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 Blacksails wrote:
Oh feth me, that just keeps looking better.

My only hope is that those white-ish panels are litanies of something and not skull panels. Or just grates. That's be great.

The silver insets? they are probably litanies

as its covering the top guns as well. it looks fantastic so far.

i just wana see how long it is. so i can get a better feel for the proportions

 Ghaz wrote:
Haven't seen this posted here yet...

Spoiler:

HNNNNNGGGGG

Whoever designed this thing deserves a medal, it's the first plastic flier GW have produced since the Valkyrie that I find more appealing the more we see of it rather than the opposite, and the Valkyrie was just a straight-up rip of the FW design.

So, lets see, I'll need one to use as the "spawn point" for DW in scenarios, and another to make into a crashed scenery piece to use as an objective for said scenarios, and what the hell I might just get a third and model it in-flight even though the chance of me ever playing a 40K game of sufficient size to include fliers is tiny. EDIT: I have it! #3 will get a different paintjob and be the personal shuttle of one of my Inquisitors.

God damn it's a good thing I flogged those BFG models on ebay recently, or this would hurt the ol' leather money holder thingy.

 Desubot wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:
Oh feth me, that just keeps looking better.

My only hope is that those white-ish panels are litanies of something and not skull panels. Or just grates. That's be great.

The silver insets? they are probably litanies

as its covering the top guns as well. it looks fantastic so far.

i just wana see how long it is. so i can get a better feel for the proportions

The front wing looks almost exactly like the rear wing of a Stormraven, so I would use that for scale.

 Yodhrin wrote:
It's just so odd, you'd expect them to have an organised system with SKUs organised into sensible categories that all sell at the same pricepoint, then just modify prices periodically to account for inflation.

That would mean return to "good" old days when GW did shopwide price increases rather than just hiking up price of new releases.

Would also mean either constant pool of new price categories(at what point has to ask why bother with price categories?) or they wouldn't release cheaper miniatures in a guise of bundles like starter sets. They are deadset on not reducing price of existing SKU's.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Haven't seen this posted here yet...

Spoiler:

HNNNNNGGGGG

Whoever designed this thing deserves a medal, it's the first plastic flier GW have produced since the Valkyrie that I find more appealing the more we see of it rather than the opposite, and the Valkyrie was just a straight-up rip of the FW design.

So, lets see, I'll need one to use as the "spawn point" for DW in scenarios, and another to make into a crashed scenery piece to use as an objective for said scenarios, and what the hell I might just get a third and model it in-flight even though the chance of me ever playing a 40K game of sufficient size to include fliers is tiny. EDIT: I have it! #3 will get a different paintjob and be the personal shuttle of one of my Inquisitors.

God damn it's a good thing I flogged those BFG models on ebay recently, or this would hurt the ol' leather money holder thingy.

It looks like the drop ship from Aliens

 Desubot wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:
Oh feth me, that just keeps looking better.

My only hope is that those white-ish panels are litanies of something and not skull panels. Or just grates. That's be great.

The silver insets? they are probably litanies

as its covering the top guns as well. it looks fantastic so far.

i just wana see how long it is. so i can get a better feel for the proportions

Yeah, those handful of bright panels outlined in gold. I'm at work, so I can't do some awesome MS Paint skillz and paint a red line around what I mean, but I'm seriously hoping you're right and they're similar to the left shoulder pads of the marines.

But if they're skulls, I'll be a little sad.

So we've seen the datashes and we know Death Masque sets are out there in the hands of certain individuals. Why has nobody said anything about what actually happens in the narrative? That's the real exciting part IMO.

I keep hitting refresh hoping to see point values for those Frag Cannons. Nothing has excited me more than the ability to drop so many templates OR Lascannon shots, depending on the need.

sizzlebutt666 wrote:
I keep hitting refresh hoping to see point values for those Frag Cannons. Nothing has excited me more than the ability to drop so many templates OR Lascannon shots, depending on the need.

25pts.

Should be super bottom of OP. Hidden away.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Kijamon wrote:
Not got a lot of info on the packages but it's definitely a razorback with upgrade sprue.

They are limited releases though so maybe it's not a big deal to give the sprue away if it drives up sales on the other stuff?

Thanks for this. So it's a splash release.

I'm surprised they are releasing the Watch-Captain blister(Artemis from the box) this quickly though. Unless they mislabeled the Watch Master with the halberd?

I believe this is the space marine commander/captain from donkeys ago with an upgrade sprue - the multi part kit which we have had for a long time (but the description wasn't very good).

