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2016/07/12 19:48:51
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
I am a bit of a completionist where I want to have the whole game and not have bits missing.
I do not collect just one side of X-wing or Armada or Bolt Action or....
This is why the Wave 2 thing sticks in my craw: I now have to "complete" this game even if PB holds the rights to it.
I think I know a supplier with a "digitizer" so I could put together a 1/100 scale model and then scan it and get a 3D model... hmmm.... just for a "skeleton" to work with of course...
Just a couple models are really messing with my attempts for making them.
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warboss wrote: I've been forced to collect for collecting's sake due to a lack of local interest. Does that count?
Ha!
I feel your pain, this suddenly sprang to mind:
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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte
2016/07/12 20:29:49
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Talizvar wrote: I am a bit of a completionist where I want to have the whole game and not have bits missing.
I do not collect just one side of X-wing or Armada or Bolt Action or....
I like collections, but I am starting to move away from that, in the interest of time, space and expense.
There was a time that I had both Season 2 and Season 3 of Zombicide, with all of their exclusives. I too a look at it, decided I wasn't ever going to play all of it, and sold off pretty much all but the S3 core that I liked. It's a smaller board game, much more manageable.
BTW, have you seen this new Pokemon Go phone game? You should check it out.
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Got these in the mail:
Two cannons broke off, the box looked like it was stepped on and used for soccer (had some extra yellow tape applied, look like it broke).
The join is rather flimsy for the guns so wiring them all seems like a good idea.
The Gnerls look awesome, great detail there.
The UEDF is in big trouble.
I think the Super VT's are the hard counter I will have to show some love next.
All I need now is some sea bass and some lasers.
Everybody sing!
A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte
2016/07/13 06:39:31
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
DEZOAT wrote: The evil PB boys just deleted the RTT 2016 thread on their forum . I wonder when they would get round to it.
Oooooooh! How surprising!!
NOT.
Damn you PB and your NON-work on RRT :(
Much easier to occasionally wave waffley vagueness at your creditors, and have your lackeys crush dissent, than to show any evidence that you're even trying.
And it's not like it's even a perception thing at this point. On their FB page, that's one thing, where people who might not yet be aware of the toxic reputation of Palladium might swing through. But the PB Forums are a ghost town regarding activity. Leaving it up doesn't really do much harm, and it was up long enough that most people knew the context. Taking it down is just another example of them ostriching themselves when it comes to dealing with the public.
Odds are, if questioned, they'll use the old "Someone posted something hostile, so we deleted the thread", completely missing the point that you can delete posts (and ban those people).
Palladium Books. When faced with a good or bad choice, they take the latter. Twice.
2016/07/13 13:57:36
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
DEZOAT wrote: The evil PB boys just deleted the RTT 2016 thread on their forum . I wonder when they would get round to it.
Ok, there is still many other threads so it is not a total shutdown.
It IS funny though that there is not a post to be found from June to now.
The second most recent active thread that is now the most recent is over a month and a half old from late May and also a mild conscructive criticism thread. If that isn't a canary in the coal mine for how much of a turn from the megasuccesss of the kickistarter this game has become under Palladium's seasoned management f, I don't know what is. Just look on the bright side... we don't have any reports of bannings or warnings which usually accompanied the previous thread deletions from the megaversal forums. That at least is noticeable progress and a big improvement. Did the thread take a turn for the worse since late last week? I usually check in on the forums when we get our weekly non-news murmur.
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Mike1975 wrote: The main FB page has also slowed although there are still quite a few posts on a daily basis.
Automatically Appended Next Post: also, as an aside, Walking War Robots on my phone is really addicting.
Are you talking about your group page or the main palladium one? Are complaint posts down or just overall posts of all kinds? (regardless of which page)
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2016/07/13 14:43:58
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Complaint posts are gone or show up rarely as people are staring to just throw in the towel. Most posts are from the few games people have played or some of the pics that I find and post. There are also a few on miniatures.
Wow....they deleted a thread ehich has be left alone for a very long time and in whoch no ine eas being overtly mean or nasty...yep palladium starndard op.
And i still get the odd pwrson asking why i washed my hands of these f'ing clowns.
2016/07/13 15:34:21
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Nice gnerl. I'm not a fan though of using WSF on the MPA but understand due to the size/cost/numbers. I'm curious to see if the bumpy rough sandpaper texture I've seen on other fantasy minis can be covered over or fixed.
2016/07/13 16:00:04
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
warboss wrote: Nice gnerl. I'm not a fan though of using WSF on the MPA but understand due to the size/cost/numbers. I'm curious to see if the bumpy rough sandpaper texture I've seen on other fantasy minis can be covered over or fixed.
I'm wondering the same thing. Sadly, USF is not an option for the Nosjaedul-Ger, not for the cost, but because it's not avaliable (no idea why).
