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the_Armyman wrote: Wait, I don't get it. I mentioned that I thought this was a rather transparent cash grab by GW to create yet another boardgame masquerading as a 40K release, I get called a pathetic hater, shouted down, and generally seen as the bad guy of the thread. Then several people come in here and decry the 40K rules as being lackluster, poorly constructed, and a missed opportunity, and they're greeted with silence. Where's the outrage, guys? Thse guys are totally urinating all over your parade. Let's get 'em!
You come across very much as a "bitter, hateful ex" in this thread. I don't care for AoS and huge chunks of current 40k, but I manage to completely ignore gak that I'm not interested in with a shrug. I don't feel entitled to anything. When I'm willing to pay X dollars for Y product, then fine. When I'm not, I don't. Simples.
the_Armyman wrote: Wait, I don't get it. I mentioned that I thought this was a rather transparent cash grab by GW to create yet another boardgame masquerading as a 40K release, I get called a pathetic hater, shouted down, and generally seen as the bad guy of the thread. Then several people come in here and decry the 40K rules as being lackluster, poorly constructed, and a missed opportunity, and they're greeted with silence. Where's the outrage, guys? Thse guys are totally urinating all over your parade. Let's get 'em!
You come across very much as a "bitter, hateful ex" in this thread. I don't care for AoS and huge chunks of current 40k, but I manage to completely ignore gak that I'm not interested in with a shrug. I don't feel entitled to anything. When I'm willing to pay X dollars for Y product, then fine. When I'm not, I don't. Simples.
+1 to Azazel
This is actually OT, per the mods. if you'd like to discuss this further, please use the PM system. Also, again, thanks for yet another personal jab. You guys are the best
Zognob Gorgoff wrote: epic models, looking forward to trying the BG as i do like space hulk and the other added 'content games' so far aint bad - the 40k rules tho seriously how poo lol Not that it my only gripe but why does the blood angel cost the same as the ravenguard? hand flamer n furious charge vs twin claws, stealth and custom special rule>? will be house ruling these dudes im sure.
Oh yeah definatley
. is it me or the fact There is 2 Ultramarines when they could have just made him a Son of Orar or any other chapter , just kinda showing GW Ultra fetish again?
Honestly, when it comes to characters associated with the Deathwatch and/or Tyranid hunting? You don't have many options.
You have Scout-Sergeant Cyrus from Dawn of War, Shadow-Captain Korvidae from IA8(after the failed raid on Kastorel-Novem, he volunteered for a penitent stint in the Deathwatch), Artemis from the Inquisitor game, some of the (briefly detailed) named guys from the Deathwatch RPG material, and Chaplain Cassius.
The list gets even smaller though when you just start looking at named Chaplains(which I have a feeling was part of the criteria they used designing the box; Deathwatch Chaplains have been a 'Big Deal' in the background along with their Librarian equivalent. They probably want to have a 'generic' plastic Chaplain kit that they can release as a blister and they wanted something that didn't have the molded base like the one from the Reclusium Command Squad set).
You have Asmodai for the Dark Angels, Cassius for the Ultramarines, and Lemartes for the Blood Angels. Of those only Cassius has actively been mentioned with the Deathwatch, having trained several of their Kill-Teams in counter Tyranid tactics.
I would, personally, have loved to see Scout-Sergeant Cyrus make an appearance but then we would have had two Blood Ravens!
the_Armyman wrote: Wait, I don't get it. I mentioned that I thought this was a rather transparent cash grab by GW to create yet another boardgame masquerading as a 40K release, I get called a pathetic hater, shouted down, and generally seen as the bad guy of the thread. Then several people come in here and decry the 40K rules as being lackluster, poorly constructed, and a missed opportunity, and they're greeted with silence. Where's the outrage, guys? Thse guys are totally urinating all over your parade. Let's get 'em!
