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At this point, I'm guessing the suit is final. They've probably already shot some scenes with the actor in a real-life suit, right? Unless they're going the Green Lantern route with the suite being all CGI, all the time.

Anyway, past suits may have had exaggerated "webs," but those are what kept the suits from looking like big blobs of red. Kinda looks like Marvel throwing the baby out with the bathwater in the name of establishing that Spidey is "theirs."

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..so this screen grab .....

Spoiler:






....that look like Bucky sans robotic arm yeah ?




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Nope, looks like Evans to me.

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Yeah, I can hope but I did so love the costume from Amazing Spiderman. This one just felt to fake but maybe they keep the suit but touch up the visuals so it fits better. My primary issue is that it feels entirely CGI. Hulk feels more real on screen to me than that costume. We know you can make a red suit look real 95% of the time and look good based on Deadpool

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Nope, looks like Evans to me.


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Oh yeah.


Spoilers !


Spoiler:
That's the Winter Soldier Soviet star on his arm.


Also, from just that quick quip from Spidey, he SOUNDS like Spidey should. Totally on board, just from the voice!

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Ah, could be. That'd be pretty brutal of Iron Man but given the new trailer I could see it.

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Didn't really think my comment warranted a spoiler-felt like I said almost nothing except a tiny confirmation! My bad.

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A lot of people complaining about Spidey's costume you have to realize it's how it looked back in the first comic (minus the web wings, Tony Stark says "UNDEROOS" and pops out spider-man.)

Look at Spider-mans original costume. I"m ok with this

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But that's what I'm talking about -- rolling out the "correct" web pattern vs. going with something that actually looks good on screen. Kinda feels like Marvel's focus is on "reclaiming" Spidey, whereas we just want it to look cool.

Really not a big deal, just raising the point.

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Looks amazing. Simply cannot wait for this film.

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Dunno, I don't see a problem with presentation here

https://i.imgur.com/DFdJepX.jpg

looks fine to me, but then again, I'm not exactly a Spiderman connoisseur.
   
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I think they will go for the 'proper' ending.

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If I remember correctly, Chris Evans hasn't signed on for any more movies, but Sebastian Stan has. Could be old info and his contract was since renewed, but Cap getting killed in Civil War and Barnes picking up the Captain America persona is a likely possibility imo. Especially if they won't resolve the Civil War in Cap 3. They could span the arc over the next few movies (Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Thor 3) and let it end with a reunion for Avengers 3, when Thanos is about to attack.



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gorgon wrote:Kinda looks like Marvel throwing the baby out with the bathwater in the name of establishing that Spidey is "theirs."
gorgon wrote: Kinda feels like Marvel's focus is on "reclaiming" Spidey, whereas we just want it to look cool.

They're reclaiming it (even though he isn't really theirs) by making it look like he does in the comic books: tick-style logo on the back, black outlined eyes that emote, McFarlane-style stubby spider logo on his chest, etc.

On top of all of that, it looks like he's wearing a sleek bodysuit, much like he does in the comics, as opposed to a deflated basketball like he has in the other movies.

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Personally I don't care much for whatever kind of rebranding they may be trying to do with the new look, I like it! The classic look feels nice and I particularly like with the shutter-esque lenses instead of the big mirrored ones like the previous designs.
   
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Not a massive comic book fan/follower.

What the hell is going on here? What films should I watch to catch up?

I thought CA1 was childish BS. 2 was a bit better. Iron man 1 was very good but 2-3 were gak.
Spiderman - all of them I hated.
The famous 4 I hated too.
Is this film completely seperate to the Apocalypse film?

Sheeesh, Not sure whats going on with Marvel now! Anyone explain? (Why isnt Hulk in this one? Wasnt he in IM3?&gt
?




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Not a massive comic book fan/follower.

What the hell is going on here? What films should I watch to catch up?

I thought CA1 was childish BS. 2 was a bit better. Iron man 1 was very good but 2-3 were gak.
Spiderman - all of them I hated.
The famous 4 I hated too.
Is this film completely seperate to the Apocalypse film?

Sheeesh, Not sure whats going on with Marvel now! Anyone explain? (Why isnt Hulk in this one? Wasnt he in IM3?&gt
?





Spiderman, Fantastic 4, and Apocalypse are all from different studios, and completely unrelated.

The movie you would want to see would probably be Avengers 2. That one's the most recent in the main series, and explains where the Hulk is.

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Spiderman, Fantastic 4, and Apocalypse are all from different studios, and completely unrelated.

The movie you would want to see would probably be Avengers 2. That one's the most recent in the main series, and explains where the Hulk is.


Apoc is Marvel studios though no?

Spiderman is not? Hes DC?


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They're Marvel, but they're (the movies, and plots of said movies, not the characters) made by Fox and Sony respectively and not by Disney and Marvel main (the ones behind the MCU).

The Spiderman in this movie is different to the Spiderman in the recent reboot Sony did... (which has been cancelled to be replaced by another reboot with this new Spiderman iirc)

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Break it down for me Brothers:

Who is part of Marvel?

And who is DC?

Or is it all crossover?

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Ratius, you're hurting my brain on this one!

