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 Pacific wrote:
Loki - real shame you couldn't get your group on board with Zombicide, have had so much fun with it it's just a very light-hearted, enjoyable game that doesn't take too much effort to play.

It's not that I can't get the interest, it's just that we play so infrequently that people like to use the miniatures they've been slaving over.

However, because I'm serially indecisive, I've decided to keep my pledge. I'm trying to cut back on how much I spend on Malifaux and Infinity until I get more painted, so sinking the months hobby money into a kickstarter than won't arrive for at least 6 months sounds better now. Also the value.

I might kick in extra for that Cyclops Spearmaiden because phwaor that's nice.

Almost through to the next goal, that shield widen has really brought the money in. We need a few more add ons to really start busting this loose.

Agreed!

CMON must surely see the value in adding on...add-ons!

And theres the bear. Grrr this thing is getting real tempting, which isnt good for someone who is broke :/

So are these things plastic or resin anyway? Looks like a mix or are they just showing resin things cause they havent shipped it off to be produced yet?

'Hard' PVC - see Blood Rage.

Not bad stuff, actually, and CMON has it down now.

Also:

Silence knows that the best course of action in a threatening situation is to move in the shadows, and move quickly! At level 3, he gets an extra Move action as long as he's in Shadow Mode. His attacks rarely miss their mark, since he gets a re-roll for any type of attack he makes. Finally, he may benefit for free from the Bloodmoon Nightrunner skill that stuns his enemy if any of his attacks roll a Bam.

Another $90K stretch goal too - !

So is it just me or are we now unlocking the alternate sex versions of the core boxes. We has whisper the female rogue and now we have silence the male thief .

While 90k stretch goals are annoying, it seems like maybe Black Plague had a little too much value. They might be trying to reign it back in a bit.

But 90k for 2 large wandering monsters and then 90k for a small player character seems a bit much.

Very nice miniature though.

The stretch goals will consistantly get bigger gaps, the more backers there are. We'll eventually get up to 140-175K a goal by the end of it.

Which makes me think there's only a limited amount of figures planned. The only way to find out his hit the goals hard and force them to reveal more. ;D

I think Silence will be the 6th character to fit into a PC-Box that will be for general sale.

CMON always have a fixed number of goals planned, sometimes they won't reach it but they always have them set out and will increase the gap between goals to space them out as needed.

I think CMON added some additional large creatures into Black Plague stretch goals that had not been planned as the sculpter created them with no instructions and offered them to CMON who loved them.

As much as it may seem counter intuitive, I appreciate CMON for doing that.

It means they have their costs exacted, they have their packaging down, and can dial in their expectations pretty accurately. All of this means a smooth roll out for with no hick-ups unless a warehouse floods or containers go into the ocean.

Just got my Black Plague second shipment... any thoughts of not getting MD just went out the window. It's GLORIOUS

I bought mine on ebay and it's going to show up at the office tomorrow.

Knight level + lots of add ons. More than KS price but not horrible. I kinda got lucky with that.

Definitely added the BP add on for MS. Extra play options!

 Theophony wrote:
I like the cyclops, the heroes less so. I think I'll still wait for retail as it will probably be the same or less and no shipping added.

Interesting that you're the opposite of me. I like Heroes a lot; cyclops, not so much. If you were local SoCal, I'd gladly split a box with you.

Spearmaidan Cyclops blog post - http://monster-zer0.blogspot.ie/
Jason designed this one himself and the art was done later from his design.

Rear picture - she's not wearing much (will there be complaints )

Thanks for sharing that. Not. I want the Cyclops even less.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Thanks for sharing that. Not. I want the Cyclops even less.

I want that for the effect its going to have on my friends, when I plonk it down on the table after we've had a few beers

Mymearan wrote:Just got my Black Plague second shipment... any thoughts of not getting MD just went out the window. It's GLORIOUS

It's bloody brilliant isn't it. Board games have moved on so much for the olden days, great times

Monster scale picture!

I like the Shieldmaiden cyclops, but I find it a bit odd that despite her using much more advanced weaponry, and having (somewhat) more clothing then her masculine counterpart, she has a much more 'monstrous' face then the male. It might just be her expression compared to his though.

I'm loving all the monsters they've come up with, and I want more! we have lycanthropes, elementals, and golems already, but would love to see those expanded on. Wereboar, werefox, clay golem, stone golem, smaller elemental entities. Feels like we need more classic dungeon beasts as well. I'm sure there are a bunch of copyrights to dance around from WotC, and such, but Beholder, Otyugh, umber hulk '-esque' creatures would be great!

I'm really pulling for a dragon at the end. We got several with the arcadia quest inferno KS, but would love to see a bunch here too.

Would it kill them to make textured bases? Painters having to rebase 200 minis just seems like a major killer. :(

 skullking wrote:
I'm really pulling for a dragon at the end.