You come across very much as a "bitter, hateful ex" in this thread. I don't care for AoS and huge chunks of current 40k, but I manage to completely ignore gak that I'm not interested in with a shrug. I don't feel entitled to anything. When I'm willing to pay X dollars for Y product, then fine. When I'm not, I don't. Simples.
+1 to Azazel
This is actually OT, per the mods. if you'd like to discuss this further, please use the PM system. Also, again, thanks for yet another personal jab. You guys are the best
There's a button called report post? Or you could ignore the user ?
Regardless
I think I'm only going to keep the white scar SM or the Salamander as they are the only chapters I like after the Lamenters. The 3 boxes I plan to get should be enough for a decent sized cult.
Zognob Gorgoff wrote: epic models, looking forward to trying the BG as i do like space hulk and the other added 'content games' so far aint bad - the 40k rules tho seriously how poo lol Not that it my only gripe but why does the blood angel cost the same as the ravenguard? hand flamer n furious charge vs twin claws, stealth and custom special rule>? will be house ruling these dudes im sure.
Oh yeah definatley
. is it me or the fact There is 2 Ultramarines when they could have just made him a Son of Orar or any other chapter , just kinda showing GW Ultra fetish again?
Honestly, when it comes to characters associated with the Deathwatch and/or Tyranid hunting? You don't have many options.
You have Scout-Sergeant Cyrus from Dawn of War, Shadow-Captain Korvidae from IA8(after the failed raid on Kastorel-Novem, he volunteered for a penitent stint in the Deathwatch), Artemis from the Inquisitor game, some of the (briefly detailed) named guys from the Deathwatch RPG material, and Chaplain Cassius.
The list gets even smaller though when you just start looking at named Chaplains(which I have a feeling was part of the criteria they used designing the box; Deathwatch Chaplains have been a 'Big Deal' in the background along with their Librarian equivalent. They probably want to have a 'generic' plastic Chaplain kit that they can release as a blister and they wanted something that didn't have the molded base like the one from the Reclusium Command Squad set).
You have Asmodai for the Dark Angels, Cassius for the Ultramarines, and Lemartes for the Blood Angels. Of those only Cassius has actively been mentioned with the Deathwatch, having trained several of their Kill-Teams in counter Tyranid tactics.
I would, personally, have loved to see Scout-Sergeant Cyrus make an appearance but then we would have had two Blood Ravens!
If it had to be Ultra why not captain Titus before he was a Captain. I'm fairly sure with his experiences he's a decent candidate for the Deathwatch.
Where's most of the DW fluff then? What books should I be looking at?
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the_Armyman wrote: Wait, I don't get it. I mentioned that I thought this was a rather transparent cash grab by GW to create yet another boardgame masquerading as a 40K release, I get called a pathetic hater, shouted down, and generally seen as the bad guy of the thread. Then several people come in here and decry the 40K rules as being lackluster, poorly constructed, and a missed opportunity, and they're greeted with silence. Where's the outrage, guys? Thse guys are totally urinating all over your parade. Let's get 'em!
You come across very much as a "bitter, hateful ex" in this thread. I don't care for AoS and huge chunks of current 40k, but I manage to completely ignore gak that I'm not interested in with a shrug. I don't feel entitled to anything. When I'm willing to pay X dollars for Y product, then fine. When I'm not, I don't. Simples.
Why are you bringing up posts from ten pages back when warnings were already passed out?
EDIT: looks like this has already been pointing out. I don't know why it's hard to follow this stuff though.
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Zognob Gorgoff wrote: epic models, looking forward to trying the BG as i do like space hulk and the other added 'content games' so far aint bad - the 40k rules tho seriously how poo lol Not that it my only gripe but why does the blood angel cost the same as the ravenguard? hand flamer n furious charge vs twin claws, stealth and custom special rule>? will be house ruling these dudes im sure.
Oh yeah definatley
. is it me or the fact There is 2 Ultramarines when they could have just made him a Son of Orar or any other chapter , just kinda showing GW Ultra fetish again?
