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 Easy E wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
We barely know furiosa, to the attack on the convoy is meaningless. as is madmax being strapped to the hood of a car(Why did he need to be a blood bank again?)
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Max had to be a blood bank because the War-boyz are all dying from radiation poisoning and the only thing that allows them to keep going is frequent blood transfusions.

Also, the first 30 minutes we know that Furiosa was a trusted LT to Immortan Joe, and she decided to go rogue. Therefore, the stakes/suspense is finding out why she is going rogue in the first place, AND how will Max get out of being imprisoned by the War-boyz.

But we already figured out why she went rogue, to save the wives

I think the key is, we know fairly soon that Furiosa is saving the wives. It takes quite a bit longer to figure out why she is doing it.

I never did figure her motive. Which was" Take them to my home" and stuff like that.

Nah, I don't think so. I wrote a post all about it a few pages back.

 trexmeyer wrote:
It's really just an OTT action movie that looks like it borrowed heavily from Warhammer 40K Orks.

Don't you mean "borrowed heavily from The Road Warrior"? Because all three Mad Max originals predate the modern " look" of 40K Orks by at least two decades.

Honestly one of the best films I've ever seen, loved every second of it.

Also, I now really wish GW still did Gorka Morka, I have got an itch only a mob of orks in crazy buggies, bike and a massive truck plus another truck with a Goff Rokker on it can scratch.

Just skipped school to see it today, and I thought it was an excellent rendition of the Mad Max world, as well as a pretty though provoking film overall.

 trexmeyer wrote:
Saw it with the GF and I wasn't impressed and to be honest I'm downright shocked at the reviews it is getting. It's really just an OTT action movie that looks like it borrowed heavily from Warhammer 40K Orks. Far too ridiculous of a spectacle to ever be taken remotely seriously. As a pure popcorn action flick it's great, but as anything else...I just don't get the hype.

Have you seen the original movies at all?

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 trexmeyer wrote:
Saw it with the GF and I wasn't impressed and to be honest I'm downright shocked at the reviews it is getting. It's really just an OTT action movie that looks like it borrowed heavily from Warhammer 40K Orks. Far too ridiculous of a spectacle to ever be taken remotely seriously. As a pure popcorn action flick it's great, but as anything else...I just don't get the hype.

Have you seen the original movies at all?

Yes and Thunderdome is better imo.

Watched it and was a ton of fun.

Not sure what people are expecting from a max max movie besides the highoctanecarcarnage.

Now i want to go down to the bullet farm.

 Desubot wrote:
Not sure what people are expecting from a max max movie besides the highoctanecarcarnage.

Fury Road certainly offers that but also much more. And it is not in any way hidden.

 trexmeyer wrote:

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 trexmeyer wrote:
Saw it with the GF and I wasn't impressed and to be honest I'm downright shocked at the reviews it is getting. It's really just an OTT action movie that looks like it borrowed heavily from Warhammer 40K Orks. Far too ridiculous of a spectacle to ever be taken remotely seriously. As a pure popcorn action flick it's great, but as anything else...I just don't get the hype.

Have you seen the original movies at all?

Yes and Thunderdome is better imo.

I had originally misjudged your sentiment and was about to say something along the lines of "Kids these days....".

But you actually have a point. I quite liked Thunderdome. It had some plot to it, in addition to action. And the Thunderdome cage fight of course was a precedent. Who can forget "Two men enter....".

trexmeyer wrote:Saw it with the GF and I wasn't impressed and to be honest I'm downright shocked at the reviews it is getting. It's really just an OTT action movie that looks like it borrowed heavily from Warhammer 40K Orks. Far too ridiculous of a spectacle to ever be taken remotely seriously. As a pure popcorn action flick it's great, but as anything else...I just don't get the hype.

Funny you should say that, I would hazard a guess that elements of Mad Max probably played a big influence in the whole 'Kult of Speed' thing that came along for Orks at the end of 1st edition. In fact, I'd say it's a certainty.

hotsauceman1 wrote:Y,know. Is it bad to say, this movie seemed like a mild pg13?
I mean, what did it have that warranted an R that avengers didnt?

People being shot in the face.
People having their faces ripped off.
Not being comic-book violence.

That's three!

Thought the film was pretty raw, the last word I would ever use to describe it is 'mild' !

 Manchu wrote:
Nah, I don't think so. I wrote a post all about it a few pages back.

Ok, cool. I shouldnt have to read a post to understand her motivation. Mad Max was simple. To run from his deamons, and maybe atone by helping the wives.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
Nah, I don't think so. I wrote a post all about it a few pages back.

Ok, cool. I shouldnt have to read a post to understand her motivation. Mad Max was simple. To run from his deamons, and maybe atone by helping the wives.

The thing is, not everyone does have to read a post to get it. Just because you do...

Ok, explain it. Explain how we know her motivation.
It isnt that clear. Why did she steal the wives in the first place.
Hell, HOW did she get into the vault?


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I mean Nux was the best Char in the movie

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I shouldnt have to read a post to understand her motivation.

I agree but here we are all the same.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Ok, explain it. Explain how we know her motivation.
It isnt that clear. Why did she steal the wives in the first place.
Hell, HOW did she get into the vault?


