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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/14 19:15:40
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Skink Chief with Poisoned Javelins
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Albertorius wrote: warboss wrote:I hope you're prepared to glue 1,745 pieces to build something that big! Each barrel on the top must be a hundred pieces each with seams needed to be filled to get that complex shape not originally designed for plastics manufacturing!
I would also point out, that's a re-issue of an almost 30 years old set of sprues.
Maybe it was designed by time travelers from the future?
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Sir Isaac Newton may be the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space, but John von Neumann is the logistics officer that eats your problems and turns them into kit. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/14 19:33:52
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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Albertorius wrote:I would also point out, that's a re-issue of an almost 30 years old set of sprues.
I find that statement oddly exciting.
The barrels better be rifled...
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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/14 19:36:05
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I get where Warboss is coming from, but unfortunately this kit was designed before Kevin gifted the world with his vision. I've been assembling it while the plumbers are working, and I'm nearly done. Of course, I did do a rush job with far too many glue-melted fingerprints, but that's how my hobby rolls these days: rushed and shameful or not at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/14 19:40:40
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I hope your, erm, "relations" with the wife are better than that!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/14 19:53:43
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The New Miss Macross!
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FacelessMage wrote: Albertorius wrote: warboss wrote:I hope you're prepared to glue 1,745 pieces to build something that big! Each barrel on the top must be a hundred pieces each with seams needed to be filled to get that complex shape not originally designed for plastics manufacturing!
I would also point out, that's a re-issue of an almost 30 years old set of sprues.
Maybe it was designed by time travelers from the future?
Technosorcery is clearly the only logical answer. If Kevin and his crack team of elite folks hired for their grab bag packin', pencil sketchin', and 100% sun shine up the bum blowing free straight shootin' skill can't do it in over 3 1/2 years, then no mere mortals can. Automatically Appended Next Post:
If you just add "after years of delays" to the beginning then you have Palladium's business mantra! How appropriate!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/14 20:28:25
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Fresh-Faced New User
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BobtheInquisitor wrote:... I've been assembling it while the plumbers are working, and I'm nearly done. Of course, I did do a rush job with far too many glue-melted fingerprints, but that's how my hobby rolls these days: rushed and shameful or not at all.
I was going to ask for a pic of the sprues, you know, just to see how it couldn't be done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/14 20:57:40
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Autarch wrote: BobtheInquisitor wrote:... I've been assembling it while the plumbers are working, and I'm nearly done. Of course, I did do a rush job with far too many glue-melted fingerprints, but that's how my hobby rolls these days: rushed and shameful or not at all.
I was going to ask for a pic of the sprues, you know, just to see how it couldn't be done.
Would this be enough?
EDIT: $16.16 on HLJ, and it will look more or less like this assembled:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/14 20:59:06
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Bob, you MUST post the results of your assembled Monster, with a VF next to it, so I can see if I should order one for myself.
Cuz I obviously ain't getting it from PB...
Hmm...collecting UEDF only, all I need is some super VT's, a Monster and armored VT's. Do they make model kits of Lancers, Jotuns and YF-4's? Those three would be "nice to have", but not necessary.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/14 21:10:45
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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I feel I have witnessed model porn.
The sprues look awfully clean, I bet they may have refurbished the die.
Clear looking instructions, each sprue bagged.
In regards to the "Monster" and the variances of the Robotech cartoon, would we be forgiven if we say 1/200 scale is "close enough" to 1/258??
I will now back away and put on my helmet...
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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/14 22:02:04
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The New Miss Macross!
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Nah...unless Albertorious (whose name I've typed enough on dakka with my kindle that it autosuggests the rest with a few letters, lol!) or Bob model Khyron shirtless bareback riding on top. Then it might be NSFW. Automatically Appended Next Post: Mike1975 wrote:The main FB page has also slowed although there are still quite a few posts on a daily basis.
I suppose the upside as the moderator/owner is that you don't have to separate the kids and send them to different rooms as much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/14 22:56:30
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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warboss wrote:
Nah...unless Albertorious ( whose name I've typed enough on dakka with my kindle that it autosuggests the rest with a few letters, lol!) or Bob model Khyron shirtless bareback riding on top. Then it might be NSFW. 
And you still got it wrong
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/14 23:42:20
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The New Miss Macross!
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Dammit! On the bright side, I've apparently been *CONSISTENTLY* wrong for years, lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 00:27:12
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Grizzled MkII Monster Veteran
Toronto, Ontario
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So that's one thing you share in common with... no, even as a joke, I don't have the heart to say it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 01:23:52
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Crazy Marauder Horseman
Valdivia, Chile
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Talizvar wrote:I feel I have witnessed model porn.
The sprues look awfully clean, I bet they may have refurbished the die.
Clear looking instructions, each sprue bagged.
In regards to the "Monster" and the variances of the Robotech cartoon, would we be forgiven if we say 1/200 scale is "close enough" to 1/258??
I will now back away and put on my helmet...
NOPE.
RRT scale is 1:285 and this scale is closer to 1:300 than 1:200, obviously.
This monster is really monstrous. About 2x the same model in 1:285~300 scale.
Would be interesting to see this model in 1:300. Is there any? Was there?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 01:36:23
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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However, having some 1/200 gashapon, that Monster would fit in fine  . Hey, they're already painted (better than I do), and at worst come in three pieces.
