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2016/07/05 05:55:42
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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teban wrote:On the melta thing, What I do, is I apply a black wash on the whole muzzle, then brown wash half-way and finally a purple wash at the very end of the muzzle.
Cool, thanks for the tip!
teban wrote:That green is looking good . What are you going to do with that yellow? If I recall correctly, you have painting yellow
evildrcheese wrote:Mantis Warrior is looking good. Solid green and yellow really pops.
EDC
Thanks guys. I'm trying to exercise patience with that yellow. I'd like to say he's about 50% done at this point but…you know how it goes.
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This message was edited 6 times. Last update was at 2016/07/05 08:19:47
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2016/07/05 09:41:43
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Imperial Agent Provocateur
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I think the Mantis Warriors never actually turned to Chaos, they just backed the wrong horse during the Badab Wars and fought along side the Astral Claws because they were close allies. Either way, it's looking good
The Astral Claws did turn and became the Red Corsairs. That could be an interesting addition to your collection. They're space pirates too, so I don't think it would be so unlikely that they would steal armour from their enemies like you were suggesting before.
I also found this image for inspiration, but unfortunately couldn't find a description anywhere :(
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2016/07/05 11:55:45
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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juptrking wrote:I think the Mantis Warriors never actually turned to Chaos, they just backed the wrong horse during the Badab Wars and fought along side the Astral Claws because they were close allies. Either way, it's looking good
The Astral Claws did turn and became the Red Corsairs. That could be an interesting addition to your collection. They're space pirates too, so I don't think it would be so unlikely that they would steal armour from their enemies like you were suggesting before.
Awesome! I actually just finished a Red Corsairs aspiring champion. My thought process behind including a mantis warrior (and my having considered a lamenter) is based on the addition of a Red Corsair to my warband. As you noted, they backed the astral claws in the badab war out of loyalty to their long time allies, so I thought what if these two particular marines were especially close and, even after the Mantis Warriors sought to return to the good graces of the imperium, their bond led this marine to follow his friend even at the cost of his soul and sanity.
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2016/07/05 12:07:08
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Imperial Agent Provocateur
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Ah man, that'll teach me for opening my big mouth before reading the whole thread!
That makes sense, a shattered legion sort of thing.
Have you seen the Blackshield transfers that Forge World has been putting out lately? That could make a great addition, you'd have a lot of freedom with the iconography. They remind me of the freeblades of the Imperial Knights, fighting for their own cause.
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2016/07/05 16:45:09
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Hey, I liked the burnt effect, so I started using a purplish blue (transparent) wash leaving some silvery behind it towards the main gun body, so it looks like the metal-blue-use a ancient bronze(tin bitz), then finish off with the end blackened as you did there.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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2016/07/05 23:25:00
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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juptrking wrote:Ah man, that'll teach me for opening my big mouth before reading the whole thread!
That makes sense, a shattered legion sort of thing.
Have you seen the Blackshield transfers that Forge World has been putting out lately? That could make a great addition, you'd have a lot of freedom with the iconography. They remind me of the freeblades of the Imperial Knights, fighting for their own cause.
Yah, exactly. I've got a lot of fluff in mind for them. I'll get around to writing it all down at some point
Thanks for the tip, I hadn't seen the blackshield stuff before.
shasolenzabi wrote:Hey, I liked the burnt effect, so I started using a purplish blue (transparent) wash leaving some silvery behind it towards the main gun body, so it looks like the metal-blue-use a ancient bronze(tin bitz), then finish off with the end blackened as you did there.
Thanks Shas. I really like the "heat" effect you described, honestly I wanted to try it but it looked a bit harder... I chickened out
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2016/07/06 00:59:35
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Once you learn how easy it can be, you will never fear it again
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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2016/07/06 02:16:23
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Dakka Veteran
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Just a quick update on my traitor Mantis Warriors marine
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2016/07/06 04:41:46
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Looking good man, like the Mantis Warrior in particular, they have a very striking scheme
It's also nice to see a force of armour-thieves that isn't the 13th Company
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2016/07/06 05:51:57
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Pious Palatine
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Highlights on the green are looking great.
EDC
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2016/07/06 06:32:28
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Dakka Veteran
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I was worried they were a little stark, considering doing a midtone glaze over the armor. Any thoughts?
Kurnost wrote:Looking good man, like the Mantis Warrior in particular, they have a very striking
Thanks Kurnost.
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2016/07/07 08:06:13
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Dakka Veteran
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A bit more progress...
Sorry for the low quality pics, it's not very apparent, but I even out the shadow to highlight transitions with a little glazing and did a bit more detail work. I'll do my best to get some good pics when I finish him up.
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2016/07/07 09:13:46
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Imperial Agent Provocateur
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Looking good, I think the yellow really helps him stand out (and differentiates him from his Nurgle ally). Are you going to attempt a freehand Chapter badge next? If so, good luck! I'll attempt the Star Phantoms badge too out of solidarity
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2016/07/07 09:24:24
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Been Around the Block
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You've edge highlighted (really well) in green on parts of the model that I'd do metallic, like the shoulder pad rims. Deliberate?
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2016/07/07 10:36:29
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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thebuilder wrote:You've edge highlighted (really well) in green on parts of the model that I'd do metallic, like the shoulder pad rims. Deliberate?
