Age of Sigmar News & Rumors: Quest for Ghal Maraz pics pg60

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**edlowe**

One thing about the chaos gods is that they were always in balance between the four excesses, with the rise of the horned rat and the potential fall of slaanesh this puts them at a bigger disadvantage when acting as a combined whole. Something that would be cool if developed in the fluff.

Also im wondering who if any of the previous incarnates have survived and also risen to godhood. (And and still hoping manfreds made it through along with settra)

**lord_blackfang**

Vermis wrote:
migooo wrote:Fire dwarfs... fire slayers...

I predict a big box release for duardin. This'll be called the fire starter.
It'll have examples of the heavy infantry answering only to the dwarf king. These are the fire guards.
There will also be sparsely armoured, fast moving infantry. The fire lighters.
They'll have a war machine in the grand tradition of flame cannons and goblin hewers. The fire engine.
Aaand I'm done.

Andthey read on Kindles and date on Tinder?

**Alpharius**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
Eldarain wrote:
What if the Horned Rat is Malal? After being surpassed by his 4 rivals he created the Skaven and bided his time until the End Times gave him the opportunity he was waiting for.

That would be wierd, as Malal's most famous champion was human (Kaleb Daark), and then there was a Malal Sorcorer (Heinrich Bors), and then there's Skrag the Slaughterer, an Ogre Maneater. Not really any Skaven stuff that I can recall.

Indeed!

http://realmofchaos80s.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-malignancy-of-malal-solving-mystery.html

**migooo**

pretre wrote:
via anonymous sources on Faeit 212
a quote for the Duardin Fyreslayers
"For enough Ur-gold, the Fyreslayers will fight anyone.

The first strikes of the Stormcast Eternal were against the Chaos foces in Aqushy. Yet other forces rose up to battle also. the flame beareded Fyreslayers emerged from the mountains, marching down the ironways. While Sigmar had alwasy counted the Forge-Father Grungni and his offstpring amonst his closest allies, these Duarddin worshipped the god Grimnir, and were far more mercenary. They fought against Chaos, but only for payment in Ur-gold. More disturbing still, if a counter-offer was generous enough, the Fyreslayters would just as willingly fight alongside Chaos armies."

Apparently pictures with Lady Atia as well.

This weeks WD? if so its worth getting i guess for fire dwarf info

**infinite_array**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Vermis wrote:
migooo wrote:Fire dwarfs... fire slayers...

I predict a big box release for duardin. This'll be called the fire starter.
It'll have examples of the heavy infantry answering only to the dwarf king. These are the fire guards.
There will also be sparsely armoured, fast moving infantry. The fire lighters.
They'll have a war machine in the grand tradition of flame cannons and goblin hewers. The fire engine.
Aaand I'm done.

Andthey read on Kindles and date on Tinder?

No, no. Remember, GW can't copyright fire.

But they can copyright fyre. Right?

**migooo**

infinite_array wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:
Vermis wrote:
migooo wrote:Fire dwarfs... fire slayers...

I predict a big box release for duardin. This'll be called the fire starter.
It'll have examples of the heavy infantry answering only to the dwarf king. These are the fire guards.
There will also be sparsely armoured, fast moving infantry. The fire lighters.
They'll have a war machine in the grand tradition of flame cannons and goblin hewers. The fire engine.
Aaand I'm done.

Andthey read on Kindles and date on Tinder?

No, no. Remember, GW can't copyright fire.

But they can copyright fyre. Right?

Oh by the Horned Rat thats funny

**JohnHwangDD**

infinite_array wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:
Vermis wrote:
migooo wrote:Fire dwarfs... fire slayers...

I predict a big box release for duardin. This'll be called the fire starter.
It'll have examples of the heavy infantry answering only to the dwarf king. These are the fire guards.
There will also be sparsely armoured, fast moving infantry. The fire lighters.
They'll have a war machine in the grand tradition of flame cannons and goblin hewers. The fire engine.
Aaand I'm done.

Andthey read on Kindles and date on Tinder?

No, no. Remember, GW can't copyright fire.

But they can copyright fyre. Right?

They're trademarking "Aelf" for "elf", right?

**Desubot**

JohnHwangDD wrote:

They're trademarking "Aelf" for "elf", right?

Alfs?

Id buy

**Vermis**

I still get the feeling GW are cribbing (edit: their dwarfs. They're definitely cribbing 'aelfs') from other sources, though...

pretre wrote:the flame beareded Fyreslayers emerged from the mountains, marching down the ironways.

I get this image in my head, for better or worse. (And yeah, fire giants, but broad, stumpy, bearded, dwarf-proportioned fire giants)

**highlord tamburlaine**

I thought of those Wayne Reynolds fire giants too.

But with flames molded all over their armor. Flames coming off of everything.

**NinthMusketeer**

GW isn't creating much that's IP-defensible, but their attempts at doing so (and likely belief that they have succeeded) are simultaneously amusing, cringe-worthy, and really really lame.

**Manchu**

I'm not sure aelf can be trademarked. Isn't it an actual word in Old English? Or does that only count if you use the proper orthography?

**RoninXiC**

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%A6lf

**NoggintheNog**

Manchu wrote:
I'm not sure aelf can be trademarked. Isn't it an actual word in Old English? Or does that only count if you use the proper orthography?

Not sure. The word I am familiar with in Anglo Saxon is ÆLF, which I am sure they will try and claim is not aelf. In the world of legal nonsense they are probably correct.

