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Methinks some folks need to get back their Marvel movies, where deep meaning, tight plotting, strict realism, and vision-over-formula abound.

Was that a pun at the end, Gorgon?

How did they get the gas?

Well, the whole point of Furiosa leaving the plac eint the first plac eitn eh war rig was to go to GasTown at the other end of Fury Road. In the distance as they were driving, you could see that Gas Town was a giant refinery. It is pretty clear to me where they got their gas.

I'm sure the usual arrangement was Food and Water in exchange for Gas. Especially since later on they establish that the leaders of the various "evil" tribes are all related. They essentially monopolize the creation of certain things that their mini-empires need, like the "Palace Economies" of the ancient Myceneans and Minoans before the Greek Dark Age. I.e. a very, very long time ago.

Im more curious as to what the bullet farm would look like.

How they would manufacture all the parts needed and stuff. or if its just a giant ammo dump.

 Desubot wrote:
Im more curious as to what the bullet farm would look like.

How they would manufacture all the parts needed and stuff. or if its just a giant ammo dump.

Collect casings. Smelt metal for Slugs. Hopefully a stockpile or mine of sulfur and saltpeter.

If it's sitting on a rich source of sulfur and saltpeter, the rest all really falls into place.

Isnt that the recipe for old school black powder?

i wasnt sure if cartridges can use black powder instead of the smokeless stuff we got now.

 pretre wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
Im more curious as to what the bullet farm would look like.

How they would manufacture all the parts needed and stuff. or if its just a giant ammo dump.

Collect casings. Smelt metal for Slugs. Hopefully a stockpile or mine of sulfur and saltpeter.

If it's sitting on a rich source of sulfur and saltpeter, the rest all really falls into place.

Yeah, and as we've seen from Max's misfire, it's not like the manufactured gunpowder is perfect, hence the wider use of harpoons, thrown explosives, etc.

The bulletfarm people probably keep the best for themselves and Joes private machine gun dude. Furiosa had quite a large supply, too, probably from her role as Imperator.

 Desubot wrote:
Isnt that the recipe for old school black powder?

i wasnt sure if cartridges can use black powder instead of the smokeless stuff we got now.

I think you can use black powder in a cartridge, but it fouls the sensitive parts more quickly due to the residue.

Looks like others got me covered. Yeah, it is old powder but it'll do in the apocalypse.

Anyway, one question I had was you know when Max has some flashbacks about some kids or people he couldn't save - who was that? Is that his family from the first movie? Didn't he save some kids in the third movie? It's been a long time since I've seen those movies.

 pretre wrote:
Looks like others got me covered. Yeah, it is old powder but it'll do in the apocalypse.

Well what works works

But damnit if still wana see it.

They probably have and worship an un asploded nuke

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Anyway, one question I had was you know when Max has some flashbacks about some kids or people he couldn't save - who was that? Is that his family from the first movie? Didn't he save some kids in the third movie? It's been a long time since I've seen those movies.

Well, there's a theory kicking around about the new Max, I'll just post a link here but beware of spoilers.

http://nerdist.com/mad-max-fan-theory-will-make-you-want-to-see-fury-road-again/

It has some merit, I think, but nothing conclusive.

I thought at least one or two of the flashbacks was clearly his kids getting run over in the first movie.

 pretre wrote:
I thought at least one or two of the flashbacks was clearly his kids getting run over in the first movie.

Well, from the article I linked...

Aha, gotcha.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Furiosa had quite a large supply, too, probably from her role as Imperator.

She had lots of guns but her bullet supplies seem pretty limited -- so that's what one of the most powerful people in Citadel society can "afford."

 pretre wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
Im more curious as to what the bullet farm would look like.

How they would manufacture all the parts needed and stuff. or if its just a giant ammo dump.

Collect casings. Smelt metal for Slugs. Hopefully a stockpile or mine of sulfur and saltpeter.

If it's sitting on a rich source of sulfur and saltpeter, the rest all really falls into place.

I would hazard a guess that it is part former ammo dump (the boss man rides in a tank chassis, so perhaps an old military base?) and part new manufacture....



If they are going back to the old way of making gun powder, I would also have to guess that they are located near a very large bat cave as up through the end of WW2, bat guano was THE prime source for gun powder materials.
This is of course, assuming that in all the nuclearness, that bats have survived (which is plausible, if we also assume that the majority of blasts took place during the day, when people can see, bats are sleeping, and many insects are inactive as well)

Australia has a lot of mining. I am not sure what they mine and where but bullet farm could be a mix of an old mine Australia are famous for (they have mining towns and everything) which get the supplies for bullets.

The petrol place is something I have no explanation for that.

You have no explanation for an oil refinery?

 pretre wrote:
You have no explanation for an oil refinery?

Does Australia have oil refinery?

