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 Talizvar wrote:

jaymz wrote:
I will gladly accompany you and record it to boot Tal

Ooooh! Can I have the little blacked-out rectangle over my eyes to preserve my anonymity?

I cant edit but my daughter might.

In keeping with tradition, it shouldn't be a single black bar, but a bar clearly made up of dozens of other bars.

Hollow rectangle. On the bottom of the screen put "Rest of bar to be delivered in 2013201420152016".

 Cypher-xv wrote:
Now jeffer and Tom Roach will warn their God. Be careful you don't get kicked out Talisvar.

I'm not sure what my religious beliefs have to do with this thread. I know they certainly have nothing to do with this Kickstarter or Palladium Books.

You think you could play dumb more convincingly.

Well, THEY have MY money and a reasonable query on how long one is to endure waiting before a product is sent since it has been TWO YEARS since the estimated delivery date and ONE YEAR of no meaningful updates of WAVE TWO progress. Since they are so certain of NO REFUNDS they only other option is delivery or a full disclosure failure (sorry, option 3 is to promise delivery FOREVER). Never mind the kickstarter IS NOT A STORE has been debunked in regards to rewards.

Yep, think I have it all covered.

I found this thread on Warseer of someone actually painting stuff! Gasp!

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?416847-Comission-Robotech

Wait, commission? Someone is being paid to paint Robotech. So someone is spending *more* money to get Robotech painted!

Looks good, tho.

In case some of you want this.

https://www.hlj.com/product/BANN05211/Act

It's hell of expensive, but if you MUST have a MACII, then yeah. And since this is Bandai, we're almost certainly going to get it when the release date comes around.

UPDATE!

Short version, blurry postage stamp (233x303 pixel) of a metal cast of the SDF1 resin, that was sculpted a long time ago, and they forgot to show backers.

Also, SOME backers are mean, and shouldn't say that Wave 2 is not happening. End of message.

So, there, haterz. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. They're promising that they're working on it, and here's an inferior photo to "prove" it.

If it gets restocked, there's always this..

https://www.hlj.com/product/BAN966791/Sci

1/200 Destroid Monster kit.

yeah, it's nice they show *something*, but at this point I'm suspicious this was A) way back from 2013 and hasn't been touched then, B) stands the height of a Valkyrie miniature and C) they think they can have it by Adepticon (haven't they learned anything about throwing out dates they have no intention of keeping?)

I really do wonder who did the sculpt - it looks rather plain

 Stormonu wrote:

I really do wonder who did the sculpt - it looks rather plain

The one eyed lowest bidder/fan friend who apparently can only afford an analog motorola flip phone to take pictures.

There's no bar too low that Palladium can't fail to clear.

That picture actually pisses me off even more. The sculpt looks mediocre at best and the resolution is so grainy it makes me think they knew the sculpt was gakky and purposely took it lowres to fool us. I mean, what kind of camera now has THAT as a default resolution

Also, tried looking up the exif data to see when this photo was taken but it's been wiped apparently

Sining wrote:
That picture actually pisses me off even more. The sculpt looks mediocre at best and the resolution is so grainy it makes me think they knew the sculpt was gakky and purposely took it lowres to fool us. I mean, what kind of camera now has THAT as a default resolution

Also, tried looking up the exif data to see when this photo was taken but it's been wiped apparently

Only the best for the valued backers from a modern company like Palladium!

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
If it gets restocked, there's always this..

https://www.hlj.com/product/BAN966791/Sci

1/200 Destroid Monster kit.

I've had that on order since the RRT Kickstarter ended. It's fetch.

Stop trying to make fetch happen. It won't... just like wave 2.

Exactly.

No new information, horribly grainy pic they admit is old and unfinished, number of likes currently 27.
I'd post a slow clap gif, but don't think any of them deserve to be associated with Palladium.

Morgan Vening wrote:
UPDATE!

Short version, blurry postage stamp (233x303 pixel) of a metal cast of the SDF1 resin, that was sculpted a long time ago, and they forgot to show backers.

Also, SOME backers are mean, and shouldn't say that Wave 2 is not happening. End of message.

So, there, haterz. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. They're promising that they're working on it, and here's an inferior photo to "prove" it.

This is what irks me. First, they forgot to show the model of the second most iconic mecha of the series to the fans who bought into this because of the models. Que question: Do they even know their target audience?

Second: If it's done so damn long ago, why hadn't they cast up some of it by now? If they are working so hard, things like resin casting something that's near completion is relatively straight-forward, especially since they have known contacts with good casting companies. I can forgive some of this because in a project, it's easy to get tunnel-visioned and forget about some stuff... but usually, a properly customer-focused company will look for low-hanging fruits to entertain its customers from time to time.

Palladium kept using the phrase "strategic planning" and "many irons in the fire", but I don't think they understand the words that are coming out of their mouths. Someone need to go educate them that:

Strategic planning with no eventual and reasonable translation into operational implementation is useless.

Having many irons in the fire is fething useless if none of them are ever taken out for finishing to completion.

EDIT: The one thing I took in the Update is that somewhere, somehow, the actions of the "haterz" are finally getting through to Palladium that they felt they need to do an update specifically to counter. Even that.. seriously, PB is ran on a delayed reaction mode timer?

