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 Bottle wrote:
The app description reads as follows in my eyes:

A paid for app that has an interactive roster which includes all the treasure, skills and hero cards of the original game. Use this to track your character's progress.

IAP of new hero cards, new skills and new treasure to broaden your game content.

Sounds great!

Yeah, exactly what you should infer for "new skills" ...

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
So can anyone make out any of the text on that page? Because I certainly can't.

Weapons have a range, to hit and damage stat.
Heros have move, save and agility stats.
Side talks about the heroes, gaining abilities, treasure cards; nothing juicy stands out.
Heroes gain reknown. They also have unique traits.

I think digital-only content for a board game is kind of a pity given the tactile nature of tabletop gaming.

Eye of fate: Forsee (3+?): Put a status marker on this card until the end of the round. While it is there you can reroll saves of 1. If your hero is Celestial, other players in the same chamber can do the same.

Eye of Phoros: Discard to add 1 to the results of any attack rolls for this turn

Knight Questor: Guard Stance (3+): Put the dice here until the end of the round. While there your save is 3+, rather than 4+.
Knight Questor: Traits: Celestial and Unrelenting.
Knight Questor: Something about targeting an enemy within 3 squares and spending one of your dice with a 4 or more... it is too blurry to read.
Knight Questor Warblade/Combat/Hits: 3+, damage (3?)
Knight Questor Thunder?? Strike Combat, Hits ?+, Damage ?

Mistweaver: Glimmermist 3+. Put the dice here (I think it says showing the score?) Until the end of the round any attacks that hit the Mistweaver or another hero on the same tile miss if it is exactly the same as the dice on the marker dice.
Traits: Arcane and ?
Can't make out the weapons or renown.

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It seems it will be very easy to adapt warscrolls to the game, eh?

I would love a box set with 20 of those gobbos in the future.

 NAVARRO wrote:
I would love a box set with 20 of those gobbos in the future.

Here's hoping we get them and Tzaangors separately at the very least!

Eye of Fate

Flashes of the future are revealed to your minds eye warning of dangers to come

3+ Foresee: Put a status marker on this card till the end of the round. While there you can reroll saves rolls of 1. If your character is celestial other characters in the same chamber can do the same

sadysaneto wrote:
It seems it will be very easy to adapt warscrolls to the game, eh?

I thought so too. I would love to be able to expand on the game with stuff I already have.

 Manchu wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
I would love a box set with 20 of those gobbos in the future.

Here's hoping we get them and Tzaangors separately at the very least!

I can pretty much guarantee that we will. Betrayal at Calth and Deathwatch are still relatively new, so they haven't split the contents out like they did with Execution Force.

I am not so sure, we have seen nothing released individually from the AOS boxed set, and it is nearly a year from release. Now new boxes of new Tzaaangor etc sculpts? I can see that happening as we have seen that with almost everything from the AOS box.

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
I am not so sure, we have seen nothing released individually from the AOS boxed set, and it is nearly a year from release. Now new boxes of new Tzaaangor etc sculpts? I can see that happening as we have seen that with almost everything from the AOS box.

We saw the Lord-Celestant on Dracoth released not long ago(he's buildable from the Dracoth Guard box), we've seen Blood Warriors, Blood Reavers, Liberators, Prosecutors, and Retributors. The stuff we saw wasn't "new boxes of new sculpts", it was just them putting one specific build into the box.

We haven't seen the Khorgorath and Bloodstoker, the Bloodsecrator, the Lord Relictor, or the one specific setup of the Lord of Khorne(axe and Flesh Hound).

Yup, that is what I said. Your Calth/Deathwatch post suggested to me that you meant the specific plastic minis from those sets, not the new sculpts (a la Blood Warriors) etc that we both suggested. Seems like we just misunderstood each other's posts.

As for Execution Force everything bar the Assassins was previously available anyway.

 Manchu wrote:
I think digital-only content for a board game is kind of a pity given the tactile nature of tabletop gaming.

This. Entirely this.
I personally hate digital app integration with board games.
I'm thinking ahead to decades in the future.
App support will eventually drop.
iPads will eventually be obsolete.
If the game requires the app in order for the gamer to have the complete experience, then the game is a product of the present, and its future is bleak and unknown.

I hate that.

Give me paper and ink any day.

If the App is just *another way* to track game information and is not the only means of acquiring new content, I won't have a problem with it.

I will be very sad if they don't print treasure card decks and make those available for purchase.
And how would you place dice on character cards if they were just on the app (some abilities require this, based on the spoilers we've seen)?
They had better print those and make them purchasable... :(

If they don't, I at least hope there will be a way for me to buy the DLC and grab the graphics so that I can print them myself...

Ergh. Will have to wait and see.

Going by what else is in the market and how GW handle the AoS app, my money would be on a 'character pack' that includes rules, skills, items, etc., but also the option to buy them separately - although the combined individual price will be higher than the discounted 'packs'.

I do not understand how are we suppose to work with the app in regards to the character sheet. So if I buy the game to play with friends and want to play with all new characters, do I need an app from each player, or are we suppose to print the character sheet?

They could do something more akin to Fantasy Flight app for Descent, where the app controls the dungeon master side of the game.

 NAVARRO wrote:
I would love a box set with 20 of those gobbos in the future.

It seems like almost everyone else hates those models so you should be able to pick up lots for cheap once people start splitting up the box contents to sell separately 2nd hand.

