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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 13:54:53
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Fresh-Faced New User
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locarno24 wrote:Maybe my ancient Epic hit location dice will make a long due return to the table?
Depends. If they copy Godbreaker Clash, then no; whilst there's up/left, down/right rolls, they vary with what action you're doing - so a 'standard' attack hits on a 3-4, an 'aimed' attack on a 2-5 and a 'snap attack' always scatters.
I would love them to do datasheets for the Wraithknight, Gorkanaut and Lord Of Skulls to go with it - it's actually a really, really fun little game. It even self-balances - you can take or not take a carapace weapon, for example, because not taking one costs you a weapon system but makes you a smaller target.
Will definitely consider getting this. Hell, the fact that it's a full Imperial Knight army for a couple of hundred quid is awesome.
Using the 'boxed games' as a way to do discounts without doing discounts is fair enough if they're not being allowed to do flat out 'price drops'.
It reminds me of discussions I had with some people from forge world at games day, when they were still verboten from doing 'horus heresy' stuff, so they started doing the Badab War series instead, featuring chapters who fielded many old marks of armour (I'm looking at you, minotaurs and red scorpions) and often had shoulder icons which looked suspiciously like first founding legions in a different colour (and that's you, sons of medusa).
The 'start collecting' boxes are cool, too. I get that GW has to be profitable, but at the same time, if I can buy a box for a price not dissimilar to a 1st tier computer game, and have enough of an army to make me want to get the rest, GW wins. Staring up a 2,000 point 'hill' from the bottom with no cheap way into it means I don't start the army at all.
I missed this first time around so looked it up, It really reminds me of how Epic use to deal with titans and how vechiles were in RT. They should trial this game, get feedback than adapt it into 8th edition, that'll sort out the vechile vs MC issues
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 13:58:27
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Phew, good thing I don't fancy the Knight that much, this month was expensive enough already. Now if they did that with Baneblades...gak.
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Looking for a Skaven Doomwheel banner to repair my Nurgle knights. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 14:08:10
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Just bring back Epic and Titan Legions, already. A two-mini wargame that could be done as a boardgame with 28mm figures is a bit zany.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 14:14:44
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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For those who have one, that new sprue they made for the Knight, would one of them work across two Knights? I mean only one missile launcher, sure, but if one has the ML are there are enough bitz to give the other one the TL-Autocannon?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 14:22:12
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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How inured are people now to GW's prices where they can bundle a couple of models together, knock a bit of money off the massively inflated RRP and suddenly, it's a massive bargain? It only seems a bargain because the price is artificially high in the first place. I really wish GW would take a long hard look and conduct a root and branch price review for the express purpose of growing their games and customer base rather than constantly jacking prices up and then bundling stuff together to make it seem like you are getting a great deal. Hoping against hope, I guess.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 14:24:03
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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filbert wrote:How inured are people now to GW's prices where they can bundle a couple of models together, knock a bit of money off the massively inflated RRP and suddenly, it's a massive bargain?
Well then you go and buy that "massive bargain" from a discounter. 20% off something that's reduced by 40%? I can live with that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 14:24:15
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Been Around the Block
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So it s written renegade knight may be gw give us rules for chaos after!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/04/11 14:38:36
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 14:25:52
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Exactly, if Darksphere do 20% off then that whole kit will come in at £96.00, which is a bargain for what you're getting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 14:28:14
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Experienced Maneater
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filbert wrote:How inured are people now to GW's prices where they can bundle a couple of models together, knock a bit of money off the massively inflated RRP and suddenly, it's a massive bargain? It only seems a bargain because the price is artificially high in the first place. I really wish GW would take a long hard look and conduct a root and branch price review for the express purpose of growing their games and customer base rather than constantly jacking prices up and then bundling stuff together to make it seem like you are getting a great deal. Hoping against hope, I guess.
120 GBP for 2 Knights and one bit of scenery is still too much? I have seen the Knight sprues and the completed models, a kit of this size for 55 GBP (one Knight and minus scenery)? I think that's pretty good. Reduce it by further 20% from resellers. That IS a bargain, no matter the initial RRP of a single Knight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 15:11:06
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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H.B.M.C. wrote:For those who have one, that new sprue they made for the Knight, would one of them work across two Knights? I mean only one missile launcher, sure, but if one has the ML are there are enough bitz to give the other one the TL-Autocannon?
If one has the ML then the other can be given the Icarus autocannons, yes.
You'll only have enough parts to build a single Thunderstrike Gauntlet, as that's specific to the Knight-Warden sprue but you'd be able to build two Reaper Chainblades if you wanted to.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 15:22:21
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Holy gak, €165 for two Knights and a building?
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 15:23:10
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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filbert wrote:How inured are people now to GW's prices where they can bundle a couple of models together, knock a bit of money off the massively inflated RRP and suddenly, it's a massive bargain? It only seems a bargain because the price is artificially high in the first place. I really wish GW would take a long hard look and conduct a root and branch price review for the express purpose of growing their games and customer base rather than constantly jacking prices up and then bundling stuff together to make it seem like you are getting a great deal. Hoping against hope, I guess.
You are obviously very jaded/biased on this topic, but I just want to point out one thing.
Objectively, GW's models are usually worth the price.
I say this from a comparative point of view. Go find any other models at a similar scale or size with the same detail.
