Middle-earth SBG - Dunlendings

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**Azreal13**

Obligatory "My Precious, I wants it" reference.

I've been rewatching the trilogy, and finished last night. Having the actual battle refreshed in my memory, that starter set looks sort of anaemic now!

**godswildcard**

Slinky wrote:
Wallets around the world are just starting to work out how much trouble they are in

It's that dawning moment of realization, where my wallet realizes that all is not well as I quietly close the door behind me and latch it, that I live for.

**Davor**

These are not limited sets correct? While I may not be able to get them now, I should be able to get them later or is this a limited run? Just want to be prepared if I miss out and can't get it later because of a limited run and sold out.

**Ancestral Hamster**

A question, is this new Pelennor Fields box a starter for the scenario-driven game (where you replayed stuff from the Jackson films) or the build your own army game? It's the latter I'm interested in, not the former. I bought the Fellowship boxed starter back in the day, but never did anything with it.

**Papa-Schlumpf**

judgedoug wrote:
Middle-earth Dice Sets, first wave - ROHAN, MORDOR, and THE ONE RING

Man, the feels. I always wanted Rohan dice, but they were to expensive for a small batch for one guy. And here they are.

Time to finish some paint jobs and getting the horselords in battle shape.

SBG is truly coming home. And I´m glad that Adam Troke has his hands in this.

**godswildcard**

I am so ready for this. Bring it on!

**Cryonicleech**

Man, more than ever have I come to appreciate the simplicity of the SBG ruleset, but the only thing stopping me from jumping on this is trying to build interest in my local community.

That being said, the new plastic Theoden looks ace and I'm excited to get my hands on this.

**Inquisitor Gideon**

Quick question I don't think I've seen an answer for. But has the new Théoden been confirmed to be exclusive to the box? Or will he be available separately?

**judgedoug**

Ancestral Hamster wrote:
A question, is this new Pelennor Fields box a starter for the scenario-driven game (where you replayed stuff from the Jackson films) or the build your own army game? It's the latter I'm interested in, not the former. I bought the Fellowship boxed starter back in the day, but never did anything with it.

When asked if SBG will follow the new GW methodology of OPEN - NARRATIVE - MATCHED play, Adam said that SBG did that first, it just wasn't named as such, but we can expect the same thing as SBG has had for the last ten years. Play what you want, play the scenarios, or play points match competitions.

**NewTruthNeomaxim**

judgedoug wrote:
Ancestral Hamster wrote:
A question, is this new Pelennor Fields box a starter for the scenario-driven game (where you replayed stuff from the Jackson films) or the build your own army game? It's the latter I'm interested in, not the former. I bought the Fellowship boxed starter back in the day, but never did anything with it.

When asked if SBG will follow the new GW methodology of OPEN - NARRATIVE - MATCHED play, Adam said that SBG did that first, it just wasn't named as such, but we can expect the same thing as SBG has had for the last ten years. Play what you want, play the scenarios, or play points match competitions.

And unlike AoS which becomes broken as **** if you even look at it a bit too hard during narrative play, SBG actually WORKS at any size of game, in any mode. :-p

**OPULENCE**

Better look at the dice sets and accesories:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/09/9th-aug-middle-earth-dice-measurers-and-a-warlords-updatefw-homepage-post-2/

I really like them.

**Inquisitor Gideon**

Ha! The range measurers are awesome

Definitely going to have to pick up the Mordor and One dice, they're rather sexy looking.

**Hulksmash**

I'm going to get the dice because I love custom dice and they're pretty

I don't currently play LoTR but the new launch is tempting me.

**Dark Apostle 666**

Oh dear god I may actually be tempted to buy custom dice - the mordor ones especially! First time I have ever been tempted, but they are NICE dice!

**His Master's Voice**

Why are they so pretty? Why?!

**godswildcard**

Dang. Must have e those dice. Definitely the Rohan and Mordor ones. May get the One Ring set to use for my Angmar too.

Well played, GW, well played. This is getting to be a more and more expensive release for me...

**Dark Apostle 666**

Still, on the bright side, at least all the money we give to GW should encourage them to keep it going - I'm still of the opinion that the SBG ruleset is the best system GW has produced (at least that I have played), and I really hope the launch/relaunch is a success.

**tneva82**

I just wish there were opponents to play with here but so far nobody has shown much interest :(

**Snrub**

Those range finders are adorable. Going to have to pick a pack just for gaks and giggles if nothing else.