I'll be keeping an eye out for all those leftover goblin spider thingees.

Should be nice and cheap with the amount of hate they've gotten around here!

Small gripe... Silver Tower: not Silver -

ruhe.bryan wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
I think digital-only content for a board game is kind of a pity given the tactile nature of tabletop gaming.

This. Entirely this.
I personally hate digital app integration with board games.
I'm thinking ahead to decades in the future.
App support will eventually drop.
iPads will eventually be obsolete.
If the game requires the app in order for the gamer to have the complete experience, then the game is a product of the present, and its future is bleak and unknown.

I hate that.

Give me paper and ink any day.

If the App is just *another way* to track game information and is not the only means of acquiring new content, I won't have a problem with it.

I will be very sad if they don't print treasure card decks and make those available for purchase.
And how would you place dice on character cards if they were just on the app (some abilities require this, based on the spoilers we've seen)?
They had better print those and make them purchasable... :(

If they don't, I at least hope there will be a way for me to buy the DLC and grab the graphics so that I can print them myself...

Ergh. Will have to wait and see.

I recently picked up an i-pad app to replace my malfunctioning Dark Tower. Down the road someone will make an app (or spreadsheet) to replace apps now long dead.

I'm not at all concerned about the app; as long as the boardgame itself has enough to keep me occupied, I can make the rest up if I run out things to do - its not like it's going to be hard to make this stuff up for our own games - and it'll probably be better balanced than anything GW comes up with anyways.

For me, the big question is if this will be compatible with the old Warhammer Quest (and its add-ons). If it is, then the only issue I have is setting aside enough to purchase this before it sells out.

seems theres no leveling up? that would be a dealbreaker for me

Levelling up has been mentioned in the app details and some of the other leaked character info

I'll trade two gobbos for one cultist/beastman/horrorif anyone wants those weird buggers. If not I'll make them even weirder and run them as bug mutants

PS: Pointing Gnoblar with a Skaven cleaver and the old moonface banner top = great little guy. My first Tzeentch ever conversion, happening by accident.

I get a ton of mileage out of the AoS app, so I have decent expectations for the WHQ one.

 endtransmission wrote:
Levelling up has been mentioned in the app details and some of the other leaked character info

I honestly cant see how to level with this sheet.

Unless, OFC, there are more than one for each hero

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And again, once they're out in the wild, why would I need to pay for them? Couldn't I just say that my Dwyvyn Fyrslyr has the skill, and write it down myself? Why am I paying actual money to add a rule to a unit?

Paying money for individual rules? Are you kidding me? This needs expanding upon, because this sounds like the worst kind of exploititive microtransaction bull gak I've ever heard.

I mean, if you bought an online Space Wolf Codex that then asked you to pay extra money before it added the Long Fang unit to the Codex, and more money for each Heavy Weapon choice, for a table top game, would you stand for it?

Agreed, it sounds horrible. GW are so obsessed with grabbing every penny that falls out of their customer pockets, that they don't see the huge pile of cash just in front of them.. I don't think this new app will brings in more than few 10k of $. I think it would have been a lot more profitabe for them to only use this as a marketing tool: to justify the cost of their already too expensaive heroes clampack. and to bring in new blood.

sadysaneto wrote:

 endtransmission wrote:
Levelling up has been mentioned in the app details and some of the other leaked character info

I honestly cant see how to level with this sheet.

Unless, OFC, there are more than one for each hero

If it is anything like the last edition (or dungeon saga and Descent) that card will be the level one/intro sheet with levelling info in one of the books. They have explicitly mentioned spending Renown to gain skills during a campaign and using the app to help track this

 streetsamurai wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And again, once they're out in the wild, why would I need to pay for them? Couldn't I just say that my Dwyvyn Fyrslyr has the skill, and write it down myself? Why am I paying actual money to add a rule to a unit?

Paying money for individual rules? Are you kidding me? This needs expanding upon, because this sounds like the worst kind of exploititive microtransaction bull gak I've ever heard.

I mean, if you bought an online Space Wolf Codex that then asked you to pay extra money before it added the Long Fang unit to the Codex, and more money for each Heavy Weapon choice, for a table top game, would you stand for it?

Agreed, it sounds horrible. GW are so obsessed with grabbing every penny that falls out of their customer pockets, that they don't see the huge pile of cash just in front of them.. I don't think this new app will brings in more than few 10k of $. I think it would have been a lot more profitabe for them to only use this as a marketing tool: to justify the cost of their already too expensaive heroes clampack. and to bring in new blood.

Except we don't know they are doing that. I can understand being apprehensive about what they might do but this comment makes it seem like you have already determined they will release the absolute worst-case scenario. Do you have extra information? Please share if so!

It sounds like you can gain skills and items in the course of the campaign, but there really is no "leveling up" aside from that.

Based on the card, I'm guessing at the beginning of your turn your roll four dice and put them in those boxes with their scores showing. Then you can spend them to perform actions, but the score on the die you spend has to match the score of the action. For example, you'd need to spend a die that rolled a 6 to perform Bedazzle.

Also, I suspect the nine missions are sort of a linked campaign, like with Deathwatch, rather than generic reusable scenarios. Original Warhammer Quest I believe had 30 scenarios, that could be played randomly in any order and repeated over time.

I think this game is going to be much more limited in scope than Warhammer Quest, and really just focused on playing through the campaign storyline, with very limited character advancement.