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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 09:09:07
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Using Inks and Washes
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Most of my places don't get attacked.
No beacon, just enough food and water for whomever is already there, and two missile turrets usually keeps them safe.
Sanctuary has never been attacked and I don't believe it ever will. 90 food, 40 water and over 300 defence and rising.
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"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes…then all of this…all of this…was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars." Commander sinclair, Babylon 5.
Bobtheinquisitor wrote:what is going on with APAC shipping? If Macross Island were real, they'd be the last place to get any Robotechnology. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 12:43:45
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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My main settlements (the castle, county crossing, sanctuary, a few others) don't get attacked often, if at all, but the drive-in cinema is often attacked, despite being reasonably well defended.
On a related note, I wonder if building settlements, especially with regard to defenses, is something that appeals particularly to wargamer types? Because of the people I know who play FO4, it seems that a fair few (possibly all) have gone: "Building? I don't have time for that", and just charged at the main quest. Maybe that's just because they're not used to playing open world games?
Yet the dakka Fallout 4 crowd seems to have embraced settlements, for the most part. I wonder if there's a particular psychology to wargamers that makes them more likely to build settlements?
Anyway, I'm thinking about re-doing my castle, it's a bit basic, and I've seen some really cool lets-plays/settlement tours that have given me some ideas, but I might turn the drive-in cinema into a proper little city, seeing as it's a big area to build in. Decisions decisions...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 13:45:34
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Using Inks and Washes
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Oh yes, the cinema is third on my list, with Spectacle Island a close fourth. That lovely big screen to build against, the opportunity to have the water supply in the centre of the build, and a large, flat area for a post-apocalyptic shanty town with power supplies and defence emplacements, and a fenced in farm area.
I am not actually a wargamer as such, though. I bought loads of WH40K stuff as models to paint - I'm definitely a modeller not a gamer. I love making things, and FO4 is the first time I have really been allowed to do so in a fallout game. I am trying to do everything within the basic game engine though, no console commands, no mods. Everything I have posted pictures of has been in the vanilla game and I presume that means that anyone can re-create anything I have done whether they are on Console or PC.
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"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes…then all of this…all of this…was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars." Commander sinclair, Babylon 5.
Bobtheinquisitor wrote:what is going on with APAC shipping? If Macross Island were real, they'd be the last place to get any Robotechnology. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 17:20:23
Subject: Re:Fallout 4 Announced
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 17:43:27
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Building robots and having caged deathclaws sounds fun but I'm hoping they have a LOT more building options on the aesthetics side. Too many pieces of the world would make great additions to settlements, which the modders already did something about.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 18:35:54
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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25€, so about 30$, for a single DLC?
...they gotta be kidding. The main game itself costs about 35ish€ right now and a lot extremely good indie titles are available for less.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 19:18:08
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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It is a tad expensive, especially after only a few months.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 20:06:32
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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It's worse as the first two smaller DLCs (that are still about 50% too expensive) are basically mod quality that get sold as DLC. I laughed when I read "taxidermy" as, I bet, this will simply mean still monsters, frozen in any sort of animation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 22:06:40
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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I bought the season pass so, lucky me.
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Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 22:42:18
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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From what I read, they're keeping the price in place until March 1st then it goes up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 23:57:10
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Lord of the Fleet
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Might be a good idea for you guys to buy now, then, since the season pass promises *all* Fallout 4 DLC for $30.
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Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/17 07:34:10
Subject: Re:Fallout 4 Announced
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/17 14:10:02
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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BaronIveagh wrote:Might be a good idea for you guys to buy now, then, since the season pass promises *all* Fallout 4 DLC for $30.
Ehh, even then it's only the equivalent of hqlf off. I'm just going to wait until I can buy them dirt cheap on sale.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/17 14:15:57
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Fixture of Dakka
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Getting a serious Innsmouth vibe from the Far Harbor pictures...