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 Ratius wrote:
Break it down for me Brothers:

Who is part of Marvel?

And who is DC?

Or is it all crossover?

what they are trying to say is that
one company does the x-men movies
one company does spider-man
one company (disney) does the primary marvel movies that are all connected
while they all use Marvel comic characters, because they're done by different movie studios, they aren't all connected together
   
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..so this screen grab .....

Spoiler:






....that look like Bucky sans robotic arm yeah ?





In the first CACW trailer Bucky is trapped by pinning his robo-arm in an industrial vice, maybe he escaped by ripping it off?

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Break it down for me Brothers:

Who is part of Marvel?

And who is DC?

Or is it all crossover?


Forget the X-men movies (all of them). Forget the Spiderman films. Forget anything Batman or Superman.

The order of the films is:

Iron Man
Iron Man 2/The Incredible Hulk/Thor (these films happen all roughly simultaneously)
Captain America: The First Avenger (mostly in WWII, but the end of it takes place after the other four films)
The Avengers
Iron Man 3 (you could realistically skip this and miss literally nothing - no film since has referenced it, plus it's the worst Marvel film of the whole series)
Thor: The Dark World
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy (you could, but shouldn't, skip this one - it's overall plot does not tie into the rest of them... yet)
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Ant-Man
Captain America: Civil War

As we progress each film becomes more and more connected to the last, so Winter Soldier is essentially Avengers 2.5, with a bunch of characters introduced in Age of Ultron appearing in this one. Ant-Man is also in Civil War. Spiderman in this one has no relation to the old Spidey films at all. This is a completely new Spiderman.

A new Spiderman film is coming, it's being made by Sony, but it's part of the MCU.

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 reds8n wrote:


..so this screen grab .....

Spoiler:






....that look like Bucky sans robotic arm yeah ?





In the first CACW trailer Bucky is trapped by pinning his robo-arm in an industrial vice, maybe he escaped by ripping it off?


Looked more like a huge magnet to me, but I'd need to go see it again to be sure.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

As we progress each film becomes more and more connected to the last, so Winter Soldier is essentially Avengers 2.5, with a bunch of characters introduced in Age of Ultron appearing in this one. Ant-Man is also in Civil War. Spiderman in this one has no relation to the old Spidey films at all. This is a completely new Spiderman.


As a Cap fan, I would have liked to have seen this story as a proper Avengers film, and this film saved for a proper Cap-focused story. People can say that he'll be a central character in this film, but I don't see how he won't get lost in his own film given the cast of thousands. Old Avengers and new Avengers with Ant-Man...and now Spidey too! Oh yeah...and Cap.


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Ratius wrote:
Break it down for me Brothers:

Who is part of Marvel?

And who is DC?

Or is it all crossover?



Forget the X-men movies (all of them). Forget the Spiderman films. Forget anything Batman or Superman.

The order of the films is:

Iron Man
Iron Man 2/The Incredible Hulk/Thor (these films happen all roughly simultaneously)
Captain America: The First Avenger (mostly in WWII, but the end of it takes place after the other four films)
The Avengers
Iron Man 3 (you could realistically skip this and miss literally nothing - no film since has referenced it, plus it's the worst Marvel film of the whole series)
Thor: The Dark World
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy (you could, but shouldn't, skip this one - it's overall plot does not tie into the rest of them... yet)
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Ant-Man
Captain America: Civil War

As we progress each film becomes more and more connected to the last, so Winter Soldier is essentially Avengers 2.5, with a bunch of characters introduced in Age of Ultron appearing in this one. Ant-Man is also in Civil War. Spiderman in this one has no relation to the old Spidey films at all. This is a completely new Spiderman.

A new Spiderman film is coming, it's being made by Sony, but it's part of the MCU.


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 Ratius wrote:
Ratius wrote:
Break it down for me Brothers:

Who is part of Marvel?

And who is DC?

Or is it all crossover?



Forget the X-men movies (all of them). Forget the Spiderman films. Forget anything Batman or Superman.

The order of the films is:

Iron Man
Iron Man 2/The Incredible Hulk/Thor (these films happen all roughly simultaneously)
Captain America: The First Avenger (mostly in WWII, but the end of it takes place after the other four films)
The Avengers
Iron Man 3 (you could realistically skip this and miss literally nothing - no film since has referenced it, plus it's the worst Marvel film of the whole series)
Thor: The Dark World
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy (you could, but shouldn't, skip this one - it's overall plot does not tie into the rest of them... yet)
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Ant-Man
Captain America: Civil War

As we progress each film becomes more and more connected to the last, so Winter Soldier is essentially Avengers 2.5, with a bunch of characters introduced in Age of Ultron appearing in this one. Ant-Man is also in Civil War. Spiderman in this one has no relation to the old Spidey films at all. This is a completely new Spiderman.


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Technically Norton Hulk fits in their somewhere too


That's why HBMC listed it with Iron Man 2 and Thor
   
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1. There's no 'technically' about it. The Incredible Hulk is part of the MCU. Hell, General Thaddeus 'Thunderbolt' Ross, played by William Hurt, From The Incredible Hulk, is in Civil War.
2. I included it in my list.

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