The flyer looks like what you'd get if the dropship from Aliens and the Dark Angels Nephilim Jetfighter had a baby together. I'll have to get one at some point.

Hey all,

Just thought I would throw it up here because I haven't seen it yet but on BOLS it has been confirmed in a picture that in any formation that says watch captain you can indeed use Artemis instead which is just amazing. It also has a bunch of juicy images I hadn't seen before.

Cheers!

I was happy with the last SM flier, but this one is "special"...

The Warhammer TV Facebook page has posted a Deathwatch Veteran Painting Tutorial with Duncan.

tneva82 wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
It's just so odd, you'd expect them to have an organised system with SKUs organised into sensible categories that all sell at the same pricepoint, then just modify prices periodically to account for inflation.

That would mean return to "good" old days when GW did shopwide price increases rather than just hiking up price of new releases.

The issue people had with that was they stopped having any relationship whatsoever with actual inflation, and became "how much can we tack on this year?".

Would also mean either constant pool of new price categories(at what point has to ask why bother with price categories?) or they wouldn't release cheaper miniatures in a guise of bundles like starter sets. They are deadset on not reducing price of existing SKU's.

I don't get your meaning here.


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migooo wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Haven't seen this posted here yet...

Spoiler:

HNNNNNGGGGG

Whoever designed this thing deserves a medal, it's the first plastic flier GW have produced since the Valkyrie that I find more appealing the more we see of it rather than the opposite, and the Valkyrie was just a straight-up rip of the FW design.

So, lets see, I'll need one to use as the "spawn point" for DW in scenarios, and another to make into a crashed scenery piece to use as an objective for said scenarios, and what the hell I might just get a third and model it in-flight even though the chance of me ever playing a 40K game of sufficient size to include fliers is tiny. EDIT: I have it! #3 will get a different paintjob and be the personal shuttle of one of my Inquisitors.

God damn it's a good thing I flogged those BFG models on ebay recently, or this would hurt the ol' leather money holder thingy.

It looks like the drop ship from Aliens

Most of the good GW products have fairly obvious inspirations elsewhere, I'm not fussed - better a thousand ripoff designs than another chibihawk.

 Ghaz wrote:
The Warhammer TV Facebook page has posted a Deathwatch Veteran Painting Tutorial with Duncan.

Is there a YT link somewhere I'm missing? Facebook's video player is utter garbage.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
The Warhammer TV Facebook page has posted a Deathwatch Veteran Painting Tutorial with Duncan.

Is there a YT link somewhere I'm missing? Facebook's video player is utter garbage.

Not yet. It will show up on YouTube in a day or three.

The recent picture of the Corvus Blackstar appears to have a Hurricane Bolter on top of it but it isn't in the rules listed, any ideas what it is?

You can use Artemis in any formation instead of any watch captain.
And you can use the NAMED units instead as well.
The question now remains who has the data sheets for the following units.
Squad crull
Squad galateal
Venerable dreadnaut nihilus

I really hope that a whole Watch Company "Decurion" isn't stuck with only Razorbacks and Corvus as transport. An army that can only footslog, arrive with fliers, or putter in a max of 4 Razorbacks isn't very satisfying. Really need to take advantage of all those Assault Hvy Weapons with close ranges and give them access to Drop Pods!!

sizzlebutt666 wrote:
I really hope that a whole Watch Company "Decurion" isn't stuck with only Razorbacks and Corvus as transport. An army that can only footslog, arrive with fliers, or putter in a max of 4 Razorbacks isn't very satisfying. Really need to take advantage of all those Assault Hvy Weapons with close ranges and give them access to Drop Pods!!

The Veteran unit is confirmed to have Rhinos and Pods as DTs as well as Razorbacks and Corvus - so Infernus drive-by to your heart's content.

Alendrel wrote:

sizzlebutt666 wrote:
I really hope that a whole Watch Company "Decurion" isn't stuck with only Razorbacks and Corvus as transport. An army that can only footslog, arrive with fliers, or putter in a max of 4 Razorbacks isn't very satisfying. Really need to take advantage of all those Assault Hvy Weapons with close ranges and give them access to Drop Pods!!

The Veteran unit is confirmed to have Rhinos and Pods as DTs as well as Razorbacks and Corvus - so Infernus drive-by to your heart's content.