I think CMoN repeatedly said "No Dragons," which I never understood. Everybody wants Dragons.

nkelsch wrote:
Would it kill them to make textured bases? Painters having to rebase 200 minis just seems like a major killer. :(

to give you a textured base would mean they couldn't do the minis as single piece casts anything like as easily (or at all), so either costs go up as assembly is needed in the factory, or boardgamers get sad as they need to glue/slot minis into bases

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

nkelsch wrote:
Would it kill them to make textured bases? Painters having to rebase 200 minis just seems like a major killer. :(

to give you a textured base would mean they couldn't do the minis as single piece casts anything like as easily (or at all), so either costs go up as assembly is needed in the factory, or boardgamers get sad as they need to glue/slot minis into bases

Only the infantry appear to be single peice casts. They've shown plenty of pictures of the resin masters for the monsters and they're in multiple pieces. It would be unwise to do things like the spider and the snake demon as single piece, as the legs/arms would break taking it out of the mold.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

nkelsch wrote:
Would it kill them to make textured bases? Painters having to rebase 200 minis just seems like a major killer. :(

to give you a textured base would mean they couldn't do the minis as single piece casts anything like as easily (or at all), so either costs go up as assembly is needed in the factory, or boardgamers get sad as they need to glue/slot minis into bases

I would have thought this to be true, but considering other companies have done the single-piece boardgame plastic with textured bases, I don't think that holds up anymore.

No joke, I have spent the past hour looking for a base company that makes an appropriate base in all the sizes for this KS and doing the math on what I will need to base all these figures. I can't find a decent dungeon round that is in every size needed. If they all had a basic texture like the DS or NAS Shrine ninja, it would be a non-issue.

I could always gravel and flock instead of cobblestone!

It doesn't have anything to do with the ability to cast; it has everything to do with the primary demographic (boardgamers) not having textured bases as a priority.

Many boardgamers prefer to clip them from the plastic and glue them to clear acrylic.

nkelsch wrote:
Would it kill them to make textured bases?

fwiw, Basius is running a textured base KS right now.

As for MD, yeah, it would drive up costs for separate bases. I'm guessing textured bases on integrated miniatures would be difficult because of undercuts. Dunno.

Myth and Super Dungeon Explore has separate textured bases, but you'd have to fill in the slot with putty. Some slotted models weren't fit into the bases correctly, so would have to be separated.

The Myth slotted textured bases were *bad*. You'd have the slotted tab of the miniature flat, and the textured base wavy. Yeah, that would be fun to fix on every single miniature. SDE sorta had the same problem.

Cthulhu Wars has separate textured bases, but you have to pry them off before painting to paint them a separate color. The pre-glued bases certainly got in the way of removing mold lines.

I liked Sedition War's separate textured bases, but MD is a boardgame, and boardgamers really don't like assembly.




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nkelsch wrote:
I would have thought this to be true, but considering other companies have done the single-piece boardgame plastic with textured bases, I don't think that holds up anymore.

Which ones? Definitely interested. Are the mini's at a cheap price? Want want want!

I know Reaper Bones have textured bases that are integral to the figure, but, I guess, with your Reaper KS pledge, all your money goes into the miniatures. With CMON, some of your money goes into the other boardgame components.

ced1106 wrote:
...but MD is a boardgame, and boardgamers really don't like assembly.

Understatement Of The Year, 2016 Finalist and current leader in the clubhouse!

 Alpharius wrote:

ced1106 wrote:
...but MD is a boardgame, and boardgamers really don't like assembly.

Understatement Of The Year, 2016 Finalist and current leader in the clubhouse!

You know, it's not just boardgamers...

Every miniatures gamer has a stash of unbuilt minis. Piles and stacks, even!

Why, if we were to poll them, the number of miniatures gamers who have built every kit they own, with nothing left to build is probably zero.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 skullking wrote:
I'm really pulling for a dragon at the end.

I think CMoN repeatedly said "No Dragons," which I never understood. Everybody wants Dragons.

I seriously don't understand the logic that they wouldn't want a dragon in the game. Unless they plan on having dragons the focus of a future KS, that would make sense I guess. I feel it needs some sort of REALLY big monster other than the snake demon lady thing.

B-holder!

 skullking wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 skullking wrote:
I'm really pulling for a dragon at the end.

I think CMoN repeatedly said "No Dragons," which I never understood. Everybody wants Dragons.

I seriously don't understand the logic that they wouldn't want a dragon in the game. Unless they plan on having dragons the focus of a future KS, that would make sense I guess. I feel it needs some sort of REALLY big monster other than the snake demon lady thing.

B-holder!

I think I'll freak out my buddies and drop Demogorgon on the board during one game, zombicide zombie for scale purposes.

Edit because I forgot the picture