shield on the train,just before he 'dies', that's classic Bucky-cap.
A good write up on the suit, and the pictures look much better IMO.
Better, but I'm still not much of a fan; the moving eyes really bug me, and I don't like the downplayed spider symbols much either... Doesn't help that the article puts it side by side with the other awesome iterations of the suit.
I can certainly see the Silver Age design elements, I'm just personally not much of a fan (I prefer post-2000-ish comics, or late 90s at most).
2016/03/11 13:53:10
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
Evans was originally signed for 6 movies, 3 Cap & 3 Avengers. So unless they updated his contract (possible) he's not contracted for the second part of the third Avengers. I expect him to be the Coulsin at the end of Avengers 3a to give the team the gumption to triumph in Avengers 3b.
Evans and Hemsworth both have made it pretty clear they are happy with what they've done but are looking forward to getting out of the super suits. To be fair they also are the dudes who have to put in effort like it's going out of style for their characters body types.
I'm enjoying the trailers and excited for this. Like really excited. I'm just hoping they fix spidey's suit to make it look more finished and less pure CGI.
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