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Frazzled wrote: I state commmunist, I should be more accurate in saying "hippy utopia nonsense." Mankind does not exist to achieve the highest self actualization. We are the most predatory, greedy species on this planet. Any economic system relying on altruism with our current genetic would implode instantly-it doesn't work outside of family units and even then it doesn't work for "unnormal" families. If we did Star Trek as humans really are WE would be Romulans.
Speak for yourself!
Agreed... I mean, not to bring politics into this, but we did just elect a Ferengi to office
The Walking Dead star Sonequa Martin-Green has reportedly landed the lead role in the new Star Trek TV series.
She plays survivor Sasha Williams in the post-apocalyptic TV series, which is currently on its seventh season.
But the Star Trek role could mean Sasha's time on the show will come to an end.
And when it's a show about flesh-eating zombies, those ends don't tend to be particularly pleasant.
US publication Entertainment Weekly has reported the news, but Sonequa and CBS Television Studios (who are making Star Trek: Discovery) are yet to comment.
If confirmed, she will be the first African-American female to be the main character in a Star Trek TV series.
She is believed to be playing a lieutenant commander on the show, which will make this the first time a Star Trek show hasn't focused on a starship captain.
Sonequa's character in the show hasn't been named but several other key roles have already been cast and announced.
The show will star Malaysia-born actress Michelle Yeoh in the role of Captain Georgiou and Doug Jones as Lieutenant Saru, an alien character.
Star Trek: Discovery will also include the series' first openly gay character, a fellow lieutenant played by Anthony Rapp.
Producer Bryan Fuller has previously promised to maintain Star Trek's long-running history of diverse casting.
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KamikazeCanuck wrote: Well she's be a good main character I suppose. Guess she's gonna be eaten by a zombie pretty soon.
If you're interested in her likely fate, go look up what happens to Holly in the comics. She took Holly's place on the show. I expect her end will be similar.
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Formosa wrote: um....Nichelle Nichols, arguable she isn't a main character on star trek, but Zoe Saldana is in the new trek films, first African American my arse...
When they say "the" main, they mean the person the story revolves around. Like Kirk or Picard. Uhura was never "the" main character.
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Bejamin Sisko was only a commander when he took over DS9, so being the first non-captain is incorrect as well. I'm cautiously optimistic about this new Star Trek project but, C'mon if you're gonna write up reviews or previews for the show it be nice to see some basic research about the franchise done beforehand.
Well I guess Sisko was still the CO of the station. I guess what will be different about STD is the main character won't be the highest ranking officer on the ship.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2017/01/18 10:51:20
Subject: Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
...supposedly this one is different but looked nigh on identical to me.
Seen some claim that this one is more "polished" or what have you...?
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2017/01/18 12:09:14
Subject: Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
Breotan wrote: Unless I'm mistaken, that design was originally set for a proposed movie in the early 70's. I think it was called Planet Of The Titans or something.
Looks like the "Star Trek Phase II" design for the Enterprise. From what I've seen of the concept art, the ship looks really, really similar. For those who are unfamiliar, ST Phase 2 was intended to be a sequel TV series picking up a decade or so after TOS ended. The plans for a series were dropped after some of the interior sets were built (specifically the Engineering set and various corridors), as production switched to Star Trek: The Motion Picture. The constructed interior sets were then used in that film for Enterprise interiors.
It looks like this time, the show is using the unused designs for the exterior of the ship, rather than come up with something new. Unfortunately, the design is so radically different from what Star Trek established as its design aesthetic, that (in my opinion) it doesn't look like it really belongs in the ST universe. The ship looks like a classic-era Klingon bird of prey with a saucer section stuck on the front, which would work fine if the show was set just after TOS in a parallel universe where the Federation and the Klingons merged into one government. From what I've heard about the setting, this does not seem to be the case.
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2017/01/18 18:43:07
Subject: Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
What it needs is a redesign, cause its still hideous XD
Although curious note, someone datamining the Star Trek Online Test Server files found reference to a new version of the NX-1 in the game files (the ship from Enterprise), as well as a reference to a "Experimental Dreadnought Cruiser." I've been racking my brain trying to figure out what the later could be, and it just occurred to me that STO might be launching a playable version of Discovery to coincide with the series' launch later this year.
Which means I'll have to look at that ugly monstrosity in game XD
I thought the ship in Star Trek NOT KHAN was an "experimental dreadnought class."
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2017/01/18 22:28:36
Subject: Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
What it needs is a redesign, cause its still hideous XD
Although curious note, someone datamining the Star Trek Online Test Server files found reference to a new version of the NX-1 in the game files (the ship from Enterprise), as well as a reference to a "Experimental Dreadnought Cruiser." I've been racking my brain trying to figure out what the later could be, and it just occurred to me that STO might be launching a playable version of Discovery to coincide with the series' launch later this year.