Honestly, when it comes to characters associated with the Deathwatch and/or Tyranid hunting? You don't have many options.
You have Scout-Sergeant Cyrus from Dawn of War, Shadow-Captain Korvidae from IA8(after the failed raid on Kastorel-Novem, he volunteered for a penitent stint in the Deathwatch), Artemis from the Inquisitor game, some of the (briefly detailed) named guys from the Deathwatch RPG material, and Chaplain Cassius.
The list gets even smaller though when you just start looking at named Chaplains(which I have a feeling was part of the criteria they used designing the box; Deathwatch Chaplains have been a 'Big Deal' in the background along with their Librarian equivalent. They probably want to have a 'generic' plastic Chaplain kit that they can release as a blister and they wanted something that didn't have the molded base like the one from the Reclusium Command Squad set).
You have Asmodai for the Dark Angels, Cassius for the Ultramarines, and Lemartes for the Blood Angels. Of those only Cassius has actively been mentioned with the Deathwatch, having trained several of their Kill-Teams in counter Tyranid tactics.
I would, personally, have loved to see Scout-Sergeant Cyrus make an appearance but then we would have had two Blood Ravens!
Fluff wise this game is set pre- 1st Tyranic war so none of the characters have any experience dealing with Tyrinds since Hive Fleet Behemoth hasn't turned up yet. Mind you, as a Tyranid player I don't really care which chapters the Marines come from, they all taste the same to me!
Also Cassius is the leader of this kill team, so it makes sense he put another member of his chapter into command of the smaller squad? (atleast thats how I look at it)
Fluff wise this game is set pre- 1st Tyranic war so none of the characters have any experience dealing with Tyrinds since Hive Fleet Behemoth hasn't turned up yet. Mind you, as a Tyranid player I don't really care which chapters the Marines come from, they all taste the same to me!
I'm aware of the fact that this is set pre-1st Tyrannic War, but Cassius being the "first contact" for Genestealer Cults is new fluff.
Fluff wise this game is set pre- 1st Tyranic war so none of the characters have any experience dealing with Tyrinds since Hive Fleet Behemoth hasn't turned up yet. Mind you, as a Tyranid player I don't really care which chapters the Marines come from, they all taste the same to me!
I'm aware of the fact that this is set pre-1st Tyrannic War, but Cassius being the "first contact" for Genestealer Cults is new fluff.
Do we have a date when the first GSC was unearthed? . Surely ordo Xenos or Herectus inquisitors would be better than a SM for this kinda work?
Fluff wise this game is set pre- 1st Tyranic war so none of the characters have any experience dealing with Tyrinds since Hive Fleet Behemoth hasn't turned up yet. Mind you, as a Tyranid player I don't really care which chapters the Marines come from, they all taste the same to me!
I'm aware of the fact that this is set pre-1st Tyrannic War, but Cassius being the "first contact" for Genestealer Cults is new fluff.
Do we have a date when the first GSC was unearthed? . Surely ordo Xenos or Herectus inquisitors would be better than a SM for this kinda work?
This is supposedly the first one I think? Cassius uncovers it?
migooo wrote: Do we have a date when the first GSC was unearthed? . Surely ordo Xenos or Herectus inquisitors would be better than a SM for this kinda work?
The Deathwatch is part of Ordo Xenos.
Edit: Okay, I get what you mean. There's no reason to deploy a pure Deathwatch team to an unknown threat.
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migooo wrote: Do we have a date when the first GSC was unearthed? . Surely ordo Xenos or Herectus inquisitors would be better than a SM for this kinda work?
The Deathwatch is part of Ordo Xenos.
Edit: Okay, I get what you mean. There's no reason to deploy a pure Deathwatch team to an unknown threat.
Exactly since there's supposedly a very limited amount of SM and an even fewer amount of DW
I think this is meant to be the first encounter with a Coven. Ymgarl was an encounter with purestrains only/now glossed over as the slug-leech version, not true stealers? Not sure how the rogue trader version of a gene-stealer resolves with what we currently call ymgarl stealers (cthulhu headed ones)...
