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Alex C wrote: No screenie of the Power Armor HUD but it's right around the "getting into the armor" animation and he's firing a minigun. Lots of guages and meters. Looks swell!
And no doubt NMA is decrying this game, but feth those guys.
Maybe I'm missing something, but why would NMA be so against this?
Because they think that anything beyond Fallout 1 (and maybe 2) isn't "proper" Fallout.
But like I said, feth those guys.
Fallout 4 and Shelter are going to consume my life
On the coast subject, there's an image of a submarine too. Its really front heavy, in fact it reminds me of a whale a bit. Its a Chinese one too! Perhaps the same type as the one that went on to form Shi Town in Fallout 2. In other words it had a super computer inside, that acted rather Wizard of Oz like. My thinking is that perhaps MIT wants you loot that computer to help with their own Masterbrain, or maybe the Masterbrain is that sub's computer (or its something else, speculating here).
Also Super Mutants wearing Chinese Ushanka are a thing, so aye, Communist presence in the area sort of confirmed. Hopefully its better handled than 3.
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Alex C wrote: No screenie of the Power Armor HUD but it's right around the "getting into the armor" animation and he's firing a minigun. Lots of guages and meters. Looks swell!
And no doubt NMA is decrying this game, but feth those guys.
Maybe I'm missing something, but why would NMA be so against this?
Seriously go over to their thread on Fallout 4 right now and I'll bet you my house that they're bitching about every minute detail. I read that thread for the first ten pages and couldn't help thinking "feth these overly nostalgic asshats".
People with a hell of a lot of cables coming out of their heads are a thing too.
Super Mutants have this Squig like looking four legged dog creature with them. A dead one can be seen in the actual game segments of the video.
Vault armours seem to have been expanded on. I see a combat armoured suit and a full body environmental one too, though the later may just be concept art (the combat armour was seen in the trailer briefly).
That place in Bostom, something square, that has a club called ah, something about dreams, has Tranquility Loungers in it. It looks like a Chinese opium den. I guess you can go in there and live out simulations, which seems really cool and a great opportunity for modders to stick in all crazy kinds of crap.
Mutant bats are a thing...
Might have the choice of siding with the Brotherhood or going up against them. There's plenty of images of you fighting alongside them (shooting a minigun out of a Vertibird in one image), but that blimp being shot down could be because of you or just a plot point either way.
Edit: I said earlier that the Enclave armour was T-60. Nah, T-60's an entirely new set. Perhaps made by the Brotherhood. T-51b was the set that was apparently the cutting edge before the war and given to only front line unit, however even though its stated to be the most advanced, perhaps there were others in testing. So T-60 could be a pre-war armour that wasn't put into mass production, along with all the other sets that came after T-51b. Its an excuse for Bethesda to update the armour's design at least, without the clunky T-51b being their cap as to how advanced they can go.
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I think skills may have been changed. In the menus I have see requirements for science rank 1/2/3 rather then science 10 or something. Other weapons needed gun nut 1 rather then guns 10. Maybe there are no skills?
Edit Ok I think I am calling it now. No more skills. Your just going to have perks. That would explain why the perk chart is so bloody huge. If you take all the skill effects and put them into perks then you would have a ton of perks.
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That is weird, I hope they don't change the % system.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, there was a lot of killing of BoS, I wonder if this will mean they will the the baddies, like how the enclave were in FO3, or will it be a bit more choose your side like FO:NV. I hope it's more like NV personally.
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sebster wrote: Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
BaronIveagh wrote: Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
Co'tor Shas wrote: That is weird, I hope they don't change the % system.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, there was a lot of killing of BoS, I wonder if this will mean they will the the baddies, like how the enclave were in FO3, or will it be a bit more choose your side like FO:NV. I hope it's more like NV personally.
IIRC the main story is about the andriods, and you choosing a side based on enslaving them, or helping them gain their freedom. Can't remember where I saw that bit of info, but I'm guessing it depends on what you choose. And did you see the BoS symbol, or just the power armor? could just be PA used by other groups.
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bittersashes wrote:One guy down at my gaming club swore he saw an objective flag take out a full unit of Bane Thralls.
You can paint your power armour in a variety of schemes (military, Vault-Tec, crazy biker flames), as well as add upgrades like "Lead Plating" and "Explosive Shielding". The same presumably goes for the regular armours too. Again this is taken from a mod, the one that added a ton of was to mod Power Armour. I can see this being great for modders too, for instance you want Hello Kitty Power Armour, then there you go. I wonder if you can apply multiple mods at once, as that'd be good for mods too.
