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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
UK:
Bloodthirster - £70
Lord of Change - £70

OZ:
Bloodthirster - $170 (£102, or 145% the cost, but ignore that for now).
Lord of Change - $190 (£114, or 162% the cost)

Why is the Lord of Change price in Oz different to the Bloodthirster price?

Kiwiland is no better here. Can't see the US prices yet.

Sorry, my fault, my standard of living slightly improved between those two releases, so GW had to charge more. It also means they'll have to rebox the bloodthirster so they can raise its price.

Can Japan join the club? Bloodthirster 14000 yen, Lord of change 16100 yen (£112)

To all australians: you're supposed to be a penal colony. Quite winning and keep mining in order to pay your debts to the glorious crown and for the sake of the metropoli, ya criminilas*



*Just in case: it's a joke.

Chikout wrote:
Can Japan join the club? Bloodthirster 14000 yen, Lord of change 16100 yen (£112)

*something something* minimum wage *something something* exchange rates.

But the Twitch channel Chikout! The Twitch Channel! Like Tzeentch, GW has changes sooooooooooooo much!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Can Japan join the club? Bloodthirster 14000 yen, Lord of change 16100 yen (£112)

*something something* minimum wage *something something* exchange rates.

But the Twitch channel Chikout! The Twitch Channel! Like Tzeentch, GW has changes sooooooooooooo much!

Hey, look at the bright side, at least you have changed your lines and dropped the tms. That for me is a great change.

Lord Kragan wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Can Japan join the club? Bloodthirster 14000 yen, Lord of change 16100 yen (£112)

*something something* minimum wage *something something* exchange rates.

But the Twitch channel Chikout! The Twitch Channel! Like Tzeentch, GW has changes sooooooooooooo much!

Hey, look at the bright side, at least you have changed your lines and dropped the tms. That for me is a great change.

Grayt™ Chaynge™


... sorry I couldn't resist

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

Lord Kragan wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Can Japan join the club? Bloodthirster 14000 yen, Lord of change 16100 yen (£112)

*something something* minimum wage *something something* exchange rates.

But the Twitch channel Chikout! The Twitch Channel! Like Tzeentch, GW has changes sooooooooooooo much!

Hey, look at the bright side, at least you have changed your lines and dropped the tms. That for me is a great change.

Grayt™ Chaynge™


... sorry I couldn't resist

In all honesty I think I should better stop since we are starting to derail this. Nevertheless, I see clearly why they got the birds instead of regular humans: stormcasts also have a bird motive.

They are magpies. Expect them to appear with massive mechs they stole from the ironweld and name storm-wrath lightning-reavers of tempest-might.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Can Japan join the club? Bloodthirster 14000 yen, Lord of change 16100 yen (£112)

*something something* minimum wage *something something* exchange rates.

But the Twitch channel Chikout! The Twitch Channel! Like Tzeentch, GW has changes sooooooooooooo much!

I actually quite like the twitch channel and I do think GW is getting better, but I will be right there to call them out on their b***s*** when they take a step back.
One positive thing. The disciples of Tzeentch battletome physical version and Ebook is the the same price in the uk, but in Japan, Australia, and New Zealand, the Ebook is 2/3 of the price of the physical version.

Connect with someone in the UK, and have them pick you one up?

Should save money wherever you are, as despite postage preventing a legitimate bargain, it should still be cheaper than buying at home?

For instance, when I'm at work, Darksphere is close enough for me to nip up to after work, provided I don't need to be home in a hurry. Lord of Change in-store? £56.

Postage to Japan? According to Royal Mail's price finder, and assuming it's no more than 500g once packaged up....

Don't attach non wargaming images to Dakka.
Reds8n


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If I had it delivered to home (so all I'd need do is re-address the package), then the Lord of Change would be £52.50 plus £3.80 postage for a 48 hour service.

Provided you've got time to spare, that's quite a saving you could make.


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Ah, piccy deleted (sorry Reds8n!)

Postage to Japan could be as little as £14.85 if you don't mind a wait.

So essentially you can buy a model here from an independent retailer, pack it up and ship to Japan.
They still get it cheaper than we pay in the UK from GW lol.


But all in all I still think the bird riders are a mix of a kroot gnarloc and an ugly old chocobo.
Nice models though.
Just not keen on big bird.

 Jackal wrote:
So essentially you can buy a model here from an independent retailer, pack it up and ship to Japan.
They still get it cheaper than we pay in the UK from GW lol.


But all in all I still think the bird riders are a mix of a kroot gnarloc and an ugly old chocobo.
Nice models though.
Just not keen on big bird.

In theory - there a bit of necessary guesswork on the postage. But yeah, they should be able to make a saving via connections.

Though if my figures are right, it'd actually work out the same price (Darksphere store price plus £14.85 postage).

A member of Warhammer Forum site has posted information on new Stormcasts model featured in February WD.
It was posted by Giaja, and is written in French,
(See http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?/topic/247839-battletome-stormcast-eternals-v2/&page=1)

Below, I posted the info in English. However since I used the translator, some expressions might be awkward.
There are also french terms which seem to be referring to "inches", such as "ps".
Also, EFF seems to be a French term for Lightning Strike.
This is pure conjecture however.