On Ymgarl, the stealers were getting it on with a native leechlike creature, which wasn't a higher lifeform IIRC. So there wouldn't have been a cult formed.
the_Armyman wrote: Wait, I don't get it. I mentioned that I thought this was a rather transparent cash grab by GW to create yet another boardgame masquerading as a 40K release, I get called a pathetic hater, shouted down, and generally seen as the bad guy of the thread. Then several people come in here and decry the 40K rules as being lackluster, poorly constructed, and a missed opportunity, and they're greeted with silence. Where's the outrage, guys? Thse guys are totally urinating all over your parade. Let's get 'em!
You come across very much as a "bitter, hateful ex" in this thread. I don't care for AoS and huge chunks of current 40k, but I manage to completely ignore gak that I'm not interested in with a shrug. I don't feel entitled to anything. When I'm willing to pay X dollars for Y product, then fine. When I'm not, I don't. Simples.
+1 to Azazel
This is actually OT, per the mods. if you'd like to discuss this further, please use the PM system. Also, again, thanks for yet another personal jab. You guys are the best
There's a button called report post? Or you could ignore the user ?
Regardless
I think I'm only going to keep the white scar SM or the Salamander as they are the only chapters I like after the Lamenters. The 3 boxes I plan to get should be enough for a decent sized cult.
Zognob Gorgoff wrote: epic models, looking forward to trying the BG as i do like space hulk and the other added 'content games' so far aint bad - the 40k rules tho seriously how poo lol Not that it my only gripe but why does the blood angel cost the same as the ravenguard? hand flamer n furious charge vs twin claws, stealth and custom special rule>? will be house ruling these dudes im sure.
Oh yeah definatley
. is it me or the fact There is 2 Ultramarines when they could have just made him a Son of Orar or any other chapter , just kinda showing GW Ultra fetish again?
Honestly, when it comes to characters associated with the Deathwatch and/or Tyranid hunting? You don't have many options.
You have Scout-Sergeant Cyrus from Dawn of War, Shadow-Captain Korvidae from IA8(after the failed raid on Kastorel-Novem, he volunteered for a penitent stint in the Deathwatch), Artemis from the Inquisitor game, some of the (briefly detailed) named guys from the Deathwatch RPG material, and Chaplain Cassius.
The list gets even smaller though when you just start looking at named Chaplains(which I have a feeling was part of the criteria they used designing the box; Deathwatch Chaplains have been a 'Big Deal' in the background along with their Librarian equivalent. They probably want to have a 'generic' plastic Chaplain kit that they can release as a blister and they wanted something that didn't have the molded base like the one from the Reclusium Command Squad set).
You have Asmodai for the Dark Angels, Cassius for the Ultramarines, and Lemartes for the Blood Angels. Of those only Cassius has actively been mentioned with the Deathwatch, having trained several of their Kill-Teams in counter Tyranid tactics.
I would, personally, have loved to see Scout-Sergeant Cyrus make an appearance but then we would have had two Blood Ravens!
If it had to be Ultra why not captain Titus before he was a Captain. I'm fairly sure with his experiences he's a decent candidate for the Deathwatch.
Where's most of the DW fluff then? What books should I be looking at?
Captain Titus was never a captain of the Ultramarine, much less of the second company, because the game takes place in the 41st Millennium, there have only been two 2nd Company Captains, Severus Agemman, who would go on to be 1st Captain (Not the movie Severus) and Cato Sicarius, with the Battle for Macragge being the time of their promotions. It was actually Captain Fabian of the 3rd Company who took the most action against the Tyranids post BoM bar Cassius.
But recent publications show Fabian leading the Third Company against Vior'la Tau.
