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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/31 20:25:16
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Black with bare metal scuffs? Or rusty metal maybe? Could work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 05:11:46
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Miniature Market Deal of the Day: Mars Attacks: The Miniatures Game Core Set : $25
http://www.miniaturemarket.com/mgma01-1.html
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 06:08:29
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Swamp Troll
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Yoink!
Thanks for the heads up. Any time I feel bad about missing a Mantic Kickstarter I always remind myself that their stuff ends up in clearance pretty fast. Grabbed one and somewhat regretting missing the deals from last month or whenever now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 11:37:03
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Worth it even just for the terrain at that price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 11:59:18
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Shame its 40$ shipping to Germany ;(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 13:08:01
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Regular MA just has the paper mat right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 13:17:02
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Pious Warrior Priest
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^ Correct.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 13:22:44
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Alright I can afford to skip then, too many models as it is. Thsnks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 13:43:08
Subject: Re:The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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I picked up a mars attacks, struggled with whether or not to buy it overnight, but 40 models for $25 plus all the terrain....even though its mantic and I'm frustrated with them right now I still broke down. Plus martians.
Edit:  Well, multiple (sets) mistakes were made. Lets just say lots of terrain, and plenty of martians for Warpath are going to get picked up on monday
I look at it as supporting my local plastic crack supplier.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 17:22:26
Subject: Re:The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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Mars Attacks is a really solid game. It's good to go straight out of the box. My kids grasped it with no problems whatsoever. It's a simplified and streamlined Deadzone after all.
Grabbed one for a gift for a family member (not Barzam, he can get his own damn Martians!) so he can play with his nerd friends.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 17:29:57
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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They were gone by the time I saw the link. Maybe I'll get a chance on Black Friday...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 19:04:03
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Black Friday will probably see dungeon saga: see page xxx
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 19:23:18
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's funny that some people claim that KS is driving business away from FLGS unfairly then you have MM that seems to me that they are driving business to them unfairly due to their price cuts, kind of like Amazon really. I'm just glad that there isn't a MM here in the UK, or the EU for that matter!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 19:50:24
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I saw plenty of page XXX as a teenager, thanks.
DS for Black Friday could be a winner, though. Automatically Appended Next Post: overtyrant wrote:It's funny that some people claim that KS is driving business away from FLGS unfairly then you have MM that seems to me that they are driving business to them unfairly due to their price cuts, kind of like Amazon really. I'm just glad that there isn't a MM here in the UK, or the EU for that matter!
I may not be representative of the entire hobby, but I find I will buy reasonably priced items and impulse buys at the FLGS, while waiting for super deals on huge sets or satisfactory price cuts on overpriced items via MM Black Friday sales. For example, I'll buy Bones or WGF/ DFG minis at the FLGS, but I wouldn't buy Arcane Legions from the FLGS at the original MSRP, whereas I have bought 3 KOW armies' worth from MM at their 'just right' prices.
Mantic's KS campaigns have set their 'just right' prices far lower than their MSRPs. Live by the kickstarter/ die by the kickstarter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 20:06:47
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Swamp Troll
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overtyrant wrote:It's funny that some people claim that KS is driving business away from FLGS unfairly then you have MM that seems to me that they are driving business to them unfairly due to their price cuts, kind of like Amazon really. I'm just glad that there isn't a MM here in the UK, or the EU for that matter!
This is off-topic but it's not KS. It's companies that use KS for their release cycle instead of a traditional funding model. Traditional funding and an actual preorder system help support an FLGS. Startups using KS to fund their initial products are not hurting FLGS because no sales are lost on something that doesn't exist from a company that may not exist if funding isn't successful.
MM is selling at a price that FLGS are refusing. Most FLGS I've seen sell at MSRP or even higher if they know it's a popular item or OOP. I went to a place in Fresno and there were boardgames there that were listed at $100 that have been in the bargain bin in just about every online store I've seen. My kids were like "dad can we get this" and I had to very softly explain no.. that game isn't made anymore and is on sale for $30 online.
Is it the FLGS fault that they don't reduce the price on their product to reflect the market? Most retailers get 40-60% off and some even more depending on the product and volume. Sticking to MSRP to maximize their cut is purely a business decision on their part and not the fault of any other retailer.
Sorry about the mini rant but I see this often and it is a little frustrating that people don't understand.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 21:33:03
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Regular Dakkanaut
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What's MM?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 22:06:10
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Swamp Troll
San Diego
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MiniatureMarket but it really applies to any of the online stores like Warstore etc. MM just happens to have a DotD program that offers massive discounts to stuff they have too much stock of.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 22:06:42
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Miniature Market, http://www.miniaturemarket.com/, the US go to place for cheap minis and games (sadly postage/VAT means savings tend not to be worth it to ship stuff over here)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/01 22:57:45
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Gun Mage
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It's kind of weird situation for me, since I live about 20 minutes from Miniature Market so they basically are a FLGS for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/02 00:12:55
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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TheWaspinator wrote:It's kind of weird situation for me, since I live about 20 minutes from Miniature Market so they basically are a FLGS for me.