**MangoMadness**

Interesting that the dice are square cornered instead of the usual rounded corners of other GW dice

**jonolikespie**

MangoMadness wrote:
Interesting that the dice are square cornered instead of the usual rounded corners of other GW dice

And the icons seem to be on the 6, not the 1.

**Mymearan**

The icon as always on the 6 nowadays for all GW games. They started doing these large (16mm?), square dice quite a while ago and randomly do them instead of the usual ones for faction dice.

**tneva82**

That's standard for FW as they know the sensible location for the symbol. Thank god. Might get those with that. Never ever if they are on 1's.

**judgedoug**

MangoMadness wrote:
Interesting that the dice are square cornered instead of the usual rounded corners of other GW dice

That's why I bought several sets of GW's Maelstrom dice. Nice square edges!

**Eldarain**

Glad they have the symbols on the sixes. That always irked me about GW's earlier dice.

The only set I got from that time was the Deathwatch dice but rerolling ones features so heavily in their mechanics that it felt better in that instance.

**Inquisitor Gideon**

Just a quick note, if anyone is going to Ardacon at the weekend (or knows anyone who can third party) FW are going to be selling the Morannon captains and The Swan Knights early there.

**reds8n**

via FB, allegedly from someone/people who were at Ardacon

NEW LOTR SBG CHANGES
-All profiles changed completely
-Tweaks to magic
-New Heroic actions
-Buidling armies radically changed
-Army special rules
-Warriors of Rohan don't change
-Minas tirith warriors gain shield wall
-New one profile Elrond
-Balrog changed and according to comments by Jay Clare seemingly competitive
-All models now have keywords
-Some special rules will only follow other warriors with similar keywords, elf standfast effecting elves but not humans/
-Heroic Tiers
-Theoden is a hero of legend
-Heroes of legend are meant to lead armies.
-Warband size 18 , and additional rule for courage, if you have a Hero of legend, on a turn you would test for courage all in the force pass*
-Universal heroic actions (move,shoot,combat)
-Specialized heroic actions only certain characters can do.
-Captains may lose the ability to do certain special strikes
-New actions - Heroic Resolve, Heroic Strength, Heroic Challenge, Heroic Defense (Model only wounded on natural 6's)
-Magic, all spells re balanced, all powers in main book and all have a channeled version
-Sorcerous blast will now stop after the target model makes first contact
-New spell, Protection of the valor, caster or friend within three inches cannot be target by spells, the channeled version of this is all friendlily within three
-Ally Matrix
-Historical alliances , Impossible alliances.
-Confirmed army bonus's, Rohan- +1 strength to cav on the charge.
Ents- Fearless, Immune to all move impeding effects and some magic.
Harad- 50% bows still good, warriors and raiders get poison rule on main melee weapon
Mordor- +1 courage, reroll ones when outnumber opponent
-Special strike, tinkered with.
-New Theoden profile, M6,F5/4, S4,D5,A2,W2,C5 3 might and will 1 fate
-Questions from the Q&A
-Armies of the hobbit coming soon.
-Banishment spell available for more then just galadrial
-Sap will harder to cast
-Nazgul changing
-Everyarmy is a viable option.
-Every profile has weapons assigned to them! (Now more Galadrial with axe)
- Hurls now throw the model DIRECTLY AWAY.
- Army of the dead a viable solo army (via rules like the denizens of mirlwood list)
-Warrior upgrades still around and new ones added
-Eagles a lot better, arguably better then fellbeasts
-Throwing weapons no more -1 when throwing on the charge
-Character upgrades for models apply to only those in warband (redshields etc)

**Motograter**

You can regain spent will while casting on natural roll of a 6.
Balrogs resistant to fire
Army of the dead have no captains

**Oppl**

Can anyone familiar with the last ruleset for LOTR tell me what difference a potential 'shield wall' function for WOMT would make?

Gondor is my favourite faction and I have a massive painted army, but when I last played they were pretty weak for a heavily-armoured force of well-trained warriors. Would this make your regular WOMT a bit more tough then?

Excited to hear more news and get back stuck into this terrific world. Perry's work, while suffering from soft details and the rest, is still one of my favourite ever wargaming ranges.

**NewTruthNeomaxim**

Shield Wall, assuming its like Iron-Hill Dwarves, would be Defense +1 when they're base-to-base with two other friendlies with the rule.

It definitely changes how you play in a tactical interesting way.

I can confirm most of these changes btw, without saying anything I shouldn't. :-p Its a bigger revision than I expected, but I haven't seen a tweak yet that I didn't believe would leave the game in a healthier place for years to come.