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"The Omnissiah is my Moderati" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/17 14:52:03
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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They look pretty awesome - I'm less interested in the Far Harbour one, but robots and more building stuff, yes please!
Not too happy about the price tag though...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/17 14:58:11
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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The price tags on those do seem unreasonably high considering they don't appear to be much more than professional mods, at least from the description. And where is the GECK/crearion kit?
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/17 15:08:30
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I can agree with the hypothesis about Wargamers and Settlements. I've just spent about three hours working on my Starlight City. Got distracted by the Vault 81 symbol on my compass and walked away from Dogmeat in the middle of the Reunions quest.
Who is this Shaun guy again?
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/17 15:13:23
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Using Inks and Washes
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Not having finished the game, and not having heard anything, I'm thinking he's a LOT older than the character is looking for.
Sort of 'Luke Skywalker telling Darth Vader "I am your Father" ' older.
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"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes…then all of this…all of this…was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars." Commander sinclair, Babylon 5.
Bobtheinquisitor wrote:what is going on with APAC shipping? If Macross Island were real, they'd be the last place to get any Robotechnology. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/18 00:02:22
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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I don't know how he got up there, but Preston is stuck up on the roof of a house in Sanctuary and he's refusing to come down. I think he's on strike, said something about not helping enough settlements.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/18 00:07:47
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:I don't know how he got up there, but Preston is stuck up on the roof of a house in Sanctuary and he's refusing to come down. I think he's on strike, said something about not helping enough settlements.

That happened to me with one of Carla's Brahmin back in November:
Walking out of that house and seeing that on the roof out of the corner of your eye gives you a bit of a jump.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/18 00:17:55
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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I have had Preston on the roof of a driveway before, I found the only way to get him off (other than leaving him to "find" a way down by himself) was to build a set of stairs and add a floor to the top of that at the right height and position for someone to step off the roof on to the floor. Then shepherd him onto the floor by walking into him repeatedly. Then remove the floor once he's stood on it rather than wait for him to either walk down the stairs or back on to the roof.
I also had my settlement's Brahmin appear (where it comes from, I don't know. It just appeared one day) on the roof of one of the houses. I built a feed trough nearby and a stairs up to the roof and then waited for it to take the hint. As soon as it walked on to the stairs, I removed it so it could't change it's mind.
I've had Carla's Brahmin sitting on a table INSIDE one of my houses. She really needs to train that thing better.
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Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/18 00:20:14
Subject: Re:Fallout 4 Announced
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/18 00:41:59
Subject: Re:Fallout 4 Announced
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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I'm sure if you shot at him enough he'd come down...
Look at it, it even has it's legs tucked up, it's laying on a table!
I actually shouted "Carla!" when I saw it.
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/18 00:47:14
Subject: Re:Fallout 4 Announced
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If I fits, I sits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/21 21:18:33
Subject: Re:Fallout 4 Announced
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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^ I did lol
Quick status report:
I've now passed level 60
I've visited all areas of the map (but I'm sure there are more marked and unmarked locations to find, and I've still avoided Diamond city)
I have over 1000 Stimpacks (I only use them when I'm crippled)
and I've just started the railroad questline; still doing mainly "go here and fetch/do something" quests while also doing the same for the BoS. Although I have done some useful quests for the railroad which can't be said for the BoS (I'm assuming more little quests need to be done first).
I had to laugh when meeting the railroad for the first time:
"Why are you here?"
Me: "just scavenging"
"Then how did you manage to guess the correct password for the hidden door?"
Me (in real life): *nearly shouting* "What do you expect when you choose such an obvious password! It's no wonder your previous base was wiped out. Hidden bases rarely have signs to show where they are... You know what happens when they do? Look at your previous base."
Puts me in mind of Spaceballs though: "12345 ... that's the kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage"
I finally got bored of not being able to sort my weapons and armour stored in the workshop by "type" and have moved the thousands and thousands of them into separate boxes; guns (mostly) by ammo type, armour by type, and clothing into headgear, body (no defence stat) and body (with a stat or more).