"Hop, I have the WD under the eyes, then some info:
- It is indeed the Auxiliary Room opened by Sigmar to counter the threat of Tzeentch. This is sneakier than brute force Khorne, he uses these rangers, "known for their cunning and their sense of initiative." These are generally trackers, capable hunters to flush out the followers of Tzeentch where they are hiding.
- In addition to the Vanguard-Hunters walk, there are the vanguard-Palladors mounted Gryph-chargers that can be equipped ax or long spears like javelins, and vanguard-raptors (rafters that can either be long crossbow we've seen, called Longstrike, a huge crossbow repeatedly called Hurricane apparently able to swing 27 shots in a phase three figs)
- The ability of cdt of Aquilor Lord allows him to redeploy a vanguard unit (any I guess) on a table edge.
- The aeterwings are new birds (various star-eagle that accompanies the knight-venator) and are apparently able to "detect hostile tricks and magic." They will be sold by 6, but hard to really know their role in the battle report.
- The blue orb that holds a vanguard-hunters and the Lord aquilor is an astral compass that allows the fluff to the auxiliary track down their prey and game to the unit which has an s' install on the table edge of his choice.
- The Vanguard-palladors also have a reliability called "riding the ethereal winds" that allows them to move 36ps! To see what the constraints are, it can be used once per game.

- The SE have the trait of battle "son of the storm" that keeps some or all of his units in reserve and make the EFF on the 3+ anywhere in 9PS enemy. (This is still a bit ridicules summoning spells ... I think the players will not appreciate Death)
- BT 5 pages Artefacts power, new prayers, etc ..."

Hey look, it's the "it's more expensive in Aus and NZ!!!" Posts, so refreshing, haven't seen them for a while!

I think LoC is one of the 2-3 best massive models released GW released for a while, a definite step up from a sigmarine dragon or Bloodthirster... Not a jumping pose, yet pretty dinamic. The price is a little steep for me, if it was 10 pounds cheaper might have been a great "put on a shelf" mini for me.

I can't decide which changeling I prefer.. I liked, that the old one didn't resemble a human as much, but the bit connecting to the base looked kind of bland, making look very grounded, thus not as powerful and small (even more, than he already is).

The release would seem even more complete to me, if it had a troll sized tzeench beastie.. but I guess tzeench got new gryph cavalry, that has a sigmarines on top of it for some reason
Those mounts will make great proxies for bloodcrushers/varan Knights/any suitable sized fast chaos thing

Although what makes me more excited, is that we are left only with Slaanesh for a Make over! I only fear, that they will PG it to the ground and only leave "pink and purple" as it's thing.

What about poor nurgle?
They still have the lump of metal for a greater daemon and the beasts are just plain ugly, not to mention single pose sculpt.

I'm still using a FW GuO and descendants of decay for beasts.

 Jackal wrote:
What about poor nurgle?
They still have the lump of metal for a greater daemon and the beasts are just plain ugly, not to mention single pose sculpt.

I'm still using a FW GuO and descendants of decay for beasts.

They got blightkings, glottkin and something else, that I can't remember not thaaaat long ago
But I'd be up for nurgle as well! That's why I will probably buy a new warhammer quest..

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
They got blightkings, glottkin and something else..

The three Maggoth riders.

OK great, none of those are nurgle daemons though.
They haven't had the same updates and khorne or tzeentch.

Nurgle daemons are still the same old clunky models.


Both slaanesh and nurgle need the new daemon treatment.




Although, beating the FW GuO will take serious work.

Eh, Glottkin is basically GUO.

 Crimson wrote:
Eh, Glottkin is basically GUO.

IIRC there were rumors that the youngest sibling (read: hideous monstruosity they ride) was indeed intended as such.

 Jackal wrote:
What about poor nurgle?
They still have the lump of metal for a greater daemon and the beasts are just plain ugly, not to mention single pose sculpt.

I'm still using a FW GuO and descendants of decay for beasts.

Poor Nurgle? Did you miss that Nurgle dominated one of the End Times books, or that there are rules in the new Blood Bowl for a Nurgle but not even a generic Chaos team? Over the years, Nurgle has received way more love than Tzeentch, so this is just the Changer of Ways playing catch up.

Now, if you wanna make the 'poor Slaanesh' case, go ahead, but at least that has an in-story explanation.

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 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 Jackal wrote:
What about poor nurgle?
They still have the lump of metal for a greater daemon and the beasts are just plain ugly, not to mention single pose sculpt.

I'm still using a FW GuO and descendants of decay for beasts.

Poor Nurgle? Did you miss that Nurgle dominated one of the End Times books, or that there are rules in the new Blood Bowl for a Nurgle but not even a generic Chaos team? Over the years, Nurgle has received way more love than Tzeentch, so this is just the Changer of Ways playing catch up.

Now, if you wanna make the 'poor Slaanesh' case, go ahead, but at least that has an in-story explanation.