Baseball armour features heavily among the raiders. Guess its because of that stadium. So its not just the guards at Diamond City who wear it at least.
Co'tor Shas wrote: That is weird, I hope they don't change the % system.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, there was a lot of killing of BoS, I wonder if this will mean they will the the baddies, like how the enclave were in FO3, or will it be a bit more choose your side like FO:NV. I hope it's more like NV personally.
IIRC the main story is about the andriods, and you choosing a side based on enslaving them, or helping them gain their freedom. Can't remember where I saw that bit of info, but I'm guessing it depends on what you choose. And did you see the BoS symbol, or just the power armor? could just be PA used by other groups.
One of the segments in the video calls a guy "Brotherhood Initiate".
Co'tor Shas wrote: That is weird, I hope they don't change the % system.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, there was a lot of killing of BoS, I wonder if this will mean they will the the baddies, like how the enclave were in FO3, or will it be a bit more choose your side like FO:NV. I hope it's more like NV personally.
IIRC the main story is about the andriods, and you choosing a side based on enslaving them, or helping them gain their freedom. Can't remember where I saw that bit of info, but I'm guessing it depends on what you choose. And did you see the BoS symbol, or just the power armor? could just be PA used by other groups.
One of the segments in the video calls a guy "Brotherhood Initiate".
Ahh, missed that then. Hm, it'd be kinda cool, and it'd make sense with the story, if it is around the androids (could easily see the BoS wanting to control the androids as they're pretty advanced tech)
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bittersashes wrote:One guy down at my gaming club swore he saw an objective flag take out a full unit of Bane Thralls.
Some Ghouls are missing limbs. Another mod from Fallout 3.
There's a Raider Veteran wearing power armour. I suppose then that it won't be so tough to get a hold of the older suits, but the better parts would be more difficult to find. Maybe even that you can't find a complete suit of the better ones, just the parts. The Raider's suit looks to have Raider style components too.
Edit: actually the raiders wearing power armour appear multiple times, so maybe Power Armour is common. Or rather common among high level Raiders and boss encounters (there's concept art of multiple types of that Raider power armour).
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Wyrmalla wrote: Some Ghouls are missing limbs. Another mod from Fallout 3.
There's a Raider Veteran wearing power armour. I suppose then that it won't be so tough to get a hold of the older suits, but the better parts would be more difficult to find. Maybe even that you can't find a complete suit of the better ones, just the parts. The Raider's suit looks to have Raider style components too.
Oooo... I hope we can really customize our power armor. Not just the parts/paint scheme but all the decorative bits too.
Man, I can sense a lot of replayability already, just from choosing different sides in quests hoping for a unique PA bit.
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bittersashes wrote:One guy down at my gaming club swore he saw an objective flag take out a full unit of Bane Thralls.
Looks like you wearing Power Armour over your existing outfit. As in like the Recon Armour in 3 was actually just the plug suit for T-45d power armour. In that case perhaps you don't pick up a whole suit of power armour and stick it into your inventory, rather you walk about in it and when you're done you take it off and just leave it where it stands. Explains why they've gotten the scale of power armour correct this time around in that it has to actually contain the player character's model rather than being any size it wants (similar to how 40K space marine models are the same size of regular guardsmen. When a marine leaves that suit he'd be losing a few inches).
The minigun overheats as you fire it.
Power armour takes damage based on the location where its hit. Areas are shown to go to red as they take damage, possibly meaning that they drop off or need to be repaired to gain their benefits. Explains the modular system. Perhaps you'll have its of armour that don't give you go good an armour rating, but give you different buffs instead (i.e. tesla armour protecting against energy weapons solely).
Also taken from a mod. Power armour can overheat too.
The airship has a Brotherhood symbol on the side. The name is Prydwen, whatever that means (Pride Wing? Lyons Pride?).
With the building system, as I think was stated, I think you can only build in certain areas. So no just dumping down stuff wherever. If that's the case then I guess mods will fix that, but I'm doubting you can just find any random building and start plunking that down. It'd be sort of unbalanced (i.e. building a wall in the middle of a corridor to stop enemies) and impossible to tune the AI to. Rather if there's set locations then they can determine what will happen beforehand.
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nomotog wrote: I think skills may have been changed. In the menus I have see requirements for science rank 1/2/3 rather then science 10 or something. Other weapons needed gun nut 1 rather then guns 10. Maybe there are no skills?
Edit Ok I think I am calling it now. No more skills. Your just going to have perks. That would explain why the perk chart is so bloody huge. If you take all the skill effects and put them into perks then you would have a ton of perks.
