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2016/08/10 05:39:18
Subject: [40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics, luchiban's info, NEW pics in OP
Alendrel wrote: A million LOLZ at invoking the 30th Annivesary Marine rules as a case for ANYTHING.
And the Bane is special for being an unlimited use combi. If Artemis's weapon was just an unlimited use flamer, cool, but unlimited use AND Fleshbane? Nah, enjoy That Guying it up.
It's just one flamer on a T4 guy with a 4++.
Just shoot him.
2016/08/10 05:57:31
Subject: Re:[40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics, luchiban's info, NEW pics in OP
The Deathwatch Upgrade Sprue in all of its pixely glory!
It appears to be the following:
10 Shoulder Pauldrons
2 Terminator Shoulder Pauldrons
1 Power Armor Chest piece
2 Power Armor Heads
1 Power Sword
3 Inquisition symbols
Very nice. 10/10 will buy multiples of.
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It appears to be the following:
10 Shoulder Pauldrons
2 Terminator Shoulder Pauldrons
1 Power Armor Chest piece
2 Power Armor Heads
1 Power Sword
3 Inquisition symbols
Very nice. 10/10 will buy multiples of.
Just clear enough to be useful. Thanks for posting.
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BlaxicanX wrote: A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
2016/08/10 06:52:30
Subject: [40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics, luchiban's info, NEW pics in OP
Kijamon wrote: And you possibly get one whole upgrade sprue with the terminator captain as a splash release?
Can see him selling very well!
That would be AWESOME. If it is the Terminator Captain that is in the SM Start Collecting, I would buy him in a hot second to make another Assault Cannon Terminator. I love the model, dislike the loadout.
It appears to be the following:
10 Shoulder Pauldrons
2 Terminator Shoulder Pauldrons
1 Power Armor Chest piece
2 Power Armor Heads
1 Power Sword
3 Inquisition symbols
Very nice. 10/10 will buy multiples of.
Wonder why they didn't include a Bolter or two instead of the symbols?
2016/08/10 07:15:50
Subject: [40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics, luchiban's info, NEW pics in OP
They could have gone further and made the upgrade sprue two of those mini-sprues, one with the DW pads, and another with more Chapter pads for even more Chapters not in the main box. But we got a Power Sword though, 'cause anyone buying a DW box is certainly going to be wanting for those. (/sarcasm)
Kijamon wrote: And you possibly get one whole upgrade sprue with the terminator captain as a splash release?
Can see him selling very well!
That would be AWESOME. If it is the Terminator Captain that is in the SM Start Collecting, I would buy him in a hot second to make another Assault Cannon Terminator. I love the model, dislike the loadout.
That would certainly be worth getting.
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H.B.M.C. wrote: They could have gone further and made the upgrade sprue two of those mini-sprues, one with the DW pads, and another with more Chapter pads for even more Chapters not in the main box. But we got a Power Sword though, 'cause anyone buying a DW box is certainly going to be wanting for those. (/sarcasm)
Yeah, of ALL the things they could have put in there, a stupid power sword is the worst one. If it was a xenophase blade or whatever, sure. Or a Power Maul, because apparently we are FINALLY including those with stuff. But no, it is a stupid power sword. Because no one has piles of those lying around. Certainly not anyone that will have the DW Veterans box and its four(five?) of them.
Breotan wrote: Wonder why they didn't include a Bolter or two instead of the symbols?
I would rather more =][= Symbols and less other stuff. How many of these upgrade sprues would you need to decorate a decent amount of vehicles?
I can only hope that the DW Transport comes with a whole bunch more of them.
Glory is fleeting. Obscurity is forever.
2016/08/10 08:08:43
Subject: [40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics, luchiban's info, NEW pics in OP
Firstly, thank you for offering to do this, the hype is strong with this Codex! I've heard that including a terminator/biker/Vanguard Vets in a kill team applies a particular bonus to that kill team. Are you able to confirm what these bonuses are please?
2016/08/10 08:23:04
Subject: Re:[40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics, luchiban's info, NEW pics in OP
Can we get some clarifications of how the kill team formations work?
E.g. If you run 5 veterans and 5 vanguard, do they have to function as one squad, or can they be split in two?
Kill Team: All of the non-vehicle units in this Formation form a single unit called a Kill Team. This counts as a single unit for all game purposes; it must be deployed as one unit and cannot be broken down into Combat Squads. The Kill Team cannot split up during the battle, even if a model within it has the Independent Character special rule.
Basically all the required units for the specific Kill Team formation join together to make one unit. ie the Aquila Kill Team will be a unit of Veterans (min 5) plus one or more choices of a Librarian, Terminator, Vanguard Veteran or Biker. All the Kill Team Formations are restricted to 10 models max, excluding Dedicated Transports.
