Snipers in Dallas, TX protest

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**CptJake**

djones520 wrote:
Also reported he was an Army Reservist, for those postulating on if he had military training.

Saw one claim he was in 6 years and did one tour to Afghanistan, have not seen that confirmed and clearly the pictures were taken before a tour (as I think Jihadin mentioned).

**Jihadin**

djones520 wrote:
Also reported he was an Army Reservist, for those postulating on if he had military training.

So he had an idea how to go about it but not the full knowledge to maximize the damage. Still though its another hit to the US Military. Someone on here going to go with "PTSD Vet gone nuts" line

**redleger**

army reservists are the soft skills of the military, there are no combat arms units in the reserves, but that doesn't mean he hasnt had the normal deployment training. Hell I knew a medic that was a better shot than me, and Im pretty darn good.

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Jihadin wrote:
djones520 wrote:
Also reported he was an Army Reservist, for those postulating on if he had military training.

So he had an idea how to go about it but not the full knowledge to maximize the damage. Still though its another hit to the US Military. Someone on here going to go with "PTSD Vet gone nuts" line

Oh, I hope that is not where this goes. PTSD as reported by mainstream media is such a horrible sham. It gives us all a bad name.

**CptJake**

Another cop shot:

http://www.ksdk.com/news/crime/officer-shot-in-ballwin/267805180

Ballwin, MO.

Know a cop in Atlanta says a cop got shot at (but not hit) during a traffic stop this morning too.

**Jihadin**

redleger wrote:
army reservists are the soft skills of the military, there are no combat arms units in the reserves, but that doesn't mean he hasnt had the normal deployment training. Hell I knew a medic that was a better shot than me, and Im pretty darn good.

Trigger squeeze and breathing. Trigger squeeze and breathing. Though Johnson has a scope rifle I heard mention.

**NuggzTheNinja**

Watching him move in the one video suggests combat experience - upon being flanked, he suppresses the cop, moves toward contact and bunkers him around the pillar. I'd be very surprised to hear that this guy spent his entire service picking up cigarette butts.

**redleger**

CptJake wrote:
Another cop shot:

http://www.ksdk.com/news/crime/officer-shot-in-ballwin/267805180

Ballwin, MO.

Know a cop in Atlanta says a cop got shot at (but not hit) during a traffic stop this morning too.

Hope they don't link these, then we start heading back to previous discussion on insurgency.

**SickSix**

I would like to see the ratio of number of black interactions with LE to number of killed blacks by LE.

I bet it is a minuscule number. Not what is portrayed by SJW and the national media.

**djones520**

redleger wrote:
CptJake wrote:
Another cop shot:

http://www.ksdk.com/news/crime/officer-shot-in-ballwin/267805180

Ballwin, MO.

Know a cop in Atlanta says a cop got shot at (but not hit) during a traffic stop this morning too.

Hope they don't link these, then we start heading back to previous discussion on insurgency.

After the last shooting, I recall a couple separate "retaliations" occurring as well.

**CptJake**

redleger wrote:
CptJake wrote:
Another cop shot:

http://www.ksdk.com/news/crime/officer-shot-in-ballwin/267805180

Ballwin, MO.

Know a cop in Atlanta says a cop got shot at (but not hit) during a traffic stop this morning too.

Hope they don't link these, then we start heading back to previous discussion on insurgency.

I doubt a real link, suspect 'copy cat' syndrome. Could be COMPLETELY unrelated though. Again, we'll see what the investigations turn up.

**Asterios**

redleger wrote:
army reservists are the soft skills of the military, there are no combat arms units in the reserves, but that doesn't mean he hasnt had the normal deployment training. Hell I knew a medic that was a better shot than me, and Im pretty darn good.

Reservists are some of the first ones called up for active duty in many circumstances starting with the Korean War.

CptJake wrote:

I doubt a real link, suspect 'copy cat' syndrome. Could be COMPLETELY unrelated though. Again, we'll see what the investigations turn up.