Todd does say that certain items can only be crafted through perks. That was the case in Skyrim, however it seemed odd he didn't say "only crafted at a certain skill level". =P
And that's my thought dump on what I saw then. I'll wait for some high res screen caps to come out then get to making some more minis.
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A synth, perhaps a android that's gone rogue, or one that's just been tossed out because it was faulty.
Aye looking at it now that scene resembles the one from 3 where you blow up Megaton a lot. There's a controller or something in the left hand side of the screen just before the nuke goes off.
Around 0:34, you can see the synth assaulter's face being blown off, revealing the robot underneath, pretty cool, IMO.
Automatically Appended Next Post: The crit system seem to have changed as well, looks like it's a bar you build up and then activate while fireing in VATS.
Automatically Appended Next Post: It's hard to tell for sure, but it looks like most of the smaller building have interiors, and aren't just painted boxs. Probably fun for stealthing.
Automatically Appended Next Post: And that PA ui... It's delicious.
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kronk wrote: Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote: Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
BaronIveagh wrote: Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
Honestly my enthusiasm for the games themselves has been somewhat dampened by my natural cynicism in relation to the Bethesda.net thing.
It just seems like every time a game company comes out with some proprietary network/installer/fancified web app thingy they present it as some big boon for the customer but the reality is always either an attempt to Orwell up the place and claw back control over how people interact with the product(usually in ways calculated to make you spend more money) or some bug-ridden shambles of a pseudo-DRM system that just gets in the way of playing.
We've already had Steam try to transform the modding community for games into a DLC/microtransaction-acceptance training programme this year, I really hope Bethesda aren't about to try something along those lines.
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CthuluIsSpy wrote: Any word on skills?
Will they be bringing back big guns?
The current theory is no skills. That they have been replaced with more perks and more ump in the SPICAL stats. It's really blowing up the official forms with the expected comments about dumeing down and console something. I think I would miss the easy advancement that comes with skills. You know you can stick a few points into guns to level your damage. Without that, your not going to level you damage unless you invest a perk and that is kind of a high cost. (I think that is why the crafting has so many out right upgrades in it. It's a replacement for the damage scaling lost by removing skills.)
Amazon doesn't seem to be selling the Pip-Boy Edition outside of the US. Weird, other retailers are. I've looked at its contents and mostly the bonuses are just the Pip-Boy (its listed as three separate items and the other two items are paraphernalia). The only thing in there not Pip-Boy related is the perk tree poster. So its not like the New Vegas collector's edition which had loads of random stuff in there, they're just going for one big thing. Pity, I would have been interested if they had thrown in a load of random crap, but it seems that they may sell the concept art book separately this time around.
Aye I'll pick it up at whatever retailer's offering the most interesting addon thing. If there's a second collector's edition thing then I'll look into that, but I was actually that interested in the Pip-Boy. If it were an actual working one yes (with working dials I mean), but its just a shell that houses your phone.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Skyrim was largely perk based too mind. The skills were just there to advance you through the perks. Take away the skills, but still charge for that advancement? Fair enough, just as long as you can't jump to the end of a perk tree or whatever too quickly. See the skills also limited how fast you progressed in one area, so you'd either have to keep your perk points back till a time that you could use them, or start spending them in another area. I assume that some perks will have perquisites, so if you want the super duper strength one you either need a certain other perk (doubt it), or just need to be say level 30. Pft, as long as they aren't cheap about them in the beginning and give you enough to be functional I'm fine with this. Its an interesting system, and I guess represents say a guy who knows things about computers doesn't also know all about medicine (which are both under the same skill). However it also may mean having to invest multiple perk points in order to maybe successfully hack something (which previously was determined by your skill level, but maybe they'll either give you just one perk point, or a couple that give buffs to your existing chance of success).
Ah, and again I can see a lot of ideas being taken from certain mods with this. =P
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If the story telling is half as well done as New Vegas, you'll be able to decide to side with or fight against the BoS, so the shots of the player fighting with or against them in the video make sense. You could also have a rogue faction of them somewhat similar to what you had in New Vegas.
Trying to find a image dump of what was shown at E3. Most sites just have the same dozen images, but I'm wanting something that shows every separate piece of concept art and different scene. I'm probably going to have to just watch a HD version of that conference if I want that though. =/
Edit: Whilst not comprehensive, here's a decent amount of images from what was shown. It has most of the concept art ones, but doesn't cover all of the in-game stuff (which obviously would be harder to do.
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