And it will have a glorious resurgence! Mark my words, I'm so sure of it, I'd bet one of Shinros' arms!

Duplicate.

Thread issue?

 Jackal wrote:
Duplicate.

Thread issue?

Highly likely, after all this has gone up for 171 pages, and the longer a thread goes the more issues there are when processing messages. I do remember a 1000-long thread that had "ghost" posts. Whenever you changed pages, the first comment couldn't be seen unless people made a secon one.

Still, gonna say that the beasties will have 4 wounds and a 3+ save, most likely moving 10-12 inches.

Lord Kragan wrote:If you ask my opinion two start collecting would work wonders (they just happen to be 1500-ish points, not bad at al. Add in a unit of kayric accolites or maybe a unit you may need to complete a batallion and you have a fairly decent army of daemons/disciples (perfectly usable for 40k too, I'd say).

Thank you, I will consider this and see how much funds I have to see if it's feasible or not. Greatly appreciated.

Sagittarii Orientalis wrote:
vanguard-raptors (rafters that can either be long crossbow we've seen, called Longstrike, a huge crossbow repeatedly called Hurricane apparently able to swing 27 shots in a phase three figs).

So if I'm reading this right the new larger crossbow equipped SC are not a new option for Judicators. They are a new 3 man unit with two ranged options?

Kragan - I think in keeping with nurgle they will be fairly slow.
Currently they work well, but the model is just stupid.
£18 for a lump of miscast resin that looks that bad the micasting adds to its quality.

My recommendation to anyone is buy the descendants of decay set for £18 for 3 on eBay.





But nurgle daemons haven't had a proper release atall.
Nurgle in general has, but not the daemons.

Both khorne and tzeentch got a huge boost to all factions of theirs for each God.

Nurgle daemons got what, a small plastic update ages ago.
They need an overhaul like the other 2.




Slaanesh is in a worse state.
Their range looks terrible (IMO)
The friends are now 1 sculpt and stupidly priced.
The keeper just looks fugly, plain and simple.
the daemonettes compared to the diaz ones, well, they just don't compare.





My only saving grace for slaanesh was the limited time diaz sculpts.
Got enough now to last me a lifetime haha.

 Jackal wrote:


My only saving grace for slaanesh was the limited time diaz sculpts.
Got enough now to last me a lifetime haha.

I envy you. I only have 20 :( And no diazanettes on seekers too! D: (everyone cares, I know)

Judging by the amount of kits and quality of this (Tzeench) release the next daemon one should be Ace.

Did you guys notice some improvement in the painting department as well? Most AoS stuff lookes like it had a very simple, straight forward paintjob. (making the miniatures even look worse in some cases)

The gryph mount of the Stormcast general seems like a big step up.

I made the most of it lol.
Had a nice bonus come in from work so ended up with 250 nettes and 100 seekers.
Will never need them all but means I can convert without worry.


And I agree in terms of painting.
The quality has gone up a lot recently.
I think it's more in terms of a smart use of colour palette than anything.
But it's still a lot higher quality than it used to be.

I once mentioned the contents for a SC! DoT kit, and I'm glad my guessings where correct.

Now, I'm wondering if there will be a SC! Tzeentch Arcanites; 10 Acolytes, 5 Tzaangos and 3 Disc Tzaangors already worths £50, then they could add a Tzaangor Shaman, but if that's the case, the SC! would be too, TOO damn good, since it seems you want some few Shamans to buff your Tzaangors anyway, so... an Ogroid Thaumaturge? anyway.

I like the Stormcasts, I liked the Lord-Achilor quite a lot, but I didn't liked this mount quite a lot, it needs far more feathers Imo, and those horns? lol nope, but I can see they have hooves instead paws on the back limbs. And the paint job here does NOT help, it looks far more like a plucked chick/cub griffon than an adult individual.

Is this a big demyhippogryph, or should I name it "gryraffe"?

But those gryph-chargers look sweet, and the ballista marksmen too, that raptor bird is lovely and their ballistas are using a support pole, which adds a cool and a thin realism layer, although... yeah, the poles could've been even better, but still the weapons themselves look awesome.

Still, I'd like something for Death or Destruction, but if they are going to update the original battletomes, that's also good, it would be more problematic if they keep on releasing new battletomes while letting the pre-Sylvaneth ones getting older and older.

Next battletome could be "Khornate Warriors", including daemons, Khorne Bloodbounds and Slaves to Darkness units.

P.S.:

OgreChubbs wrote:

Spoiler:

That's not even freakin funny I got like a mad phobia of birds...... We never had a good....... Relationship.

Attacked by a few gini hens a crow and a pidgin. Also there was this freaking quail nest outside my house a couple years ago.... My god those fees can run...... And bite they don't peck like a punch they stab and bite. Also there is like 20 eagles flying around in the summer who are not afraid to kill love stock. Devil creatures from the sky I tells ya

Birds also ALWAYS go for your face and they flap like demons from hell its self. But these birds lack a certain raptor look and more of a cluck cluck look.

The worse thing I ever seen in my life was a emu...... omg..... If I ever go to hell he will be there waiting for me.

*Clears his throat*: