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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

Still only about 10 hours in, but having fun so far. The gunplay is SO GOOD as is the modding system. My only real complaint is finding adhesive is difficult

It can be crafted as Vegetable Starch at a cooking station using purified water, corn, tatos and mutfruit. All of which are renewable resources that can be grown or manufactured using settlements. The water and food needs of a settlements residents are prioritized, but any excess is deposited into the settlements' workshops once per day or so.

Set up water purifiers on bodies of water. I cram as many as I can into the river at Sanctuary Hills.
And assign settlers to farm the crops.
Tatos can be found at Abernathy Farm (Southeast of Red Rocket).
Corn and Mutfruit can be found at Graygarden, north of Oberland across the railway bridge and up the hill (you can't miss it, its a Greenhouse manned by handyman robots).

Yeah I know about Starch, I've just not got a huge supply of Corn and no Mutfruit. Haven't managed to make my way over to Grey Garden yet.

So I've done the quest where Paladin Danse and I went to grab a transmitter. Got the unique laser rifle. It's pretty nice. I used it to kill my 1st legendary. It was a Ghoul who was on the ground. I managed to empty most of a clip into him before he was even up.

If your settlements are constantly getting attacked, make sure the settlements defense is greater than the sum of its water + food. That's one of those loading screen tips that I randomly got one time and went "holy crap, why didn't you tell me that?"

I'm flicking through the Art of Fallout 4 book, which is friggin excellent...And found Waldo. Bethesda put a Where's Waldo? ester egg in their Art Book.

So uh... I killed Covenant. Is that bad? I think that's bad


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 streamdragon wrote:
If your settlements are constantly getting attacked, make sure the settlements defense is greater than the sum of its water + food. That's one of those loading screen tips that I randomly got one time and went "holy crap, why didn't you tell me that?"

I never get mine attacked. I'm sad because I want to try and defend one

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
So uh... I killed Covenant. Is that bad? I think that's bad

They're all hostile to me, but alive. I've decided it's best to never visit again. I also gave the nearby settlement extra protection and equipment because it felt like the right thing to do.

But man, I really wish they let you make Covenant's concrete walls, I'd use them everywhere. I hope somewhere down the line Bethesda will make that an option, along with a lot of other stuff, like ammo, med and explosives containers.

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
So uh... I killed Covenant. Is that bad? I think that's bad

Depends on your attitude to Synths.

Finally got into it last night! I ran into a firefight in the museum of history involving some raiders and a guy sniping them with a laser rifle. Took out the raiders pretty easily, but I died a half dozen times. I could not figure out how they kept coming back to life. Finally, I realized I could speak to them instead of trying to slaughter them.


The Minutemen and I did not get off to a great start.
Lol

You attacked the minuteman?

I won't blame gitz. I've wanted to kill a few of them on more than one occasion.
Mama Murphey gets on my last nerve along with that "I should have done more" emo guy. If I could put them both in a permanent grave and get away with it I would.

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
I won't blame gitz. I've wanted to kill a few of them on more than one occasion.
Mama Murphey gets on my last nerve along with that "I should have done more" emo guy. If I could put them both in a permanent grave and get away with it I would.

I wish that, since Mama Murphy keeps asking for Chems, that just once, Preston is right, when you give her chems she ends up dead

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
I won't blame gitz. I've wanted to kill a few of them on more than one occasion.
Mama Murphey gets on my last nerve along with that "I should have done more" emo guy. If I could put them both in a permanent grave and get away with it I would.

I wish that, since Mama Murphy keeps asking for Chems, that just once, Preston is right, when you give her chems she ends up dead

So, I got FO4 for Christmas, and I've put a good few hours into it - it's taken me ages to get used to the combat, compared to the more static FO3 / New vegas combat, but I'm enjoying the settlement-building.

I've turned the Starlight outdoor cinema into a lovely little eden, though my most advanced settlement is still Sanctuary.

Last time I was playing, I tried the "Taking Independence" quest, where you take the castle with the minutemen. Unlucky for me, a ledgendary mirelurk spawned, which was way above my character's level (Had the skull icon above the health bar)
Took a lot of running away, and the deaths of the non-immortal minutemen, but I finally brought it down... and then the queen showed up. I died. Badly.
So now I'm putzing around hunting for copper and gears, clearing settlements but leaving them empty for now. Took out a deathclaw last night, which was both terrifying and amusing (I was standing on a roof, and it couldn't get to the stairs)

I have Piper following me around with a souped up 10mm Auto, while I'm focusing more on sniping, though my auto pipe rifle has saved my backside more than once!

All in all, I'm enjoying it very much!

 Gitzbitah wrote:
Finally got into it last night! I ran into a firefight in the museum of history involving some raiders and a guy sniping them with a laser rifle. Took out the raiders pretty easily, but I died a half dozen times. I could not figure out how they kept coming back to life. Finally, I realized I could speak to them instead of trying to slaughter them.


