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Hunting Rifle.
Cowboy Repeater.
Marksman Rifle.
Assault Carbine.
Riot Shotgun.
Hunting Shotgun.
The .45 Auto SMG (Thompson).

I hope at least some of these return.

I've barely touched the Big Guns or Energy Weapons.

I'd be really happy if That Gun is in it again.

Though I'll be pleased as punch if both leather armour and the sawn-off shotgun are in again.

Got my Nexus Mod Manager up and running again (installed it months ago for Skyrim but never got round to playing it)...and now I'm starting to get carried away.

Installing the ShoddyCast Storyteller mod now.

 BrookM wrote:
I'd be really happy if That Gun is in it again.

Though I'll be pleased as punch if both leather armour and the sawn-off shotgun are in again.

"That Gun" was in because it was Obsidian that made NV, made up of some of the people who made the original Fallout games that also featured it. Will Bethesda offer such fan service? I don't know. Bethesda's idea of offering fan service was to try to cram everything they could into a setting on the other side of the USA from the original games with stuff that was really only found in the region the original games took place in. You don't need to have Super Mutants, Brotherhood of Steel, The Enclave, Harold, etc., to make it a Fallout game. But Bethesda relied on those crutches too heavily. Hopefully they don't rely as much on them this time around and actually try to create something new.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
I'd be really happy if That Gun is in it again.

Though I'll be pleased as punch if both leather armour and the sawn-off shotgun are in again.

"That Gun" was in because it was Obsidian that made NV, made up of some of the people who made the original Fallout games that also featured it. Will Bethesda offer such fan service? I don't know. Bethesda's idea of offering fan service was to try to cram everything they could into a setting on the other side of the USA from the original games with stuff that was really only found in the region the original games took place in. You don't need to have Super Mutants, Brotherhood of Steel, The Enclave, Harold, etc., to make it a Fallout game. But Bethesda relied on those crutches too heavily. Hopefully they don't rely as much on them this time around and actually try to create something new.

While I agree in general, I think Bethesda did the right thing by cramming a lot of Fallout 1/2 factions, characters, and items in the game. It helped tie Fallout 3 to the original two When you're rebooting a franchise, you need to connect it to the past. Hopefully, they will feel free to explore new territory in Fallout 4.

4's having Fallout 3's weapons return, at least some of them. I wouldn't expect to see the majority be there of course and I doubt New Vegas' weapons will be included by and large. However that means we'll see a load of new ones which'll fill in the same roles (because in the real world we don't just a single shotgun or a single assault rifle used the world over). If its really such a problem for people who are attached to specific weapons then just wait for a mod to come out that includes them. Hell Skyrim has a mod which adds in Morrowind's and Oblivion's weapons... (so great finding a Kvatch Shield at one point).

Kvatch had a nice emblem. It would be like a friendly face in Skyrim to see it again. I'm all for seeing some new weapons, but having some of the older guns make a return would be nice.

I really hope they have the anti-materiel rifle. It's so fun to blow off deathclaw heads from 400m.

Deleted - off topic. Will post in What are you playing now? instead.

 Wyrmalla wrote:
4's having Fallout 3's weapons return, at least some of them. I wouldn't expect to see the majority be there of course and I doubt New Vegas' weapons will be included by and large. However that means we'll see a load of new ones which'll fill in the same roles (because in the real world we don't just a single shotgun or a single assault rifle used the world over). If its really such a problem for people who are attached to specific weapons then just wait for a mod to come out that includes them. Hell Skyrim has a mod which adds in Morrowind's and Oblivion's weapons... (so great finding a Kvatch Shield at one point).

Honestly I'm just hoping they explain the energy weapons. I always liked how, in the first two games, Energy weapons weren't an early game weapon. They were rare late-mid to late game weapons that annihilated opponents and had a goofy retro design to them whilst 3 opted for semi-practical ramshackle aesthetics while designing them to be usable even from earlier on in the game. I know why but I was a sucker for the old school energy weapons.

Also I'm happy it seems that they are bringing back a bit of the looks of the old school power armor. It's not quite the same but I don't mind. I just prefer it over the Enclave armor in Fallout 3

Hmmm, 400 hours of play?