Wanna have the Gnerls and MPA in my hands nooooow!!!!
2016/07/13 16:15:05
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Nesbet wrote: Wanna have the Gnerls and MPA in my hands nooooow!!!!
It will get to you...
I wish I was not going on vacation so soon, I am pretty sure I can get these things smooth without too much work: seal first, then sand (lightly).
The plastic is very strong so I am quite happy that it would survive gaming.
The "tooth" on these will be insane, gluing if I had to would take no prep.
I fully intend on cutting some arms to get different poses.
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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte
2016/07/13 19:43:50
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Ah well it was me that started that thread over on the PB Forums and I too was surprised it lasted as long as it did.
However, I probably overstepped that invisible line in my last posts, questioning if all the money was now gone - I did say on RTT work rather than anything else - and speculating and how PB could now afford to manufacture and then deliver Wave 2.
I know it is their forums so they have the right bt I fund it ironic that they can read and delete posts but never take the time to actuallly reply.
Some nice looking 3d home brew models being shown aand made me wonder somethng. With 3d printing getting relatively cheaper by the month nevermind the year, is this the cheap get out option that Kevin was boiling his kettle for, only to find he woulld still have to spend something?
2016/07/13 20:00:23
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
I doubt you'll find adequete detail 3d printing for the roughly $1.25 USD a mini we paid on average with a battlecry pledge. Also, the folks doing the deleting (mods like NMI or more likely Jeffar in this case since there are no reports yet of mass warnings sent out) aren't the ones with any real knowledge about the kickstarter's (lack of) progress. It sounds like the thread was deleted for an uncomfortable educated guess rather than actual trolling. If palladium doesn't want people connecting the dots and making guesses then they shouldn't leave an information vacuum going for 3-14 months at a time.
2016/07/13 20:50:12
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
warboss wrote: I doubt you'll find adequete detail 3d printing for the roughly $1.25 USD a mini we paid on average with a battlecry pledge. Also, the folks doing the deleting (mods like NMI or more likely Jeffar in this case since there are no reports yet of mass warnings sent out) aren't the ones with any real knowledge about the kickstarter's (lack of) progress. It sounds like the thread was deleted for an uncomfortable educated guess rather than actual trolling. If palladium doesn't want people connecting the dots and making guesses then they shouldn't leave an information vacuum going for 3-14 months at a time.
thats where 3D printing and mold making comes into play then.
Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project.
2016/07/14 12:20:43
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Gah!
No take-down demands before I get to order!!!!
What is funny is how some "centralized" printing services are being targeted to try to control the flood of 3D printed "commerce" involving IP.
I found this article interesting about how soon many items will be made outside of "control".
http://www.ip-watch.org/2015/07/09/3d-printing-and-public-policy/ I could see this being like the funny matter of buying blank CD's for burning: slap a BIG tax on printer raw material (good luck with that).
Anyway, PB could solve all this by making models.
They can pick something, anything and we can all get on with our lives.
A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte
2016/07/14 14:13:24
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Even though it's obvious what PB have been picking for so long, I am not prepared to put up with receiving a box of that, thank you.
I want what I pledged for and I am sick of getting full deliveries from campaigns I backed this year whilst I still get sweet [censored] Adams from PB.
Very low down in second place, I will accept PB's bankruptcy so they cannot do this to others later on - although that may be a little late by now.
"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes…then all of this…all of this…was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars." Commander sinclair, Babylon 5.
Bobtheinquisitor wrote:what is going on with APAC shipping? If Macross Island were real, they'd be the last place to get any Robotechnology.
2016/07/14 15:47:24
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Conrad Turner wrote: Sorry Talizvar,
Even though it's obvious what PB have been picking for so long, I am not prepared to put up with receiving a box of that, thank you.
I want what I pledged for and I am sick of getting full deliveries from campaigns I backed this year whilst I still get sweet [censored] Adams from PB.
Very low down in second place, I will accept PB's bankruptcy so they cannot do this to others later on - although that may be a little late by now.
Getting what was promised or their closure as a company seems like a perfectly reasonable stance to me.
Your statement makes me unsure if you are sick of these other companies performing so well: "Darn!, got everything I asked for AGAIN."
Though I performed my very own "Wave1" to Nesbet... I shipped 2/3rd what I should have... and English is my first language.
A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte
2016/07/14 17:23:28
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
I hope you're prepared to glue 1,745 pieces to build something that big! Each barrel on the top must be a hundred pieces each with seams needed to be filled to get that complex shape not originally designed for plastics manufacturing!
2016/07/14 17:57:23
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
warboss wrote: I hope you're prepared to glue 1,745 pieces to build something that big! Each barrel on the top must be a hundred pieces each with seams needed to be filled to get that complex shape not originally designed for plastics manufacturing!
I would also point out, that's a re-issue of an almost 30 years old set of sprues.