Which means I'll have to look at that ugly monstrosity in game XD
TBF, in STO there are a number of ship designs and designations not in canon sources. I've done some looking around, and according to what I've seen on the Dreadnought class (three nacelles, dorsal cannon) is only mentioned in novels, and basically unseen on screen.
I say that to say that this "experimental dreadnought cruiser" could potentially be something completely different. We've already got the time bandit storyline with 23c ships available in game.... Something tells me we won't really get starfleet player ships from discovery... and if we do, this design as is is so ugly that I doubt we'll see many in game, unless the stats are outrageously good.
2017/01/18 23:03:09
Subject: Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
TBF, in STO there are a number of ship designs and designations not in canon sources. I've done some looking around, and according to what I've seen on the Dreadnought class (three nacelles, dorsal cannon) is only mentioned in novels, and basically unseen on screen.
The Galaxy-X you mean? It appeared on screen in All Good Things. There are a lot of non-canon ships in game of course, but most cannon ships have found their way in (even the JJprise has managed to get in). I'm not saying it is, merely that it is possible. The next lockbox is supposed t have a different dreadnought for each player faction with a 23rd Century theme, and that same lockbox assuming the datamine is accurate will coincide with the release of the NX-1 T6 variant. Discovery is supposed to be set between TOS and Enterprise, making the Discovery a possible candidate for the Federation variant.
Console - Hull Ionization Module
Starship Trait - SIF Shunt
While this trait is slotted, activating any hull healing ability on yourself, while at full hull strength, will provide a boost to all power levels for a short time. This effect stacks up to 3 times.
FED 23c Shuttles - Launches three Elite Class F Shuttles. Class F Shuttles have Fore and Aft Phaser Beam Arrays as well as Fore Photon Torpedo Launchers. In addition, they will use the Emergency Power to Shields III ability and Beam: Overload II.
Warning; Cryptic does not like people looking at the game files on their computers and would "kindly" suggest that no one go digging through them. With that said; Source
Usually its the starship trait that is good on lockbox ships, and for sure the above trait is insanely good. It's better than Supremacy, which is the most often used trait for maintaining power levels. The science variants of the flag ships are pretty much perfect for console/boff layouts for the current meta.
Looks like the "Star Trek Phase II" design for the Enterprise. From what I've seen of the concept art, the ship looks really, really similar. For those who are unfamiliar, ST Phase 2 was intended to be a sequel TV series picking up a decade or so after TOS ended. The plans for a series were dropped after some of the interior sets were built (specifically the Engineering set and various corridors), as production switched to Star Trek: The Motion Picture. The constructed interior sets were then used in that film for Enterprise interiors.
Yeah, it's very clearly influenced by the Phase II design... but that design is butt ugly. As others have said, it looks more like a Klingon vessel than Federation tech.
And even ignoring the design, that CGI is woeful for a modern TV show. Up against Babylon 5 it would have been passable... but for a show coming out now, it doesn't fill me with hope for anything resembling production values.
2017/01/19 00:19:31
Subject: Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
Babylon 5 had the budget of a sitcom, and not a popular one. Discovery is the flagship series for a brand new network in an age of plentiful CGI. This is troubling.
STAR TREK DISCOVERY Delayed Again!! Spock’s Dad Recast Again!!
First the bad:
“Star Trek Discovery,” once slated to premiere this month before moving to May, won’t be premiering in May either. CBS All Access is now saying in a statement it doesn’t know when it will premiere.
Now the good:
James Frain -- who played recently played both Mayor Galavan and Azrael on “Gotham” and recurred on numerous other series, among them “24,” “Empire,” “Invastion,” “The Tudors,” “The Cape,” “The White Queen, “Grimm,” “Orphan Black,” “The Tunnel,” “Intruders,” ““True Blood,” “Agent Carter” and “True Detective” -- will play Sarek, father of Spock, on “Star Trek Discovery.”
Actor Mark Lenard first played the character of Sarek on the 1967 “Star Trek” episode “Journey to Babel,” and reprised the role on the 1973 animated episode “Yesteryear,” two episodes of “Star Trek: The Next Generation,” and the third, fourth and sixth Star Trek movies.
Younger versions of Sarek were played by Jonathan Simpson in 1989’s “Star Trek V” and by Ben Cross in 2009’s “Star Trek.”
Bryan Fuller, co-creator and former showrunner of “Star Trek Discovery,” hinted that he wanted Winona Ryder, who played Spock’s mother in the 2009 movie, to reprise the role in the upcoming series.
While I’m been mighty impressed with Frain’s work over the years I’d be lying if I said it’s not a disappointment that they’re not bringing back Cross.
“Star Trek Discovery,” which will stream on CBS All Access (likely later this year), is set 10 years before the Kirk-Spock series broadcast in the 1960s. It is not excpected to focus on Kirk, Spock or any other familiar character, though familiar characters will pop up from time to time.
(I wonder if Spock is already serving aboard the Enterprise with Captain Pike.)
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2017/02/05 12:29:05
Subject: Re:Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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