Actually i forget is mad max even in Australia? (like based not filmed in)

Well, considering that alot of the cars are driven on the right hand side.

It is Australian, thunderdome has the sydney opera house etc.

But yea I don't know if Australia has oil refineries. I know above them in the asian regions there are oil fields (Japan was fighting for them in WW2) but not sure about Australia itself.

Although. I do have to made a warband inspired by the cars.
I so am gonna make the gigahorse for my Dropzone resistance.
I just to make it clear, I dont hate the movie I love it. I just think it just falls apart when you poke it abit.
It Follows makes no sense. but i loved it.

 Swastakowey wrote:
It is Australian, thunderdome has the sydney opera house etc.

But yea I don't know if Australia has oil refineries. I know above them in the asian regions there are oil fields (Japan was fighting for them in WW2) but not sure about Australia itself.

I personally think it takes place in America, or at least MM and Road Warrior do anyhow I mean look at these costumes and tell me that Australians actually have much history with these items?



Also.... as we all know, America has all the guns, and ergo, all the bullets. So it cant possibly take place in Australia

I dunno, finding that many suits of padding for not-rugby could actually be possible if you knew where to look, and if you found them then they'd be in good nick, because we all play real rugby (or its bogan lesser cousin) here...

(and I know you do to Ensis)

I know he's being silly but the first two were explicitly Australia.

My friends and I always wondered if roadwarrior survivors had happened on a sporting goods store as everyone had the same armor.





Really didn't care for this guys butt floss get up. Just rewatched roadwarrior over the weekend and at the point where humongous has him chained by the neck and cuts him loose he jumps up from the car's hood you get flashed with his junk. ugh.

 Swastakowey wrote:
It is Australian, thunderdome has the sydney opera house etc.

But yea I don't know if Australia has oil refineries. I know above them in the asian regions there are oil fields (Japan was fighting for them in WW2) but not sure about Australia itself.

the originals, and FR, kinda hand waive some oil related stuff away, the small scale rigs they have where its just that lone small drilling well are found all over the world so that they were pumping up crude anywhere on earth is believable.

BUT

there was never any actual refining equipment shown in either movie, so its magically turned from crude into petrol, and generally the refining is the hard part (requiring electricity generally)


fury road also never explains where they get all their nitrous either lol, all in good fun though.

someone commented on blackpowder being used in modern fire arms, and the answer is a flat out NO! its not going to work outside a few specific cartridges, in a few specific guns, generally the only exceptions are old cartridges like the .38 and only in revolvers that can handle it. That, and the bullet farm needs a source for new stamped metal and ferrous for the primers, means it would have to have a large supply chain to actually pump out new cartridges. I just assume it is a huge huge cache of ammo.


Would be nice to see how bullet farm gets its stuff. Hopefully the next few movies keep the awesome action, but also have a lot more stuff that explores the world itself.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Its all "Cool Look at those awesome supped up cars" until you realize how implausible they are to exist.

Well, yes, that's exactly what it is. Except most of us don't have some big realisation that this is all very implausible and start to reject this, instead we know that it's ludicrous from the outset and just have fun anyway. I mean, we're talking about a film series that started by telling us there was an oil crisis, and people responded by having lots of high speed chases in gas guzzling V8 cars.

This film is basically about fighting in modified cars in a lawless post-apocalypse. That's basically it - that fantasy engages you or it doesn't. Pointing out that it is actually very likely is meaningless.


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Not applicable. Because its in the future and i can think "At some point, a society with resources and advance Technology was able to do this" but its the post apocalypse. They shouldnt have resources like that. Look at Fallout. Everything is the same as when things wnet boom. People are living in this society with the tech they got.

Umm, Fallout is exactly as ludicrous (and the more recent games are even more ludicrous). And that's okay, because we're not dealing with a highly detailed effort at believable world building with either case. In both cases we're dealing with highly stylised post-apocalyptic settings. In fact, in both cases the basic premise is very similar - Fallout asked what would happen if you took an idealised 1950s America and dropped the bomb, while Mad Max looked at the collapse of society from the point of view of 1970s Australian bogan car culture.

 sebster wrote:

Umm, Fallout is exactly as ludicrous (and the more recent games are even more ludicrous). And that's okay, because we're not dealing with a highly detailed effort at believable world building with either case. In both cases we're dealing with highly stylised post-apocalyptic settings. In fact, in both cases the basic premise is very similar - Fallout asked what would happen if you took an idealised 1950s America and dropped the bomb, while Mad Max looked at the collapse of society from the point of view of 1970s Australian bogan car culture.

Agreed... I think that movies like Book of Eli, for good or ill are done in a more serious tone (and say what you will about Eli, I actually like that movie) and do a pretty good job of story, backdrop and everything that goes along with.