My major concern is if some other radicals see this and think, hey we can do that or better.

**djones520**

Asterios wrote:
redleger wrote:
army reservists are the soft skills of the military, there are no combat arms units in the reserves, but that doesn't mean he hasnt had the normal deployment training. Hell I knew a medic that was a better shot than me, and Im pretty darn good.

Reservists are some of the first ones called up for active duty in many circumstances starting with the Korean War.

CptJake wrote:

I doubt a real link, suspect 'copy cat' syndrome. Could be COMPLETELY unrelated though. Again, we'll see what the investigations turn up.

My major concern is if some other radicals see this and think, hey we can do that or better.

That's nice. They still don't fill a combat role. That being said, every Soldier receives combat training. Your typical reservist won't hold a candle to an Infantry man from 3/101, but they are still taught how to move, shoot, and communicate.

**whembly**

MrDwhitey wrote:
Apparently he was upset with BLM also, CptJake.

Speculation is that he may have felt it didn't go far enough.

That was a cryptic: Was he upset with the police violence that BLM is protesting or was he upset with the group itself? Or, something else altogether...

**CptJake**

djones520 wrote:
That being said, every Soldier receives combat training. Your typical reservist won't hold a candle to an Infantry man from 3/101, but they are still taught how to move, shoot, and communicate.

Plenty of ways to augment Army training too. Honestly even games like 'Call of Duty' or playing paintball would have benefits. Both of those have many similarities to things the Army uses for training.

And honestly, you don't need too much training to do what this guy (or guys) did. Being aggressive and well armed goes a long way against city cops.

**Jihadin**

Everyone learns that in Basic. Buddy Rush. Shoot, Move. Taking the objective. Its "Basic"
One goes 11B route one gets more indepth training on Movement and Contact.
Jake mention no Infantry Cord. So if he gone out the "Wire" it would have been convoy's

**SickSix**

Reserves do have MPs and Combat Engineers. They have more than enough training to do something like this. But yes most are purely support roles.

Also the NG is mostly combat arms and the media often refers to both Reserves and NG as 'reservists'.

**Jihadin**

According to a senior U.S. defense official, Johnson enlisted in the U.S. Army reserves in 2009 and rose to the rank of private first class. He had one deployment to Afghanistan from November, 2013 to July of 2014. Upon returning, he remained an inactive reserve until May, 2015, when he was honorably discharged.

"Raise eyebrow"

**djones520**

Jihadin wrote:
According to a senior U.S. defense official, Johnson enlisted in the U.S. Army reserves in 2009 and rose to the rank of private first class. He had one deployment to Afghanistan from November, 2013 to July of 2014. Upon returning, he remained an inactive reserve until May, 2015, when he was honorably discharged.

"Raise eyebrow"

About what? Some units promotion is much slower then others, especially in the Reserves.

**d-usa**

Some info on the bomb robot:

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/dallas-police-department-used-robotic-000000579.html

**Jihadin**

djones520 wrote:
Jihadin wrote:
According to a senior U.S. defense official, Johnson enlisted in the U.S. Army reserves in 2009 and rose to the rank of private first class. He had one deployment to Afghanistan from November, 2013 to July of 2014. Upon returning, he remained an inactive reserve until May, 2015, when he was honorably discharged.

"Raise eyebrow"

About what? Some units promotion is much slower then others, especially in the Reserves.

Sheesh...your Air Force
Its Auto Promote

to PFC/E3
TIS is 12 months
TIG is 4 months

to SPC/E4
TIS is 24 months
TIG is 4 months

Also applies to the Reserve and Guard. Active and Reserve is DFAS. Not sure who pays Guards (I believe DFAS to)

If the Commander does not promote him to SPC/E4 then he/she has to state every month the valid reason he is not to be promoted. Think though its his NCOIC with documents from the Commander.

so his promotion to E4 was delayed by at least four years? Not buying it.