Cassius' hatred for Tyrannies came after the Battle which was not long after the Tyranids first became known in the galaxy, so this game is only a few years before Cassius is recalled to Ultramar.
the_Armyman wrote: Wait, I don't get it. I mentioned that I thought this was a rather transparent cash grab by GW to create yet another boardgame masquerading as a 40K release, I get called a pathetic hater, shouted down, and generally seen as the bad guy of the thread. Then several people come in here and decry the 40K rules as being lackluster, poorly constructed, and a missed opportunity, and they're greeted with silence. Where's the outrage, guys? Thse guys are totally urinating all over your parade. Let's get 'em!
You come across very much as a "bitter, hateful ex" in this thread. I don't care for AoS and huge chunks of current 40k, but I manage to completely ignore gak that I'm not interested in with a shrug. I don't feel entitled to anything. When I'm willing to pay X dollars for Y product, then fine. When I'm not, I don't. Simples.
+1 to Azazel
This is actually OT, per the mods. if you'd like to discuss this further, please use the PM system. Also, again, thanks for yet another personal jab. You guys are the best
There's a button called report post? Or you could ignore the user ?
Regardless
I think I'm only going to keep the white scar SM or the Salamander as they are the only chapters I like after the Lamenters. The 3 boxes I plan to get should be enough for a decent sized cult.
Zognob Gorgoff wrote: epic models, looking forward to trying the BG as i do like space hulk and the other added 'content games' so far aint bad - the 40k rules tho seriously how poo lol Not that it my only gripe but why does the blood angel cost the same as the ravenguard? hand flamer n furious charge vs twin claws, stealth and custom special rule>? will be house ruling these dudes im sure.
Oh yeah definatley
. is it me or the fact There is 2 Ultramarines when they could have just made him a Son of Orar or any other chapter , just kinda showing GW Ultra fetish again?
Honestly, when it comes to characters associated with the Deathwatch and/or Tyranid hunting? You don't have many options.
You have Scout-Sergeant Cyrus from Dawn of War, Shadow-Captain Korvidae from IA8(after the failed raid on Kastorel-Novem, he volunteered for a penitent stint in the Deathwatch), Artemis from the Inquisitor game, some of the (briefly detailed) named guys from the Deathwatch RPG material, and Chaplain Cassius.
The list gets even smaller though when you just start looking at named Chaplains(which I have a feeling was part of the criteria they used designing the box; Deathwatch Chaplains have been a 'Big Deal' in the background along with their Librarian equivalent. They probably want to have a 'generic' plastic Chaplain kit that they can release as a blister and they wanted something that didn't have the molded base like the one from the Reclusium Command Squad set).
You have Asmodai for the Dark Angels, Cassius for the Ultramarines, and Lemartes for the Blood Angels. Of those only Cassius has actively been mentioned with the Deathwatch, having trained several of their Kill-Teams in counter Tyranid tactics.
I would, personally, have loved to see Scout-Sergeant Cyrus make an appearance but then we would have had two Blood Ravens!
If it had to be Ultra why not captain Titus before he was a Captain. I'm fairly sure with his experiences he's a decent candidate for the Deathwatch.
Where's most of the DW fluff then? What books should I be looking at?
Captain Titus was never a captain of the Ultramarine, much less of the second company, because the game takes place in the 41st Millennium, there have only been two 2nd Company Captains, Severus Agemman, who would go on to be 1st Captain (Not the movie Severus) and Cato Sicarius, with the Battle for Macragge being the time of their promotions. It was actually Captain Fabian of the 3rd Company who took the most action against the Tyranids post BoM bar Cassius.
But recent publications show Fabian leading the Third Company against Vior'la Tau.
Cassius' hatred for Tyrannies came after the Battle which was not long after the Tyranids first became known in the galaxy, so this game is only a few years before Cassius is recalled to Ultramar.
Titus technically is something... it be nice if he actually got more than being the most awesome Ultra but technically not cus THQ folded. He would get exiled then return gaining a new chapter at least according to one of the devs.
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