The Minutemen and I did not get off to a great start.
Lol

And that is why Beth's fetish for essential characters is nonsense.
I should kill who ever I please. Will it break a quest? Certainly. But that's why you have multiple endings and ways to solve a quest.

Just bought the game, running with the Brotherhood. I got to the point where I need to power the signal interceptor. I just need to grind enough XP to get to level 20 and unlock the SCIENCE! perk.
What's the best way to grind XP?

Idiot savant can help ya level up pretty quickly

otherwise literally doing everything like settlements, crafting and killing waves upon waves of raiders.

that and doing quests and side quests nets exp to.

IS is incredibly overpowered. Since it potentially boosts EVERYTHING, it can also boost quest rewards...resulting in 2-3 level gains even at mid level. It really is a perk worth investing in and as another bonus, you now have 2 dump stats instead of just one.

If you really want to get XP quickly, go low Intelligence, take IS and cheese it by saving/reloading before getting each mission reward.

The repeatable quests are usually pretty fast and give decent XP. If you like Brotherhood do Captain Kells "bring a kid to battlefield day" quests.
You can also do the quartermasters Supplies quests but if you are planning on building up your own settlements I would avoid it. There is a bug that makes the brotherhood take over the settlement and you can not build there anymore in some settlements (not all).

Building in settlements give a nice small chunck of xp too. cant tell you how many times I have leveled up from just planting food.
As mentioned above, have settlements grow corn, mutfruit, and tato. Have as many water purifiers going in sanctuary river as you can afford. This gives you all the materials you need to make Starch at the chem station.(cooking station? one or the other) Making starch grants both small amounts of xp and Adhesive. use adhesive to mod weapons and armor. moding weapons and armor grants xp.

TLDR... Do anything

Woh woh woh vegi starch counts as adhesive?

i was not aware.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Gitzbitah wrote:
Finally got into it last night! I ran into a firefight in the museum of history involving some raiders and a guy sniping them with a laser rifle. Took out the raiders pretty easily, but I died a half dozen times. I could not figure out how they kept coming back to life. Finally, I realized I could speak to them instead of trying to slaughter them.


The Minutemen and I did not get off to a great start.
Lol

And that is why Beth's fetish for essential characters is nonsense.
I should kill who ever I please. Will it break a quest? Certainly. But that's why you have multiple endings and ways to solve a quest.

To be honest, all Beth really needs to add is a setting at the start of the game that removes all essentials tags from NPCs for that playthrough, like how Hardcore mode was an option in F:NV.


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 Desubot wrote:
Woh woh woh vegi starch counts as adhesive?

i was not aware.

Yes, 1 starch = 5 adhesive IIRC.

They'll have to work on their engine and scripting then. Someone did a no-kill (as in they didn't kill anybody personally, as opposed to pacifist, which you aren't able to do in 4) and the game shat it'self in places where it wasn't expecting you to use the calming perks and stuff.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
And that is why Beth's fetish for essential characters is nonsense.
I should kill who ever I please. Will it break a quest? Certainly. But that's why you have multiple endings and ways to solve a quest.

If they did that then any traveling NPC could die from a roaming Yao Guai or anything else. Also, Fallout 4 has lower HP than Fallout 3 or New Vegas, it's a higher mortality game like other FPSs so immortal companions are basically a must have. This isn't some turn based isometric RPG, though I'm sure a few people wish it was.

So how would you remedy important NPCs getting killed by things completely out of your control? Sit them down in a safe place and never move? Make it so only the player can kill them? Let them die?

There's some guy I was to give Giddyup Buttercup parts to, reward conversation stopped because Super Mutants attacked and he got blown up by a Suicider who attacked through the walls and killed the guy. Wow, such immersion, I sure wish this could happen to all quest givers. /sarcasm

 Lotet wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
And that is why Beth's fetish for essential characters is nonsense.
I should kill who ever I please. Will it break a quest? Certainly. But that's why you have multiple endings and ways to solve a quest.

If they did that then any traveling NPC could die from a roaming Yao Guai or anything else. Also, Fallout 4 has lower HP than Fallout 3 or New Vegas, it's a higher mortality game like other FPSs so immortal companions are basically a must have. This isn't some turn based isometric RPG, though I'm sure a few people wish it was.

So how would you remedy important NPCs getting killed by things completely out of your control? Sit them down in a safe place and never move? Make it so only the player can kill them? Let them die?

There's some guy I was to give Giddyup Buttercup parts to, reward conversation stopped because Super Mutants attacked and he got blown up by a Suicider who attacked through the walls and killed the guy. Wow, such immersion, I sure wish this could happen to all quest givers. /sarcasm

It's a very simple solution. Make it so they can only be killed by the PC. It's not complicated.