**redleger**

Article 15, can still get out honorably.

**AllSeeingSkink**

redleger wrote:
Smacks wrote:
Asterios wrote:
then tell me how would you make society better? you never answered that question? man is warlike by nature, we are not peaceful people and will fight one way or the other. so how do you stop our own nature?
Probably beyond the scope of this topic, but things like reducing poverty, reducing the rich/poor divide, increasing social mobility, investing in infrastructure and public services, policing, public health, mental health etc.. etc... And of course, not encouraging, glamorising, and endorsing violence.

all of those are fine aspirations, you will hear no argument from most that those are all things that need to happen. You are skirting away from the main question asked though. Since you seem to continue to want to go in this direction, I will ask the direct question, please give a direct answer. How do you recommend people protect themselves from those with no regard for the law, societal customs, regulations, and are ok with doing violence on soft and easy targets? Once again righteousness will not keep those people safe from the people who intend harm. Police can not keep you safe in your house in the middle of the night or even in the middle of the day. What is your solve all solution to protecting ones family. I know that you are not American and deal with different situations, and probably don't have to worry about the sex offender living down the road, but here it is a reality.

So whats the answer?

This is just my opinion and I'm not going to pretend I'm well researched on the matter (granted I don't think most people who state their opinions are much more qualified

).

Working harder to get people out of poverty, good education, encouraging them that even if their parents made nothing of their lives the kids still can, support for people with mental health issues and encouraging people to talk about mental health issues (of course we can go off on a whole tangent about how the mental health system is crap as well).

Doing those things will reduce your chances of getting hurt by someone intending to do harm more than owning a gun will because you reduce the number of people intending to do harm.

The US has an extremely high homicide rate. I think it's the highest of any developed country? It's 4 times higher than Australia, UK, NZ, Germany, twice as high as Canada.

You can arm yourself to protect yourself and maybe give yourself a 50% chance of killing the person who's trying to kill you, or maybe you could try and improve society so you have 50% less people trying to kill you

**CptJake**

Jihadin wrote:

If the Commander does not promote him to SPC/E4 then he/she has to state every month the valid reason he is not to be promoted. Think though its his NCOIC with documents from the Commander.

so his promotion to E4 was delayed by at least four years? Not buying it.

I think my little brother made E4 twice.

He's a cop now in a big city in TX. Says they're all 'heads on swivels' today.

**redleger**

Once again skirting the question. I agree on all points, and future development and everything you stated is correct. How do you stop immediate threats, not future threats?

**Easy E**

Here is what is known about the shooter....

Multiple news outlets have reported that a shooter in the attack that killed five police officers during a protest in downtown Dallas on Thursday has been identified by law enforcement sources as Micah Xavier Johnson. That shooter was killed in a standoff with police when negotiations failed and a robot-placed explosive device was detonated near him. At least seven other officers and two civilians were injured in the attack.

Here is what we know about Johnson so far:

According a law enforcement source to the Los Angeles Times, he is a 25-year-old Dallas resident.

The Times also reported that Johnson had no known criminal record or ties to terror.

Police Chief David Brown said that during the standoff in which he was killed, the “[t]he suspect stated he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers.” He also said the police would find planted explosive devices, and he “expressed anger about Black Lives Matter” during the standoff, though it was unclear what was meant by that last statement.

The Times reported that Johnson has relatives in Mesquite, Texas, and that “[a]uthorities believe Johnson belonged to an informal gun club and took copious amounts of target practice, according to a law enforcement official.”

CNN and the Daily Beast reported that Johnson was a military veteran. The Daily Beast also reported that he attended a gym that offered martial arts and weapons classes:

A U.S. defense official told The Daily Beast that Johnson served as a corporal in the Army Reserve as part of the 284th Engineering Company out of Santa Fe, New Mexico. He previously deployed to Afghanistan.