Thanks builder. All my reference pics for Mantis Warriors showed them that way, but there will be a good bit of metal showings when finished as I plan to weather this figure (relatively) heavily.
juptrking wrote:Looking good, I think the yellow really helps him stand out (and differentiates him from his Nurgle ally). Are you going to attempt a freehand Chapter badge next? If so, good luck! I'll attempt the Star Phantoms badge too out of solidarity
Thanks juptr, I am indeed going to attempt the chapter symbol and your show of solidarity is greatly appreciated
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2016/07/07 15:57:44
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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The flamer can also benefit from that "Burnt" look
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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2016/07/07 16:01:37
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Battleship Captain
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The weapons are a little flat. But that yellow is awesome.
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2016/07/07 16:10:25
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Never Forget Isstvan!
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Looking good so far! I second the heat weathering on the flamer it is super easy and makes them look great
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2016/07/07 19:42:18
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Dakka Veteran
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cormadepanda wrote:The weapons are a little flat. But that yellow is awesome.
that's because I hadn't painted it yet, when I took the last update picture the weapons just had a base coat of generic metal color. I promise it looks much better now. And thanks for the compliment, that yellow was a bother
shasolenzabi wrote:The flamer can also benefit from that "Burnt" look
Ustrello wrote:Looking good so far! I second the heat weathering on the flamer it is super easy and makes them look great
Thanks guys, I plan to give it another try, hopefully with an improved end result.
Another update: Now I just have to do a bit of (dreaded) freehand on the shoulder pads and then weather the armor and he'll be ready for basing.
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2016/07/08 10:25:43
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Dakka Veteran
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Here's my finished Mantis Warriors traitor marine. Feedback welcome!
Heretic Tom
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2016/07/08 11:29:53
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Looking good Tom, I like the corrupted Mantic/Tactical symbols a lot. The green is nice as well. Only thing I would recommend is a little tidy up on the black rim of the base.
I am going to stop looking at the rotate-y photo as I am now feeling a bit queasy...
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2016/07/08 21:10:08
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Thraxas Of Turai wrote:Looking good Tom, I like the corrupted Mantic/Tactical symbols a lot. The green is nice as well. Only thing I would recommend is a little tidy up on the black rim of the base.
I am going to stop looking at the rotate-y photo as I am now feeling a bit queasy...
Thanks thraxas, I will definitely clean the base up a bit. I hadn't noticed how much adhesive residue that tape left behind. Also, sorry about your motion sickness
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2016/07/10 06:39:29
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband - Mantis Warriors Traitor Finished
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Dakka Veteran
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Next in line…this CSM is meant to be one of the few surviving members of the Blades of Rage Warband
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2016/07/24 09:27:29
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2016/07/11 06:36:58
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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It's going to be a busy week, but I'm going to try to finish my Blades of Rage marine by the weekend and get started on another csm. With only 5 figures left unfinished, out of the two sets I picked up to get started, I find myself more and more anxious to complete them. Then I get to start trying to decide what to grab next. I'd really like to add a corrupted inquisitor and a daemonhost to this motley vanguard.
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2016/07/11 07:13:53
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Pious Palatine
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Nice work on the Mantis Warrior, like what you've done with the battle damage.
EDC
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2016/07/11 09:32:58
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Imperial Agent Provocateur
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The Mantis Warrior is looking great, the chapter badge/weathering trick worked a treat too. Rogue Inquisitor sounds good to me, a great opportunity to make a really unique mini.
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2016/07/11 16:38:59
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Blades of rage guy looks interesting, dual wielding chain swords!
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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2016/07/12 19:41:49
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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Love the mantis warrior ToM! I really like how bright the red is in contrast, it might not be realistic gore but i like it a ton. Also very very much like the really jacked up shoulder pads. Your progress is very evident!! Keep up the work man!
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2016/07/13 01:38:11
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Dakka Veteran
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evildrcheese wrote:Nice work on the Mantis Warrior, like what you've done with the battle damage.
EDC
Thanks EDC, much appreciated.
juptrking wrote:The Mantis Warrior is looking great, the chapter badge/weathering trick worked a treat too. Rogue Inquisitor sounds good to me, a great opportunity to make a really unique mini.
Thanks, freehanding the chapter symbol went about like I expected, luckily so did my plan to hide it
shasolenzabi wrote:Blades of rage guy looks interesting, dual wielding chain swords!
Right?! Thanks man, glad to know it wasn't just me
bebopdrums2424 wrote:Love the mantis warrior ToM! I really like how bright the red is in contrast, it might not be realistic gore but i like it a ton. Also very very much like the really jacked up shoulder pads. Your progress is very evident!! Keep up the work man!
Thanks bebop, I appreciate it! I was mostly pleased with how he came out. I have a tendency to be very critical of my own work, but I try to keep reminding myself that given my lack of experience and quality supplies, I'm doing alright.
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2016/07/24 09:19:59
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Here is my Blades of Rage Chaos Space Marine, not my cleanest looking paint job but I did learn a lesson or two doing this one and hopefully that will be apparent in my future efforts.
One of the only Chaos Marines to survive the First War for Armageddon, and perhaps the last surviving member of the Blades of Rage warband, his only concern is finding more blood for the blood god...and the occasional skull for the skull throne. But mostly blood
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