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I mean Nux was the best Char in the movie

Nux was the only actual character in the movie really. But he died.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I never did figure her motive. Which was" Take them to my home" and stuff like that.

I can never tell if you are being sarcastic.


Hotsauce, please go see Ex Machina and tell me what you think.

 Swastakowey wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Ok, explain it. Explain how we know her motivation.
It isnt that clear. Why did she steal the wives in the first place.
Hell, HOW did she get into the vault?


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I mean Nux was the best Char in the movie

Nux was the only actual character in the movie really. But he died.

Was Nux the Warboy? I don't think I ever caught his name.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I never did figure her motive. Which was" Take them to my home" and stuff like that.

I can never tell if you are being sarcastic.


Hotsauce, please go see Ex Machina and tell me what you think.

no, I could not figure out her motive. The whole barren thing is just speculation.
Why did she work for Joe that long?
the action is great. But the character.
Also, why should I got see ex machina?

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Ok, explain it. Explain how we know her motivation.
It isnt that clear. Why did she steal the wives in the first place.
Hell, HOW did she get into the vault?


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I mean Nux was the best Char in the movie

Nux was the only actual character in the movie really. But he died.

Was Nux the Warboy? I don't think I ever caught his name.

I had to google his name but yea its the warboy turned good.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Ok, explain it. Explain how we know her motivation.
It isnt that clear. Why did she steal the wives in the first place.
Hell, HOW did she get into the vault?

Altogether there were only, like, five minutes of dialogue, and two of those minutes center around her motivation. Sometimes I worry about you.

It's pretty clear that she did a lot of raiding and kidnapping on her way up to becoming an Imperator. She was kidnapped her self, along with her mother, who was clearly fertile. Can you piece the rest together or do you want me to continue?

This movie is very big on giving you enough to know what's going on without having two people talk out every plot point. That's one reason why it's so innovative; Fury Road trusts the audience. Sometimes that trust is misplaced, I guess.


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As for how she got into the vault--it doesn't matter. That is truly unimportant to the story. It's like asking about how The Man With No Name ended up in the desert on a horse with no name.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I never did figure her motive. Which was" Take them to my home" and stuff like that.

I can never tell if you are being sarcastic.


Hotsauce, please go see Ex Machina and tell me what you think.

no, I could not figure out her motive. The whole barren thing is just speculation.
Why did she work for Joe that long?
the action is great. But the character.
Also, why should I got see ex machina?

She worked for Joe that long because she was working on a plan to get the wives out. Plus, being an Imperator for Joe is probably a pretty cooshy job as in that world. I mean, that seems like something you could just assume.

Nux had some great character development and the actor really surprised me. I wouldn't say he is the only character in the movie though. There were a lot of good characters, he just had the best/most development.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I never did figure her motive. Which was" Take them to my home" and stuff like that.

I can never tell if you are being sarcastic.


Hotsauce, please go see Ex Machina and tell me what you think.

no, I could not figure out her motive. The whole barren thing is just speculation.
Why did she work for Joe that long?
the action is great. But the character.
Also, why should I got see ex machina?

Redemption.



If you think Furiosa's motivation was opaque, Ex Machina will really get under your skin.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Ok, explain it. Explain how we know her motivation.
It isnt that clear. Why did she steal the wives in the first place.
Hell, HOW did she get into the vault?

Altogether there were only, like, five minutes of dialogue, and two of those minutes center around her motivation. Sometimes I worry about you.

Worry about me? Isnt that kinda Film Snobbery and an insult.
Let me put it this was, Furiosa is a cool character. She just isnt a good one. Her motivation seemed to be the protect the girls who we have no idea how she knew where there(I could tell that no one knew about the wives)
It is full of plot holes IMO

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Ok, explain it. Explain how we know her motivation.
It isnt that clear. Why did she steal the wives in the first place.
Hell, HOW did she get into the vault?

Altogether there were only, like, five minutes of dialogue, and two of those minutes center around her motivation. Sometimes I worry about you.

Worry about me? Isnt that kinda Film Snobbery and an insult.
Let me put it this was, Furiosa is a cool character. She just isnt a good one. Her motivation seemed to be the protect the girls who we have no idea how she knew where there(I could tell that no one knew about the wives)
It is full of plot holes IMO

I wouldn't say it was film snobbery. You just seem awfully sure that nothing escaped your notice despite everyone else telling you that it did. A lot of information was conveyed nonverbally, through implication or indirectly. While I'm not going to Be Afraid that you're 'on the spectrum', I am surprised that you failed to notice it. In sociological matters, you often display a lot of insight, so I am confused when you seem reluctant to admit there might be another angle to a subject.


Those are not plot holes. She knew Joe had his wives because her mother, and maybe even Furiosa's herself, was kidnapped by Joe to be part of his harem. She was in a highly trusted position, probably kidnapping other young women if opportunity arose. She knew the score more than the war boys or peasants.

She outright states she is seeking redemption, that survival alone is not enough.

But Redemption for what?

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
But Redemption for what?

While I thought it was all pretty bland, she clearly felt she needed redemption for likely aiding the bad guy. She wanted to flee so she thought she might take some of the victims with her and go back to the land of her dreams.

Great movie! I loved so much about it! Charlize was great! The sequences were great! The score/soundtrack were great. I totally 'witnessed' greatness!