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"I've also been told the same thing by others online, [ib]but they are likely just taking part in the same trolling.[/b]"
People tells you its exaggerated beyond all proportion, just some clickbait gak storm manufactured by clickbaiting trolls deliberately trying to provoke and outrage the more militant and extreme fringes of internet Feminism, so you assume they (the messengers) are all part of it too? What is this, a MRA conspiracy to simultaneously boycott a film and pretend they're not boycotting?
Its ironic really, because there actually are some Feminist influences in the film. As I understand it, the film makers consulted some Feminist social/charity worker who does work in Africa providing support and counseling etc for the victims of the rampant sexual abuse and human rights abuses that go on in some places on that continent, so they could better portray the victims of sexual abuse in the film (Furiosa's friends are sex slaves forced to breed Joe's children).
That is something I consider quite admirable, that they would go to such effort, hiring an expert, and a REAL Feminist (not one of those faux Feminist "SJW" types like Sarkeesian who dominate internet discourse), to better portray the sensitive issues depicted in the film and to help them write better characters.
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the line isnt "Women are not things" its "We are not things" same jist though
and the answer is NO. there is no IMO. its NO. it is not bad that it is "Feminist Propaganda" because we need movies like that damnit.
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Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: People tells you its exaggerated beyond all proportion, just some clickbait gak storm manufactured by clickbaiting trolls deliberately trying to provoke and outrage the more militant and extreme fringes of internet Feminism, so you assume they (the messengers) are all part of it too? What is this, a MRA conspiracy to simultaneously boycott a film and pretend they're not boycotting?
I think it would have been more understandable if you saw the context.
But yes. It's not a bad movie, nor are its messages bad, no matter whether you think it's actively feministic or not.
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Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: People tells you its exaggerated beyond all proportion, just some clickbait gak storm manufactured by clickbaiting trolls deliberately trying to provoke and outrage the more militant and extreme fringes of internet Feminism, so you assume they (the messengers) are all part of it too? What is this, a MRA conspiracy to simultaneously boycott a film and pretend they're not boycotting?
I think it would have been more understandable if you saw the context.
But yes. It's not a bad movie, nor are its messages bad, no matter whether you think it's actively feministic or not.
Oh I do think its feminist, to some degree at least. But its the kind of Feminism that I actually like and respect, that has interesting important things to say about important issues like sexual abuse and slavery as opposed to say...complaining about Super Mario.
Slavery is bad. Raping people and forcing them to carry your children is bad. I think we can all agree on that.
Slavery is bad. Raping people and forcing them to carry your children is bad. I think we can all agree on that.
I agree!
There is also a middle ground between that and Mario, mind you, one that also is quite relevant (though more or less untouched by the film, so perhaps not something to discuss for this very moment). It should not be forgotten, however!
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hotsauceman1 wrote:I heard, and this is my experiance
I shouldn't have to explain why that is bad, nor why it doesn't encompass the whole.
BlaxicanX wrote:The movie is objectively "feminist propaganda".
It may be feminist, in the sense that women aren't shown completely as worthless, but it isn't propaganda at all. Watch Triumph of the Will or the Why We Fight series if you want that. Yes there are more openly offensive films but I am not going to list them.
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By the way, what the feth was that thing with spitting gasoline into the front intakes to boost the engine?
Is that gak really a thing?
I don't believe they were spitting gasoline into the intakes for more boost... I believe someone said it was "Nitro" which is essentially what you're doing if you do have a nitrous-oxide system into the engine (the spray of Nitrous goes into firing chamber, rather than through the air intakes, but IIRC, in a fully supercharged setup like they had you wouldn't have the tightly wound air filter that would block that flammable liquid getting into the combustion chambers.... you'd also have to have some MAJOR upkeep to keep all that radioactive Aussie sand out of the whole engine as well
BlaxicanX wrote:The movie is objectively "feminist propaganda".
It may be feminist, in the sense that women aren't shown completely as worthless, but it isn't propaganda at all. Watch Triumph of the Will or the Why We Fight series if you want that. Yes there are more openly offensive films but I am not going to list them.