Same here, I live less than 2 miles from them and stop by at least once a week to check their dinged and dented deals, usually score something awesome. You just have to time it right. I passed on a set of Mars attacks buildings from there the other day, guess they had gotten a shipment in and had a damaged box. I might have picked it up if I knew their deal of the day yesterday was going to be so good (snagged 3 boxes).
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/02 01:02:23
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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/jealous
I do live with in driving distance, but going upwards of two hours out to pick something up isn't really economical these days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/02 03:17:21
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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MLaw wrote:overtyrant wrote:It's funny that some people claim that KS is driving business away from FLGS unfairly then you have MM that seems to me that they are driving business to them unfairly due to their price cuts, kind of like Amazon really. I'm just glad that there isn't a MM here in the UK, or the EU for that matter!
This is off-topic but it's not KS. It's companies that use KS for their release cycle instead of a traditional funding model. Traditional funding and an actual preorder system help support an FLGS. Startups using KS to fund their initial products are not hurting FLGS because no sales are lost on something that doesn't exist from a company that may not exist if funding isn't successful.
MM is selling at a price that FLGS are refusing. Most FLGS I've seen sell at MSRP or even higher if they know it's a popular item or OOP. I went to a place in Fresno and there were boardgames there that were listed at $100 that have been in the bargain bin in just about every online store I've seen. My kids were like "dad can we get this" and I had to very softly explain no.. that game isn't made anymore and is on sale for $30 online.
Is it the FLGS fault that they don't reduce the price on their product to reflect the market? Most retailers get 40-60% off and some even more depending on the product and volume. Sticking to MSRP to maximize their cut is purely a business decision on their part and not the fault of any other retailer.
Sorry about the mini rant but I see this often and it is a little frustrating that people don't understand.
Are you advocating that brick & mortar stores not sell @ MSRP? Sorry not sure I understand the mini-rant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/02 04:03:09
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Swamp Troll
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privateer4hire wrote: MLaw wrote:overtyrant wrote:It's funny that some people claim that KS is driving business away from FLGS unfairly then you have MM that seems to me that they are driving business to them unfairly due to their price cuts, kind of like Amazon really. I'm just glad that there isn't a MM here in the UK, or the EU for that matter!
This is off-topic but it's not KS. It's companies that use KS for their release cycle instead of a traditional funding model. Traditional funding and an actual preorder system help support an FLGS. Startups using KS to fund their initial products are not hurting FLGS because no sales are lost on something that doesn't exist from a company that may not exist if funding isn't successful.
MM is selling at a price that FLGS are refusing. Most FLGS I've seen sell at MSRP or even higher if they know it's a popular item or OOP. I went to a place in Fresno and there were boardgames there that were listed at $100 that have been in the bargain bin in just about every online store I've seen. My kids were like "dad can we get this" and I had to very softly explain no.. that game isn't made anymore and is on sale for $30 online.
Is it the FLGS fault that they don't reduce the price on their product to reflect the market? Most retailers get 40-60% off and some even more depending on the product and volume. Sticking to MSRP to maximize their cut is purely a business decision on their part and not the fault of any other retailer.
Sorry about the mini rant but I see this often and it is a little frustrating that people don't understand.
Are you advocating that brick & mortar stores not sell @ MSRP? Sorry not sure I understand the mini-rant.
It's this simple. If Miniature Market can sell for below MSRP and thrive, even with shipping charges.. then FLGS should be able to sell at reduced rates. My FLGS when I lived in VA understood this and had a membership fee that netted you discounts and sales. They were very successful. From what others are saying, MM is a brick and mortar store too (it's their FLGS.. they say it here a few posts up)..
Anyway, this is related to Mantic, purely because they have been pushing through KS.. arguably alienating FLGSes. Which, in theory.. long term the FLGS should be Mantic's lifeblood for longevity but funding so heavily through KS, they are arguably pushing away the businesses that they need to survive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/02 04:04:32
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Isn't this why Mantic is releasing certain models only via retail outlets?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/02 04:06:43
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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They can try to sell it at MSRP. They can try.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/02 04:08:46
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Swamp Troll
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Sining wrote:Isn't this why Mantic is releasing certain models only via retail outlets?
I'm sure a lot of retailers are thrilled.. except that a few retailer only models don't really fill the gap of the FLGS not selling the rest of the army the model is intended for. I would bet money that store owners see it as a token gesture at best.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/02 04:45:48
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Just a heads up, but Brookhurst Hobbies had Mantic undead boxes at 50% off last time I went there. They have some of the new army boxes, but not a lot and apparently without much expectation of movement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/02 05:13:35
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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BobtheInquisitor wrote:Just a heads up, but Brookhurst Hobbies had Mantic undead boxes at 50% off last time I went there. They have some of the new army boxes, but not a lot and apparently without much expectation of movement.
When was the last time you were there? Last I went they had the new books and boxes, but none of the old stuff. At all. Believe me, I love digging through that store, and I came across nothing other than a few old Warpath metal blisters.
The three dollar Rackham goblins however... those all came home with me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/02 05:39:16
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I think it was Friday? Maybe Thursday? They had easily 20 of the VHS boxes in the front table, where the Ronin Wars clearance used to be. It might be worth calling them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/02 07:03:39
Subject: Re:The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - more Veer-Myn previews page 34
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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Well... huh.
Guess it looks like we'll be having to venture forth into the great wild County of Orange pretty soon.
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