Pro-tio, you can't. GW's models are some of the best quality in the world. I actually own an Imperial Knight, and after having built many Gundam models, and seen a large amount of WWll models they is just no way to compare them. GW models bring a lot of detail to the table with a high level of customization. You can say that they are too expensive for us gamers (I agree) but you can't say they are not worth their value. That's just being close-minded on the subject.
Tldr; GW prices their kits as models first and foremost, and the prices fit that view.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 15:39:28
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Calculating Commissar
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If this was in Epic scale, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. A 2 model game when the models are that big? Nah; there are going to be better gladiator style games out there.
I'd maybe buy a cheap Knight just to paint/display, but I've got no need for 2 of them. This might land me one from the box splitters though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 16:09:45
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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Damn. That's a good deal...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 16:19:11
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I am kinda glad I sold my knight a few weeks ago, this is actually a good deal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 16:30:33
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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Herzlos wrote:If this was in Epic scale, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. A 2 model game when the models are that big? Nah; there are going to be better gladiator style games out there.
I'd maybe buy a cheap Knight just to paint/display, but I've got no need for 2 of them. This might land me one from the box splitters though.
If t was in Epic scale it would be called Adeptus Titanicus and you would want to run proper sized titans.
I'm building/Painting a FW Castigator at the moment and really enjoying it. I have no problem with getting two more knights at these prices....and me with a birthday coming up!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 17:17:08
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Could I use this to build one knight as a Crusader and the other as a Warden? Also, I like the appearance of the Gauntlet, but hate its rules. Do you think I would encounter friction if I said it had the chainsword, even though it had the Gauntlet? Especially given that the other knight wouldn't have a CCW?
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5250 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 17:32:21
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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No. There's only one Gatling Cannon. You could do a Paladin or Errant instead of the Crusader though. Or you could do a Crusader and Gallant.
Also, I like the appearance of the Gauntlet, but hate its rules. Do you think I would encounter friction if I said it had the chainsword, even though it had the Gauntlet? Especially given that the other knight wouldn't have a CCW?
I wouldn't just straight up take the Gauntlet and proxy it, just because that's kinda weird.
If you attempted to convert a 'chainfist' though...different story.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 17:40:13
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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I'd be in on this... have always wanted to paint a knight but just had no excuse to buy one... but 40% off two of em WITH terrain? Yup. GW making another good move IMHO.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 17:44:25
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Missionary On A Mission
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Gladiator style combat eh?
10 points to the first person who makes a Solaris VII themed table and convert their knights into proper looking Battlemechs
I have dreamed of running a Axeman for so long now...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 18:11:09
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Unless you are a completionist, this is an extremely nice bundle, yes. I, sadly, will have to pass...I need two gatling guns, not one :| Unless some1 from my FLG will want to split and take the lame ass Knight variant...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 18:15:49
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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MrFlutterPie wrote:Gladiator style combat eh?
10 points to the first person who makes a Solaris VII themed table and convert their knights into proper looking Battlemechs
I have dreamed of running a Axeman for so long now...
Hm... The Factory or Jungle?
If you used the old Tyco Axman toy the Knights would be about Urbanmech size in comparison. Could be a fun game if you came up with the right stats for the bigger Axman!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 18:16:09
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Kanluwen wrote:
No. There's only one Gatling Cannon. You could do a Paladin or Errant instead of the Crusader though. Or you could do a Crusader and Gallant.
Also, I like the appearance of the Gauntlet, but hate its rules. Do you think I would encounter friction if I said it had the chainsword, even though it had the Gauntlet? Especially given that the other knight wouldn't have a CCW?
I wouldn't just straight up take the Gauntlet and proxy it, just because that's kinda weird.
If you attempted to convert a 'chainfist' though...different story.
Crap, I forgot the Avenger Gatling was base and the battle cannon was the option. I had it backwards in my head. I think I would do a Paladin with a Reaper Chainsword and combine the Chainsword and Gauntlet to make a chainfist for the Warden. Another option would be to build an handle onto the Chainsword and turn it into a literal Chainsword for the Warden.
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5250 pts
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Imperial Knights: 375 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 18:56:46
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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At a price like that, I don't think I can say no! I need more terrain and I've wanted a Knight for a while anyway - may as well get two for that price!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 20:20:05
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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What's the release date for this going to be?
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 20:25:48
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 20:29:00
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Just after payday..
Cheers!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 21:20:52
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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I like this. Everyone is talking about the Knights, but I like the idea of GW throwing in terrain like this. Everyone needs terrain but it always seems to be that thing a lot of people end up most reluctant to buy. If GW continues throwing in some building sprues beyond this set, the idea of slowly acquiring enough for a solid table full of terrain over time has an appeal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 21:25:06
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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aka_mythos wrote:I like this. Everyone is talking about the Knights, but I like the idea of GW throwing in terrain like this. Everyone needs terrain but it always seems to be that thing a lot of people end up most reluctant to buy. If GW continues throwing in some building sprues beyond this set, the idea of slowly acquiring enough for a solid table full of terrain over time has an appeal.
The terrain is an added bonus. I would love for the Aquila Strongpoint to come with Quake Cannon Craters. I could see Guard platoons coming with a bunker or something.
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Imperial Knights: 375 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 21:27:46
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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This sounds like GW's version of an old classic...
Do want.
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