Strategic Planning means they are working hard on this new fangled computer game thingy called "Command and Conquer"

And it does not matter how many irons you have in the fire, UNLESS YOU LIGHT THE FIRE!

I invested in that SDF-1 model. For some strange reason I thought it would be great to paint up and make a diorama box for the wall. You know; have a Valk flight wing and a few battlepods in a custom frame with neon coloured lexan rods mounted to simulate laser fire, and a nice printed space background with the battle fortress placed to simulate scale.

Yeah, planned that years ago. Haven't started on the box since I don't know if I'll be alive when they finally release wave 2.

anyone find it odd that their major excuse and that of their white knights on the hold up was getting sculpts approved thru HG, and yet for some reason HG approved this monstrosity that can be barely made out to be the SDF-1 (it is supposed to be the SDF-1 right?).

Yeesh...

Hey, guys. Wayne here.

I know it’s been a while without much info, and I’m sorry about that. Part of it is that I’ve been busy and distracted, but mostly it’s that phone calls and strategy meetings don’t often produce anything for me to show you. I’ll try to do better, but I know I’ve said that before so I don’t want to make any promises.

Oh boy...

It was only recently pointed out to me that you all have never seen the physical piece before. We saw the finished sculpt a long time ago, but frankly, all we at Palladium got to see was a low-resolution photo of the traditionally sculpted piece, with bits of different materials here and there, and some parts missing (because they would later be duplicated in manufacturing). It really wasn’t much to look at, and we didn’t want anyone to get the wrong impression of the final product. I realize that what I’m showing you here isn’t a very good photo either (and even more parts are missing from this pic), and that is partly why I’m trying to get some samples made to photograph. I’ll update you on that as soon as I can.

So...it might be a while?

I also want to say this. Some angry and frustrated backers have decided that Wave Two is never coming, that we’re not working on it, and that we’ve moved on and forgotten about it and you guys. And of course, now that they’ve decided that’s the way things are, they’ve been stating it as fact as loudly and as often as they can. Don’t you believe it. It’s not true at all. I know it is frustrating that we haven’t been able to show you much here lately, but that doesn’t mean there’s nothing going on. We are determined to deliver Wave Two as soon as we can, and we are still working to do just that.

The devil is in those pesky 'details' though, isn't it?

So I finally looked at the "update".
"Underwhelming" barely covers it.
I do have to say it really would have been easier for them to have posted nothing.
Wayne's apologies are at least more straightforward that Kevin's evasive ones.

Useless.
Uninformative.
Offal.

Moving on.

Asterios wrote:
anyone find it odd that their major excuse and that of their white knights on the hold up was getting sculpts approved thru HG, and yet for some reason HG approved this monstrosity that can be barely made out to be the SDF-1 (it is supposed to be the SDF-1 right?).

I think it is safe to say that nobody puts stock in what HG does or expects anything resembling quality from the current "team".
They are a certainly a road block to Palladium getting things done. I believe that HG is even less productive than PB and things probably sit on Yune's desk waiting for him to wake up from his 8 hour daily nap time. Perhaps, under all the doodles of furry versions of Robotech characters that he has strewn across his desk, he might find some approval waiting from Kevin S. and, heck, there's always tomorrow to take a look. Why not pay a visit to McKeever's work space to see what he isn't doing? Then they can scoot on over to Frank Agrama's office togehter and -- in between calls with Frank's lawyers about some foreign criminal activity and political scandals -- they can try to justify to him why he still pays them a salary.

Two awfully sedentary companies compound the problem.

 n815e wrote:

Asterios wrote:
anyone find it odd that their major excuse and that of their white knights on the hold up was getting sculpts approved thru HG, and yet for some reason HG approved this monstrosity that can be barely made out to be the SDF-1 (it is supposed to be the SDF-1 right?).

I think it is safe to say that nobody puts stock in what HG does or expects anything resembling quality from the current "team".
They are a certainly a road block to Palladium getting things done. I believe that HG is even less productive than PB and things probably sit on Yune's desk waiting for him to wake up from his 8 hour daily nap time. Perhaps, under all the doodles of furry versions of Robotech characters that he has strewn across his desk, he might find some approval waiting from Kevin S. and, heck, there's always tomorrow to take a look. Why not pay a visit to McKeever's work space to see what he isn't doing? Then they can scoot on over to Frank Agrama's office togehter and -- in between calls with Frank's lawyers about some foreign criminal activity and political scandals -- they can try to justify to him why he still pays them a salary.

Two awfully sedentary companies compound the problem.

so you are saying HG approved that monstrosity they are calling the SDF-1 in that picture?

Are you claiming that they didn't?

HG also approved the models that we've gotten so far.

 n815e wrote:


so you are saying HG approved that monstrosity they are calling the SDF-1 in that picture?

When it comes to dealing with other folks IP that he's licensed, Kevin wouldn't dare do/show anything without ensuring he was ironclad protected from being sued. So yeah, I'm sure HG approved this featureless, wrong-angled abomination.

Hell, the matchbox SDF-1 from the 80's is far better than this (semi-WIP) piece of shyte.

(Edit - dammit, can't fix the quote, which came from Asterios now)