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 insaniak wrote:
Yeah, they could easily release add-ons consisting of another board section and a few extra models. Sort of like the old Heroquest and Space Crusade add-ons.

Just what I was thinking. Package a new tile and mission sheet with the upcoming boxes (individual releases for the MkIV and Termies, other armour marks ect) and you could easily increase the longevity and replay value of the game (and if we're being cynical, charge more per box because of it). Unlikely, but not impossible.

By the way, if anyone did grab a not-primarch in the kabuki sale, or has a FW one you fancy painting, a few of us are doing a 'Primarch in a Month' for this month's painting challenge, feel free to join in! The more Primarch goodness we can get in, the more epic it'll be!
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/669063.page

I think there might be a free mini in next week's White Dwarf. There is a teaser in this week's saying you'll get a freebie!

 insaniak wrote:
Yeah, they could easily release add-ons consisting of another board section and a few extra models. Sort of like the old Heroquest and Space Crusade add-ons.

I'm sure they'll support the game after release, just like they did with Dreadfleet, Assassination Force and both releases of Space Hulk.

Striking whilst the iron is hot is simply not something GW does...

It really just depends on just what the aim is for this game - whether it's a throwaway one-off release like the previous boardgames, or actually intended as a 3rd core game.

Though keep in mind that these are rumours, there is talk of the set replacing The Hobbit on shelves and that it is not a limited edition set. If so and this is a new product line, I predict there will be expansions and additional kits for this release. Also, keep in mind that we've seen 'Horus Heresy' shelf labels with a new logo and that the upcoming set is only subtitled 'Betrayal at Calth', Additionally, the models in this set are mostly multipart plastic kits; it would seem unlikely that GW would produce compex and expensive kits that are limited to one board game. I personally predict that this is the start of a new product line.

Well going by just the mk4 model sprues. It has bolter, bp, ccw, frag and krak, Sargeant weapons and special and heavy weapons. That does not look like something for a one off boxed game would take the time to do. What I bet is that the boxed game is similar to the Dust started. The Dust starter came with rules for playing the game on a grid mat and rules to play it on a table top. I suspect this boxed set to have a two way concept.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Well going by just the mk4 model sprues. It has bolter, bp, ccw, frag and krak, Sargeant weapons and special and heavy weapons. That does not look like something for a one off boxed game would take the time to do. What I bet is that the boxed game is similar to the Dust started. The Dust starter came with rules for playing the game on a grid mat and rules to play it on a table top. I suspect this boxed set to have a two way concept.

I think it's unlikely to have two sets of rules. More likely would be a series of boardgames/expansions covering the major plotpoints from the Heresy series, with players pointed towards Forgeworld if they want larger tabletop battles.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Yeah, they could easily release add-ons consisting of another board section and a few extra models. Sort of like the old Heroquest and Space Crusade add-ons.

I'm sure they'll support the game after release, just like they did with Dreadfleet, Assassination Force and both releases of Space Hulk.

Striking whilst the iron is hot is simply not something GW does...

But they did support the first release of Space Hulk....with the second release.

But, yeah, this is the company that has a huge WFB-based video game coming soon (Warhammer: Total War) AFTER they blew up and rebooted the WFB game into something else.

Honestly, as long as they allow Forgeworld to continue to do their own thing their own way, I don't care what extra rules, cards, or whatever GW throws in with the plastic 30K stuff.

Haha, I forgot to clarify that the table top rules will likely be an ad for FW's HH series.

 Davylove21 wrote:

Plumbumbarum wrote:

 kronk wrote:

Plumbumbarum wrote:
Ok, still apparently a boardgame tough.

You do understand that none of us will use it as a board game, right?

Yes. Does it change the fact that it is sold as boargame and is ridiculously priced for one? Not sure.

It does. It's not sold as a board game in Argos for Christmas. It's sold as a board game by GW to fans of GW's gaming systems. And I'm going to buy 2 as a minimum

And we're going to like it no matter how much some individuals tell us that we're incorrect for doing so.

I plan to play the boardgame. I quite enjoyed the assassin one. I will also obviously be making a 30K force, but it's not like those two options are incompatible.

So has it been confirmed this is NOT a Limited Release, or is that still just the general consensus?

I got straight from the horses mouth, it's not a limited release, it's a limited run, they may make more after its sold out.

No confirmation yet that I've seen.

 insaniak wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Well going by just the mk4 model sprues. It has bolter, bp, ccw, frag and krak, Sargeant weapons and special and heavy weapons. That does not look like something for a one off boxed game would take the time to do. What I bet is that the boxed game is similar to the Dust started. The Dust starter came with rules for playing the game on a grid mat and rules to play it on a table top. I suspect this boxed set to have a two way concept.