I was interested to find that I have:
Over 1000lb of Synth armour
Nearly 3000lb of Combat armour
Over 3500lb of Metal armour
Over 6000lb of Raider and Leather armour each...
It's nice that all that fits into a few boxes.
Now that I have access to ballistic weave, I can now think about how I want this character to look, rather than just wearing the "best" armour available.
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/21 22:46:57
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Ballistic weave is great, isn't it? I also managed to get hold of a load of Railroad "Heavy" armour, which is awesome - it's the stuff Glory wears. I gave some to Cait, but my Character stuck with fully-upgraded weave military fatigues, and my combat armour of bonus stat goodness. Plus one of the militia hats with the tied-up brim, on account of them being superbly cool.
If we're doing status updates, I'm sitting in the low 70's, level-wise, and I just finished a long sweep through the Glowing Sea, which is a really awesome place to explore, if you have the right gear. Killed 2 albino deathclaws, for no damage, but nearly died to a swarm of high-level bloodbugs... typical!
My Sanctuary finally got attacked by the Gunners, and I realized how appallingly porous my defenses were. I'm not too worried by that, seeing as it was my first try, but it took me a good few hours with the rug glitch to get it to a point where it's not possible to just walk around the defences. Now it needs furnishing, and the settlers need arming properly, but it's defensible now, at least.
I also completed blind betrayal - if you know what that means, you'll understand when I say that I refused to kill, and my charisma stat paid off.
I also decided that as soon as I can, I'm taking the BoS down. Complete change from where I started from, but I'd rather side with the institute than them. So it'll be a pro Railroad/Minutemen endgame, I'm thinking.
Out of interest, has anyone done a melee playthrough? I only wonder because it seems like a very self-limiting move, or am I mistaken?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/22 02:13:02
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Dark Apostle 666 wrote:Out of interest, has anyone done a melee playthrough? I only wonder because it seems like a very self-limiting move, or am I mistaken?
It is limiting, I went about 20 levels with melee and a pipe rifle for things like suiciders. There were a lot of really bad situations. One of the big changes from the previous games is that the AI is content with throwing grenades, molotovs and bullets in the last area they saw you, so you can't lure them to your cover by hiding any more. Plus ghouls give rad damage and it's near impossible to beat them back without taking a lot of rad poisoning. Plus the gunplay is much better, so I'm happy to use them.
I find melee is only a good choice in cramped interiors. Of course, you could use a shotgun instead.
Or you could just play a Ninja making V.A.T.S Blitz stealth attacks. I didn't, not at the start anyway. I just tried to up my defense, health, attack, smithing and armouring.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/22 10:18:17
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Has the performance issues been fixed yet? I'm not touching it until those technical issues have been sorted out.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/23 00:13:59
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Level 93, I'm permanently in Power Armour at this point. God I love Flames X-01.
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40K - 2000pts
HH - 3000pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/23 09:06:31
Subject: Fallout 4 Announced
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Using Inks and Washes
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Level 71 and got my first suit of X-01 last night. On the roof of tower 35, complete full suit of Mk3, which immediately got maxed out and red flames. This was shortly after getting an almost full suit in an abandoned shack down in the glowing sea. So now all I need is a right arm and leg and I have the two full suits I want for my armour museum in Sanctuary.
I have also started customising my settlers in Sanctuary. My male traders are now wearing Tuxedos and Bowlers, the females are in this season's Sequinned dresses - all fitted with maxed Ballistic fibre. The farmers will be outfitted with some sort of overall. Everyone in the Castle is going to get the Minutemen treatment. Haven't decided what sort of weapons to give everyone yet. Not a fan of giving the traders tommy guns, but decent maxed assault rifles might be good. Maxed combat shotguns for the farmers I think.
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"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes…then all of this…all of this…was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars." Commander sinclair, Babylon 5.
Bobtheinquisitor wrote:what is going on with APAC shipping? If Macross Island were real, they'd be the last place to get any Robotechnology. |
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