And the Terminator will likely be able to take Landraider variants as DTs if you want that "cool" factor of the squad rumbling across the battlefield in a big-ass tank. Keep at mind that the only vehicle that can transport bikes is the Corvus.

sizzlebutt666 wrote:
I really hope that a whole Watch Company "Decurion" isn't stuck with only Razorbacks and Corvus as transport. An army that can only footslog, arrive with fliers, or putter in a max of 4 Razorbacks isn't very satisfying. Really need to take advantage of all those Assault Hvy Weapons with close ranges and give them access to Drop Pods!!

unless i read it wrong, the entire decurion gets deepstrike... atia and other said the drop pod is a DT anyway though

 Ghaz wrote:
Haven't seen this posted here yet...

That's so dope. This release is just perfectly timed. My birthday is this week, and I'm gonna have to treat myself to one of these. Maybe one of everything. I dunno.

I wonder how integral the =][= badges on the Corvus are to the model? If they are just stuck onto the body and doors instead of moulded in I could see vanilla SM nicking it for them selves come the next codex update.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
I wonder how integral the =][= badges on the Corvus are to the model? If they are just stuck onto the body and doors instead of moulded in I could see vanilla SM nicking it for them selves come the next codex update.

They are almost assuredly molded on. Just speculation, of course, but now that SM have 3 types of flyers, I doubt they'd get access to the Corvus as a 4th.

Anyone else find it odd that SM have the widest variety of flyers? SM = 3, DA = 2, SW = 2, DW = 1. Seems odd that the masters of anti-grav tech, who have been around for more millennia than humans have existed, have half as many.

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 Bi'ios wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Haven't seen this posted here yet...

That's so dope. This release is just perfectly timed. My birthday is this week, and I'm gonna have to treat myself to one of these. Maybe one of everything. I dunno.

I'm in. After seeing that, I am in!

jgfield79 wrote:

sizzlebutt666 wrote:
I really hope that a whole Watch Company "Decurion" isn't stuck with only Razorbacks and Corvus as transport. An army that can only footslog, arrive with fliers, or putter in a max of 4 Razorbacks isn't very satisfying. Really need to take advantage of all those Assault Hvy Weapons with close ranges and give them access to Drop Pods!!

unless i read it wrong, the entire decurion gets deepstrike... atia and other said the drop pod is a DT anyway though

EnTyme wrote:

Alendrel wrote:

sizzlebutt666 wrote:
I really hope that a whole Watch Company "Decurion" isn't stuck with only Razorbacks and Corvus as transport. An army that can only footslog, arrive with fliers, or putter in a max of 4 Razorbacks isn't very satisfying. Really need to take advantage of all those Assault Hvy Weapons with close ranges and give them access to Drop Pods!!

The Veteran unit is confirmed to have Rhinos and Pods as DTs as well as Razorbacks and Corvus - so Infernus drive-by to your heart's content.

And the Terminator will likely be able to take Landraider variants as DTs if you want that "cool" factor of the squad rumbling across the battlefield in a big-ass tank. Keep at mind that the only vehicle that can transport bikes is the Corvus.

As LR's are their only Heavy Support and are an Auxilary Choice in the Black Spear, I doubt they will be DTs as there is no need for them to not compete with other things for slots. The net effect on list building will be positive (as you can choose different units to start in one).

jgfield79 wrote:

sizzlebutt666 wrote:
I really hope that a whole Watch Company "Decurion" isn't stuck with only Razorbacks and Corvus as transport. An army that can only footslog, arrive with fliers, or putter in a max of 4 Razorbacks isn't very satisfying. Really need to take advantage of all those Assault Hvy Weapons with close ranges and give them access to Drop Pods!!

unless i read it wrong, the entire decurion gets deepstrike... atia and other said the drop pod is a DT anyway though

All non-vehicle units do - but drop pods still have half arrive on turn 1 and have Inertial Guidance, so they are still very useful (plus sitting on objectives).

Excellent! Thanks battle brothers!

I'm honestly stoked to build a Watch Company. It's convenient that, bare minimum, the Malleus, Aquilla, and Furor Kill Teams are all composed of 1 Terminator and 1 Veteran Squad. Either way, I'm probably going to want to include 6-12 Frag Cannons in the army since it's by far the best weapon since Grav weapons came out. Assault, Template, and Lascannon shots, all in one gun!


I find it easy to also assemble the more Assault Oriented Dominatus Kill Team out of the Death Masque contents. Hvy Thunder Hammers, Storm Shields, and Xenoblades all likely making quick work of MCs and GCs. Color me stoked.

So I saw that price list a while back and I'm wondering if 'Kill Team Cassius' is the Overkill Kill Team sold separately.

Because if it is, at £40 I'm soooo in.

Yeah. Really hoping that is the Overkill team. Between that news and that flyer I'm in.