2016/08/10 08:23:21
Subject: Re:[40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics, luchiban's info, NEW pics in OP
How does the HB/Flamer work? ie can you only use the flamer once like a traditional combi weapon? Or do you just pick which one you're going to shoot with each shooting phase?
**Edit: Nice of GW to bundle the kill-team from DWO together. And as I suspected, they've bundled the Rhino and Razorback as a multi kit. Which is fine IMO. Wish there was a bigger pic for that Captain though.
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Right, so, a Deathwatch Land Raider is a Land Raider with a Deathwatch sprue. I guess that Land Raider can really make use of 10 DW shoulder pads and a power sword. The Deathwatch Transport, again, needs another power sword... and the DW Captain will soon be the proud owner of 10+ shoulder pads!
Tell us about the fluff. Watch Fortresses? Are there said to be a lot of them? Is there an oath Marines take? Do they talk about their armour, the changing of the shoulder pad and all that? Does it talk about their interaction with the Ordo Xenos, or the Inquisition in general?
What heavy weapons can DW Veteran Squads get? Are there any minis in the Codex we haven't seen yet?
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So it seems the Watch Captain is a repack of the old Space Marine Commander kit. Since it already contains a DW pad I doubt it'll have the upgrade sprue.
Ah well I suppose that means it's available outside of the SW Get Started! box once again.
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2016/08/10 08:40:58
Subject: Re:[40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics, luchiban's info, NEW pics in OP
It appears to be the following:
10 Shoulder Pauldrons
2 Terminator Shoulder Pauldrons
1 Power Armor Chest piece
2 Power Armor Heads
1 Power Sword
3 Inquisition symbols
Very nice. 10/10 will buy multiples of.
Wonder why they didn't include a Bolter or two instead of the symbols?
Vehicles. I had heard the sword was in a xenos style but you can't see the details in that photo.
This sprues and bits are going to be very cheap if they're bundled with everything.
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2016/08/10 08:45:56
Subject: Re:[40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics, luchiban's info, NEW pics in OP
The Deathwatch Land Raider comes with the Deathwatch Upgrade Sprue AND the Land Raider Crusader/Redeemer upgrade sprue. If that thing is the price of a regular Land Raider, that will be an AMAZING deal. If that ends up being the case, I am totally going to get one. The Deathwatch Transport just ended up being a Rhinoback kit, so that isn't anything special. No thanks, if I am getting transports for my guys, it will be in the form of a Drop Pod or the Corvus Blackstar.
I feel like I need to pat myself on the back, the Deathwatch Captain is EXACTLY what I said it was going to be!
casvalremdeikun wrote: I feel like I need to pat myself on the back, the Deathwatch Captain is EXACTLY what I said it was going to be!
Shame it's not a Terminator.
Still, the old Captain kit is one of my fav GW kits, even if it is really showing its age. I mean, it's from a time when stuff on sprues were so spread out that they were almost naked. Hell, there's almost as many bitz on the DW upgrade sprue as there is in the commander kit!
Of course, that's a good ratio of DW pads to models.
And never anyone forget, the Command Squad sprue has 2 DW pads.
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Matt.Kingsley wrote: So it seems the Watch Captain is a repack of the old Space Marine Commander kit. Since it already contains a DW pad I doubt it'll have the upgrade sprue.
It probably doesn't and it seems strange to include the upgrade sprue with the vehicles since they didn't do that with any of the others. I'd have thought they'd just put in a DW decal sheet instead.
2016/08/10 08:54:02
Subject: Re:[40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics, luchiban's info, NEW pics in OP
casvalremdeikun wrote: I feel like I need to pat myself on the back, the Deathwatch Captain is EXACTLY what I said it was going to be!
Shame it's not a Terminator.
Still, the old Captain kit is one of my fav GW kits, even if it is really showing its age. I mean, it's from a time when stuff on sprues were so spread out that they were almost naked. Hell, there's almost as many bitz on the DW upgrade sprue as there is in the commander kit!
Of course, that's a good ratio of DW pads to models.
And never anyone forget, the Command Squad sprue has 2 DW pads.
The Terminator Captain was listed separately from the Watch Captain in that list, so it is still entirely possibly we will get the Strike Force Ultra Captain with a DW Upgrade Sprue at some point. Between the two Command Squads and two Commander Kits I have bought, I almost have enough for an entire Kill Team. Add to that fact I have Jensus Natorian's arm (I converted an extra one of him into a Crimson Fist), I have six total DW shoulder pauldrons to work with!
I hope the Commander has the upgrade sprue included, the DW shoulder pads from the Commander kit and the Command Squad have no scripture on them, only the =I=