I think it's unlikely to have two sets of rules. More likely would be a series of boardgames/expansions covering the major plotpoints from the Heresy series, with players pointed towards Forgeworld if they want larger tabletop battles.

I wonder if they have such a long term plans or it it is just done for the next report, expansions would be interesting if it introduces different things like with (advanced) space crusade

So it looks like there is no iconography directly on the minis? I hope I am right because I want to buy a set all for me and make some Heresy-era Dark Angels.

Zatsuku wrote:
So it looks like there is no iconography directly on the minis? I hope I am right because I want to buy a set all for me and make some Heresy-era Dark Angels.

no iconography just a set of decals (UM & WB)

 insaniak wrote:
It really just depends on just what the aim is for this game - whether it's a throwaway one-off release like the previous boardgames, or actually intended as a 3rd core game.

Given the Marines and Termies are proper models and not starter models it does lend more credence to the idea that it is a core release and not a one-and-done boardgame.

Of course, it could be that the box set itself is a limited run and that they'll be selling the kits separately at a later date.

More my point was that the minis themselves aren't going to vanish. The big box might, but then they'll put out (no doubt laughably overpriced) Mk.IV Termies and HH Termies at a later date.

 Formosa wrote:
I got straight from the horses mouth, it's not a limited release, it's a limited run, they may make more after its sold out.

Well that's barely any more encouraging. It's still putting people in a "buy now, OR ELSE!" situation, since as usual we have no idea how many copies GW have made and whether that number will over or under estimate demand, and we have no idea how long it will be before we see the individual kits(how many months has it been since Execution Force, and rumours are still no more concrete than "Soon(tm)" on clampacks for the Assassins).

I wish I had more faith in them, but I can see GW being derptacular enough to pump out mountains of AoS starter boxes that by many accounts are now sitting on shelves and being heavily discounted, yet get Dreadfleet-phobia again and drastically under-produce for a HH release that will likely end up being an utter goldmine providing they can actually meet demand. Hopefully not, hopefully they've made enough of these to satisfy the immediate demand and have a few left over for folk who don't have £100 to drop just like that in that particular week, but I'd lay even-odds.

Even when they put out a product I want to buy, GW still seem to find ways to not take my money.

On that note, Space Hulk 2014 finally seems to have sold out completely (as I was made painfully aware of the other day )

Im not the only one who Realized Horus Heresy has its own Tap now on GWs website am I?
Right below "Price Range" at the bottom of the list?
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warhammer-40-000

kb_lock wrote:
On that note, Space Hulk 2014 finally seems to have sold out completely (as I was made painfully aware of the other day )

There are a couple copies sitting around in some of the local game stores near me. I always wonder if i should just pick one up.

I probably wouldn't tbh, there were so many people buying them this round that I think the rarity of them has plummeted. 2009 versions would easily get 100% markup over here, I can't see the 2014 version doing that given that a) they will no doubt release it again, and b) there are a billion copies in the hands of resellers who will be competing with each other to release their stock.

I may be wrong, but who knows - I have an unopened 2014 set, but I bought it for me, not for resale.

 Bottle wrote:
I think there might be a free mini in next week's White Dwarf. There is a teaser in this week's saying you'll get a freebie!

It will be a free pin. The Warhammer Visions will also have one.

So, do I buy the Ultramarine Praetorian upgrades for the 60 Mk4 Marines? Hmm...

 Crazyterran wrote:
So, do I buy the Ultramarine Praetorian upgrades for the 60 Mk4 Marines? Hmm...

Do you hate your bank account? That is 144 pounds on upgrades!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Yeah, they could easily release add-ons consisting of another board section and a few extra models. Sort of like the old Heroquest and Space Crusade add-ons.

I'm sure they'll support the game after release, just like they did with Dreadfleet, Assassination Force and both releases of Space Hulk.

Striking whilst the iron is hot is simply not something GW does...

I'm not sure how hot Assassination Force was as a game I think almost everyone who bought it just wanted the assassins.

Space Hulk, however, had like... 3 expansions for the first edition (Deathwing, Genestealer, and some book), followed by a second edition with significantly different models, and a third edition with totally new sculpts. And then of course 4e, that was more like 3.2e I still love that game.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
So, do I buy the Ultramarine Praetorian upgrades for the 60 Mk4 Marines? Hmm...

Do you hate your bank account? That is 144 pounds on upgrades!

It obviously won't be all at once - more of a gradual thing. I have so much 40k army stuff to build anyways, it's not like I'm in a huge rush to build and put the heresy stuff on the table top.

And those upgrades will make them look prettier than the other marines though, and as an Ultramarine, that's what really matters!