**Ghaz**

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_Knight

**Saldiven**

As Ghaz indirectly points out, you have to go pretty far afield in the genre of fantasy literature to come up with an original idea for the name of a race.

(Michael Moorcock's "elf" analogs were called Vadhagh and human analogs were called Mabden in the Corum series, and he did that 44 years ago.)

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

so the Horned Rat is indeed at the big gods table (even if nobody wants to talk to him yet, especially Nurgle who thinks blight and pestilence is his)

**Wonderwolf**

Manchu wrote:
I'm not sure aelf can be trademarked. Isn't it an actual word in Old English? Or does that only count if you use the proper orthography?

If words in modern English can be trademarked (or any modern language), why not words in an old language?

And, of course, a trademark is always within a context.

Apple did trademark the brand/word "apple" for computers and electronics, but it's still fine if you use it to sell fruit, etc.. Apple also trademarked the french greeting "Bonjour" and city-names like "Chicago" or "Geneva" for a font.

Random other things Apple has trademarked: "Logic", "Numbers", "Lightning", "Pages", "Sand", ... Lots of great stuff there.

https://www.apple.com/legal/intellectual-property/trademark/appletmlist.html

**AlexHolker**

Wonderwolf wrote:
Manchu wrote:
I'm not sure aelf can be trademarked. Isn't it an actual word in Old English? Or does that only count if you use the proper orthography?

If words in modern English can be trademarked (or any modern language), why not words in an old language?

And, of course, a trademark is always within a context.

But that context has to be new. You can trademark Apple brand computers but not Apple brand apples. Aelf brand aelfs do not qualify.

**Chopxsticks**

I had no idea 40k had so many amazing bits to pillage for Fantasy!! I just scored some Space Wolves heads and this Blood Angel marine hand holding a Bloodletters head off ebay!

My Sigmarines are going to look so Norse and rugged!!

**notprop**

Sigh. GW are not trademarking, they are differentiating their product.

It's creating some odd names but it's clearly what they want to do.

A Kid's parents goes into a Game store and asks or Orruks or Oggers and gets offered A. N. Others Orcs or Ogres then they probably aren't going to buy them.

**Dryaktylus**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

so the Horned Rat is indeed at the big gods table (even if nobody wants to talk to him yet, especially Nurgle who thinks blight and pestilence is his)

The Hornet Rat is a mix of 'Not as planned' Tzeentch and Nurgle. For rats. Not exactly a proper replacement for Slaanesh.

**notprop**

Maybe the GReat Horned One will have teets, you know to keep the breastophile fanboi's happy?

Rats have teets right?

**BobtheInquisitor**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
Eldarain wrote:
What if the Horned Rat is Malal? After being surpassed by his 4 rivals he created the Skaven and bided his time until the End Times gave him the opportunity he was waiting for.

That would be wierd, as Malal's most famous champion was human (Kaleb Daark), and then there was a Malal Sorcorer (Heinrich Bors), and then there's Skrag the Slaughterer, an Ogre Maneater. Not really any Skaven stuff that I can recall.

In light of the new fluff, I wonder if we can chalk up Malal to being the 'Sigmar' of a previous world's human civilization. His decline and eventual disappearance could be the result of a long and disastrous Age of Malal realmwar.

**SilverDevilfish**

Wonderwolf wrote:
Manchu wrote:
I'm not sure aelf can be trademarked. Isn't it an actual word in Old English? Or does that only count if you use the proper orthography?

If words in modern English can be trademarked (or any modern language), why not words in an old language?

And, of course, a trademark is always within a context.

Apple did trademark the brand/word "apple" for computers and electronics, but it's still fine if you use it to sell fruit, etc.. Apple also trademarked the french greeting "Bonjour" and city-names like "Chicago" or "Geneva" for a font.

Random other things Apple has trademarked: "Logic", "Numbers", "Lightning", "Pages", "Sand", ... Lots of great stuff there.

https://www.apple.com/legal/intellectual-property/trademark/appletmlist.html

It's over guys, Apple's trademarked carbon, we have to pay them to exist.

Patent Laws

Also the Horned Rat being a big Chaos God seems... odd, he's basically Nurgeentch (with fur).

**wolfmerc**

The horned rat? That's disappointing, having Slaanesh captured jumps the shark and replacing him with something redundant ?lame.

**migooo**

wolfmerc wrote:
The horned rat? That's disappointing, having Slaanesh captured jumps the shark and replacing him with something redundant ?lame.

Are you saying the greatest of Rats is redundant? you do know he can hear you right?

Anyway yes he shouldn't replace Slaanesh but hes got a previous place in lore that at least he had daemons at one point not like goldenboy with his stupid hammer fetish gold minion things

**Da Boss**

The Fire Dwarf idea is not original (what is?)

D'n'D Azers got there first

but if they look anything like that, I am totally getting a box. I love Azers.

**migooo**

I thought they were Gensai hybrids personally..

**TiamatRoar**

Slaanesh's fate is actually unknown. S/he MIGHT have been captured but the plot explicitly states his followers don't know what the heck happened. They think it's Malerion's (Malekith? Tyrion? Both fusion danced?) doing, though.

Personally I'd like it if Slaanesh was that maiden that Sigmar found, possibly purposefully just trying to take a vacation (because Slaanesh actually canonically didn't want the end times to happen) rather than corrupt Sigmar's realm (sadly it's likely the latter)