Johnson formerly attended the “self-defense and personal protection” gym Academy of Combat Warrior Arts in Richardson and Fort Worth, Texas, gym owner and CEO Justin Everman told The Daily Beast. The gym’s Twitter account says it provides “reality based training for today’s Urban environment.”

Along with more traditional martial arts classes, the gym also teaches seminars in “Urban Everyday Carry and Improvised Weapons” and “Weapons Defense.” Everman said many of the gym’s members are police officers and stressed that “we have completely no affiliation with him whatsoever.”
This post is being updated with additional details as more information becomes available.

**Jihadin**

redleger wrote:
Article 15, can still get out honorably.

Negative. If he was discharge under UCMJ action then it was not under Honorable Conditions. That's a Court Martial. He can be discharge with "Under Honorable Conditions" but lets not go there. Seems he might have done two enlistments. He had some bad years of not showing up for recommended amount of Drills per year. Total guess there. Though the more I think on it the more it seems to be that.

Edit

Corporal is a lateral promotion of a SPC.

**jreilly89**

Easy E wrote:
Here is what is known about the shooter....

Multiple news outlets have reported that a shooter in the attack that killed five police officers during a protest in downtown Dallas on Thursday has been identified by law enforcement sources as Micah Xavier Johnson. That shooter was killed in a standoff with police when negotiations failed and a robot-placed explosive device was detonated near him. At least seven other officers and two civilians were injured in the attack.

Here is what we know about Johnson so far:

According a law enforcement source to the Los Angeles Times, he is a 25-year-old Dallas resident.

The Times also reported that Johnson had no known criminal record or ties to terror.

Police Chief David Brown said that during the standoff in which he was killed, the “[t]he suspect stated he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers.” He also said the police would find planted explosive devices, and he “expressed anger about Black Lives Matter” during the standoff, though it was unclear what was meant by that last statement.

The Times reported that Johnson has relatives in Mesquite, Texas, and that “[a]uthorities believe Johnson belonged to an informal gun club and took copious amounts of target practice, according to a law enforcement official.”

CNN and the Daily Beast reported that Johnson was a military veteran. The Daily Beast also reported that he attended a gym that offered martial arts and weapons classes:

A U.S. defense official told The Daily Beast that Johnson served as a corporal in the Army Reserve as part of the 284th Engineering Company out of Santa Fe, New Mexico. He previously deployed to Afghanistan.

Johnson formerly attended the “self-defense and personal protection” gym Academy of Combat Warrior Arts in Richardson and Fort Worth, Texas, gym owner and CEO Justin Everman told The Daily Beast. The gym’s Twitter account says it provides “reality based training for today’s Urban environment.”

Along with more traditional martial arts classes, the gym also teaches seminars in “Urban Everyday Carry and Improvised Weapons” and “Weapons Defense.” Everman said many of the gym’s members are police officers and stressed that “we have completely no affiliation with him whatsoever.”
This post is being updated with additional details as more information becomes available.

What about the other three in custody? Were they actual snipers? False alarms?

**redleger**

You can get an article 15, do your extra duty and still ETS honorably.

**AllSeeingSkink**

redleger wrote:
Once again skirting the question. I agree on all points, and future development and everything you stated is correct. How do you stop immediate threats, not future threats?

You don't. Well, you can try, you can own a gun and maybe you get lucky and are able to use it to good effect to stop an immediate threat, but I think most people over estimate how much safer their guns make them. Unless you plan to sit on your porch like this all the time...

**CptJake**

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
redleger wrote:
Once again skirting the question. I agree on all points, and future development and everything you stated is correct. How do you stop immediate threats, not future threats?
You don't. Well, you can try, you can own a gun and maybe you get lucky and are able to use it to good effect to stop an immediate threat, but I think most people over estimate how much safer their guns make them. Unless you plan to sit on your porch like this all the time...

Please take this to a new anti-US 2nd amendment topic if you want. Lets not let this one get locked over turing into a 'You 'Mericans are doing it wrong' 'No We're NOT' debate.