 Lotet wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
And that is why Beth's fetish for essential characters is nonsense.
I should kill who ever I please. Will it break a quest? Certainly. But that's why you have multiple endings and ways to solve a quest.

If they did that then any traveling NPC could die from a roaming Yao Guai or anything else. Also, Fallout 4 has lower HP than Fallout 3 or New Vegas, it's a higher mortality game like other FPSs so immortal companions are basically a must have. This isn't some turn based isometric RPG, though I'm sure a few people wish it was.

So how would you remedy important NPCs getting killed by things completely out of your control? Sit them down in a safe place and never move? Make it so only the player can kill them? Let them die?

There's some guy I was to give Giddyup Buttercup parts to, reward conversation stopped because Super Mutants attacked and he got blown up by a Suicider who attacked through the walls and killed the guy. Wow, such immersion, I sure wish this could happen to all quest givers. /sarcasm

That is why you have multiple ways to solve a quest.
Or, here's a thought, don't put the NPC someplace where he'll get killed.

 Verviedi wrote:
Just bought the game, running with the Brotherhood. I got to the point where I need to power the signal interceptor. I just need to grind enough XP to get to level 20 and unlock the SCIENCE! perk.
What's the best way to grind XP?

Crafting and building Settlements.

Collect EVERYTHING at every location you visit, every last bit of scrap, and make multiple travels back to base to store it. And then when you've built up a large stockpile, go nuts and build lots of stuff in your settlement.


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I downloaded a mod that gives linear XP levelling, rather than exponential. So even at high levels, I'll still be levelling up very fast.

Or at least, thats how its supposed to work. All my mods today seemed to inexplicably deactivate, and I had to go through NMM and reactivate them all. My save file seems to still work though.

Also remember that settlements junk inventories are not shared so when you find a new one you can pilfer all of the junk for your main settlement if you want.

I just link all of the settlements across the map in one big continuous ring of supply lines, so the junk is shared and I can build wherever I like. Starting at Sanctuary, the ring splits at Red Rocket heading towards Abernathy Farm and Starlight Drive In. And then the supply lines work their way round the map and meet up again somewhere near Boston harbour.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Lotet wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
And that is why Beth's fetish for essential characters is nonsense.
I should kill who ever I please. Will it break a quest? Certainly. But that's why you have multiple endings and ways to solve a quest.

If they did that then any traveling NPC could die from a roaming Yao Guai or anything else. Also, Fallout 4 has lower HP than Fallout 3 or New Vegas, it's a higher mortality game like other FPSs so immortal companions are basically a must have. This isn't some turn based isometric RPG, though I'm sure a few people wish it was.

So how would you remedy important NPCs getting killed by things completely out of your control? Sit them down in a safe place and never move? Make it so only the player can kill them? Let them die?

There's some guy I was to give Giddyup Buttercup parts to, reward conversation stopped because Super Mutants attacked and he got blown up by a Suicider who attacked through the walls and killed the guy. Wow, such immersion, I sure wish this could happen to all quest givers. /sarcasm

That is why you have multiple ways to solve a quest.
Or, here's a thought, don't put the NPC someplace where he'll get killed.

Neither of those are fixes. The former forces you to solve the quest a different way through no fault of your own--which would be different if you purposefully did it--and assumes you're fine with it. It's like asking for a Coke and getting a Pepsi without being asked if it's alright with you. The latter requires all critical NPCs to be put in a safe-room and never leave it under any circumstances, and a lot of times that won't make sense.

Neither the "keep all the essentials tags! nor "take away or the essentials tags!" are viable options; they're each other's opposite extreme. Have them able to be toggled on/off at the start of the play-through and both sides are happy. Hell, if you want, add in a third option that only makes a small handful of really plot-critical characters essential, and dump the tags on the rest including companions.

"I don't want characters to die! Suck it up if you do!" and "I do want characters to die! Suck it up if you don't!" helps nothing, as enacting either one pisses off just as many people as enacting the other. If the player is given the option at the start, they can't complain later on that they want X to not be essential, as they had the ability to remove the tag, similarly for people who killed someone and didn't want to had the option to keep the tag.

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
Also remember that settlements junk inventories are not shared so when you find a new one you can pilfer all of the junk for your main settlement if you want.

That's not entirely true. The junk itself isn't shared, but the components are.
I know, its confused. If the components are shared, you'd expect the junk those components come from would be too.
Yet another mechanic the game does not explain.

If you set up a supply line, all connected settlements will share the Junk and Aid inventories.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
If you set up a supply line, all connected settlements will share the Junk and Aid inventories.

Really? My connected settlements didn't share the junk, just the components.
Like, say you have something like a fuse in settlement A, which has a supply line to settlement B.
If I go to settlement B, I would be able to use the copper from the fuse at settlement A, but that fuse would not be present at settlement B.