Having now seen the movie, the 'opinion' that the film is propaganda is complete and utter trash (and yes, I put it in ' ' on purpose because I find the entire idea that anyone can hold that as a legitimate thought highly suspect). There's gotta be a jump the shark moment around here somewhere for this... You know. Where it just gets so insane that not even a loony can buy into it.
Not even sure the film can qualify as feminist per se. Sure there are women in it, and they do stuff, but half of them are basically cannon fodder, and the other half still need Max to save them (numerous times) and show them the true meaning of hope, so honestly, the only thing that makes the film stand out on the feminist front is the large number of action women in the cast.
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Already saw the movie twice, would totally watch it three more times. Such an awesome movie. I had never seen the originals but I definitely plan to now.
By the way, what the feth was that thing with spitting gasoline into the front intakes to boost the engine?
Is that gak really a thing?
Spraying ether starting fluid into the air intake is a trick for getting extra horse power into a seized up engine. It's a bit explosive so not a good idea with an already running engine, but if you are crazy enough to be crawling around on the hood of a car at 60+ mph and praying for death in a fiery crash... seems like it could be a thing. Could also be a form of nitrous oxide.
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By the way, what the feth was that thing with spitting gasoline into the front intakes to boost the engine?
Is that gak really a thing?
I don't believe they were spitting gasoline into the intakes for more boost... I believe someone said it was "Nitro" which is essentially what you're doing if you do have a nitrous-oxide system into the engine (the spray of Nitrous goes into firing chamber, rather than through the air intakes, but IIRC, in a fully supercharged setup like they had you wouldn't have the tightly wound air filter that would block that flammable liquid getting into the combustion chambers.... you'd also have to have some MAJOR upkeep to keep all that radioactive Aussie sand out of the whole engine as well
Yeah it wasn't gas they were spitting into the intake manifolds. It was (assumedly) some form of nitromethane (nitro for short) fuel. However, i'm not certain exactly what the point (other than cool factor) was of spitting it into the combustion air intake manifold, as the combustion air intake in any burner, and by proxy i would assume engines, though i suppose i could be wrong, would be seperate from the fuel injection line.
The only thing i can think of is if the burner / engine were a matrix pre-mix air-to-fuel vaporized combination unit. You see this is in heating plans quite a lot. I am not a car expert by any means, so maybe someone with more knowledge about cards could weigh in if such a thing exists for vehicle engines.
I do know this: when you use nitromethane, its typically with an engine specifically designed to be boosted with Nitromethane, and not just any old engine. So that said i suppose there could be a vaporizer just inside the combustion air intake manifold, but vaporizers are usually under pressure, and the negative draft + wind draft almost certainly wouldn't be enough and it would be inefficient as hell.
Also it's probably not nitrous oxide. That's a gas at normal atmospheric pressure and room temperature, and wouldn't be liquid. If it was any Nx compound, it was nitromethane. If it was nitrous oxide, it would have to be emulsed into something like gasoline, which would dilute its combustive volatility, and probably wouldn't be an ideal choice over other nitrous compounds.
But then again, it was cool as hell, so i am not bothered by this one single iota other than being an interesting exercise in mental engineering. Sorry if i'm waxing ecstatic. I deal with fossil fuels a lot for work so i'm something of a fuel nerd.
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creeping-deth87 wrote: Already saw the movie twice, would totally watch it three more times. Such an awesome movie. I had never seen the originals but I definitely plan to now.
I'm going to see the film for a second time as well, experiences like that in the cinema don't come along too often!
I was talking to someone at work and they told me the kid who played Nux was the little kid in About a Boy.
So now, in my own extended universe, Hugh Grant befriends and mentors an awkward boy, then dies in the apocalypse, and that boy goes on to get in big car fights for an evil empire in the post-apocalypse.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
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Go down and read the comments
I need that product now.
Agreed. Those are some of the funniest product reviews I've read.
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