And finally, while more expensive - at least they EXIST.
P.S.: I have a Takatoku Mac II diecast (also done up for Robotech in a lime green by Matchbox); apparently it is about 1/240 scale.
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It never ends well |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 01:52:50
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Sinewy Scourge
Crawfordsville Indiana
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Stumbled into a game based on Gundam UC stuff. Hoping it actually makes it out. The creator apparently has gotten approval from BanDai, so hoping it will see the light of day.
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All the worlds a joke and the people merely punchlines
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 03:24:24
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I don't have pictures of the sprues, but I can take a picture of the instruction book's picture of the sprues. Yes, there is even an instruction booklet. Such archaic technology.
Yep*. I only have to sneak and rush the hobbies she doesn't approve.
*Somethimes I have been known to rush through the shibari, but chest harnesses take forever and it's not like she can see shoddy knot work through the blindfold anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 04:41:08
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Are you putting build pics in a plog somewhere?
BTW, if you prep with the tortoiseshell, it'll cut a ton of time in the follow-up...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 05:18:13
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Ultraviolent Morlock
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Slight tangent:
Someone managed to get his pledge back from the Star Citizen game people: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/07/14/star-citizen-refund/
Why does it work there and not with PB?
Also: Scans of related legal docs: https://imgur.com/IIwd8sZ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 05:23:41
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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You people are evil. First I find out from Kid_Kyoto that Eaglemoss makes military vehicles, now I know about HobbyLink Japan...
My wallet is never going to recover.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 06:28:39
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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warboss wrote:Dammit! On the bright side, I've apparently been *CONSISTENTLY* wrong for years, lol. 
XDDDD. It's cool, I've been called far worse Automatically Appended Next Post: Stormonu wrote:You people are evil. First I find out from Kid_Kyoto that Eaglemoss makes military vehicles, now I know about HobbyLink Japan...
My wallet is never going to recover.
...and our work here is done
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 14:23:00
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inexperienced VF-1A Valkyrie Brownie
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The Michigan AG has not taken interest in it.
PB doesn't have money to return to us.
It wouldn't surprise me if we found out that Kevin lives in the warehouse.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 14:34:29
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Crazy Marauder Horseman
Valdivia, Chile
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n815e wrote:The Michigan AG has not taken interest in it.
PB doesn't have money to return to us.
It wouldn't surprise me if we found out that Kevin lives in the warehouse.
He could however, give us the digital files to print the miniatures at home or via shapeways (or similar) when filling for bankrupt.
Just saying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 14:40:25
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inexperienced VF-1A Valkyrie Brownie
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Nesbet wrote: n815e wrote:The Michigan AG has not taken interest in it.
PB doesn't have money to return to us.
It wouldn't surprise me if we found out that Kevin lives in the warehouse.
He could however, give us the digital files to print the miniatures at home or via shapeways (or similar) when filling for bankrupt.
Just saying.
HG wouldn't go for that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 14:58:29
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Crazy Marauder Horseman
Valdivia, Chile
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I know. But seriously, HG is as lame as PB. The other day I looked their website...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 15:39:09
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Using Inks and Washes
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They have one?
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"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes…then all of this…all of this…was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars." Commander sinclair, Babylon 5.
Bobtheinquisitor wrote:what is going on with APAC shipping? If Macross Island were real, they'd be the last place to get any Robotechnology. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 20:31:40
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The New Miss Macross!
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Out of curiosity, is anyone else interested in seeing how long the robotech tactics subforum can stay empty with Morgan Vening's last post from May remaining the current one? I rarely ever post on the palladium forums in the past two years but I'll be staying away from that subforum specifically for that reason.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 21:04:48
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Crazy Marauder Horseman
Valdivia, Chile
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Yeah sure. And its depressingly lame :(
I just can't believe how HG still has the rights and continue blocking the arrival of Macross, etc
Well, today we will get another non-update, probably. So I'm already moving forward with more positive things.
Today I started learning photoshop to crop and arrange dropzone buildings to print them
I really don't know for sure how to do all this, but I'm learning xD
And here's how they look in the proper scale compared with RRT miniatures:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 21:07:30
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Grizzled MkII Monster Veteran
Toronto, Ontario
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Given that they have subforums and stickied threads that haven't been utilized or relevant in years, I doubt it'll bother the PB folks any, but more to your point, I can't imagine it'll speak well to the product line when other people come looking for info/other fans.
Granted, finding the largest/most active thread on the forum to be one whining about the product line isn't good, but somehow I have to think "hasn't seen activity in 2 months" as worse.
At least whining shows passion and interest, even if expressed in less constructive ways.
2 months or more of silence indicates apathy, which is (imo) even more discouraging.
Their house, their prerogative, but that won't stop me from laughing and throwing pebbles from the peanut gallery.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 21:48:41
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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A bit of advice on the buildings:
Put the ground-level faces all directly next to each other (front-side-back-side). That way, you cut out 1 long rectangle, make 3 folds and only glue one edge before adding the roof.
The way you have it right now, you need to cut 4+1 rectangles, and glue all 4 vertical edges to make a building -- that is a LOT more work if you're making a lot of buildings.
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