Pretty sure I have played Fallout 3 that much....

The Auld Grump

But how deep and involved will that 400 hours be? I put 105 hours into the The Witcher 3, and not one moment of it felt like filler or grind and everything seemed new and different. In contrast, I've put 228 hours into Skyrim, haven't finished the game yet (started over about halfway through to try different playstyle along with the additions of the expansions and lots of mods), but a lot of it has felt like grind (leveling up skills) and filler (particularly with Bethesda's copy-paste dungeon/cave designs).

Shoot, in Skyrim, I clock in almost 100 hours before I arrive at Whiterun for the first time. With the LAL mod, I don't start the game at Helgen, I start... elsewhere.

Anyone ever feel that sandbox games are too axpansive sometimes?

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Anyone ever feel that sandbox games are too axpansive sometimes?

No.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Anyone ever feel that sandbox games are too axpansive sometimes?

No, not really. Most end up feeling too small to me.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Anyone ever feel that sandbox games are too axpansive sometimes?

Not at all.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Anyone ever feel that sandbox games are too axpansive sometimes?

A bit. Being level 35/40+ in Fallout:New Vegas means you have the best equipment and godlike powers...there's not much point in exploring anymore.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Anyone ever feel that sandbox games are too axpansive sometimes?

No, not really. Most end up feeling too small to me.

Same here. It just feels off when you cross a country in 15 minutes...When a thriving metropolis seems to have about two dozen citizens.
Witcher 3 being the notable exception so far.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Anyone ever feel that sandbox games are too axpansive sometimes?

Quite the reverse. Sandbox games in general are too shallow and restrictive.

 BrookM wrote:
I'd be really happy if That Gun is in it again.

Though I'll be pleased as punch if both leather armour and the sawn-off shotgun are in again.

You mean the .223 pistol

Good times.

Leather Armor has been a Fallout standard since the very first game.

 Psienesis wrote:
Leather Armor has been a Fallout standard since the very first game.

More like pussy armor! Real men wear POWER ARMOR. BECAUSE POWER.

Power Armor? What, are you afraid of bullets?

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:
Leather Armor has been a Fallout standard since the very first game.

More like pussy armor! Real men wear POWER ARMOR. BECAUSE POWER.

Lies. Real men wear no armor, and use their manly 10 Endurance to deflect bullets with their pecs.
Power Armor encourages weakness. Conan would disapprove.

 Psienesis wrote:
Power Armor? What, are you afraid of bullets?

Bullets? Hah! More like rain drops hailing down on my shiny metal butt. Plus all of my implants run without the need of an external power source thanks to glorious steel! In-built energy shield that repels melee attackers? CHECK. EMP attacks at will? CHECK. Flame burst at will? CHECK. Run faster, lift harder, hit harder, immune to radiation, collect ALL THE THINGS without ever being overburdened? CHECKCHECKCHECK.

...plus you look like a total badass...and somehow still sneak as quiet as a mouse...uhm...

So, do you guys think there will be something similar to the NCR Ranger Armor in Fallout 4?

Because I will preorder right now if there is.

 Kanluwen wrote:
So, do you guys think there will be something similar to the NCR Ranger Armor in Fallout 4?

Because I will preorder right now if there is.

If you play on pc, its only a matter of time till someone mods it in.

Would not suspect that Bethesda would step on Obsidian's toes including Legion or NCR stuffs into the game. It's possible, I'd bet against it.

I'll take the words "it just works" literally, that is all I'll hope for in 4.

No way they'll do a better job than Obsidian's next west coast. Interacting with 'bandits' rather than just fighting would be neat. Something Obsidian will have a harder time avoiding with a short dev window and the fact the NCR gets killy too easy. The legion has so much potential. Obsidian needs to work on the gangs more, alot of their enemies feel tacked on, just there. No interaction between the main and lesser gangs was the weakest spot while walking Nevada. Hot spots with no connections, unless the Legion was involved.

My guess is Hawaii, Guam and other islands are the biggest bases the Enclave maintain.

The NCR Ranger Combat Armor is something that was available to the LAPD, so I would imagine it could be a nationwide thing...