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He would probably not rescue him if the chance was there, I doubt he would outright kill him. It would give into too much suspicion. Or he would forward the info to his chapter.

Davor wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Spoiler:

So I kinda want to make a Kill Team just so I can make a Black Shield who is obviously from a traitor legion. Like really obvious. Like big Night Lord bat wings on head obvious. But with the shoulder pad symbol blacked out so in-universe nobody knows...

I got it. Rubric marine Black Shield. What chapter is Brother Amun-ra from? He wouldn't say...

OOO OOO, what is the Dark Angel going to do if he was a Fallen?

Certainly a good reason to have a Deathwatch v. Dark Angels battle.

Wow. I just read all the leaks. I played dark angels in 3rd as I loved playing deathwing with multiple heavies, options, and being an elite competaive outnumbered force. I then played demon hunters/grey knights as they did the same thing after the dark angels were nerfed. The dark angels bounced back, but my deathwing are still nerfed and have no real alpha strike (pure dw is not viable these days).

Deathwatch is like a black marine version of what I loved... super special weapons, multiple heavies, miniscule commando force, high tactics or get tabled easily. I'm sold and all in!

Damn I didn't want to buy another 200 dollar le codex... oh well its worth it! Looks like my dark angels will be wearing black and silver with their one chapter badge displayed proudly!

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

Davor wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Spoiler:

So I kinda want to make a Kill Team just so I can make a Black Shield who is obviously from a traitor legion. Like really obvious. Like big Night Lord bat wings on head obvious. But with the shoulder pad symbol blacked out so in-universe nobody knows...

I got it. Rubric marine Black Shield. What chapter is Brother Amun-ra from? He wouldn't say...

OOO OOO, what is the Dark Angel going to do if he was a Fallen?

Certainly a good reason to have a Deathwatch v. Dark Angels battle.

I recall the death watch rpg mentioning a battle in witch a black shield was kidnapped by the dark angles and then left.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Spoiler:

This really makes me think the Death Watch was based on the Knight Watch from Song of Ice and Fire.

Which is cool.

Is there anything in the book that explains what exactly the DW's mission is versus other marines. OK Marines hate aliens, and DW really, really hate aliens.

Are they just an elite group who are very, very good at killing aliens? Or is there some special threat that the DW alone knows of and can fight?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
This really makes me think the Death Watch was based on the Knight Watch from Song of Ice and Fire.

Despite the fact that 40k is much older, I can see some similiarities

I would compare them to the Navy Seals: Elite warriors sent out to decapitate an enemy force by killing their leaders.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Is there anything in the book that explains what exactly the DW's mission is versus other marines.

The DW operates on inquisitorial order, once an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor has invetistigated a potential threat.

In contrast, Grey Knights are more like terrorist attack response teams, i think. Because most of the demon incursions are quite small and therefore one could say that demons act like terrorists

Well the DW rpg which fleshed all of this out only came out a few years ago. So it's more than possible there is some inspiration drawn from them somewhere along the line.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Spoiler:

So I kinda want to make a Kill Team just so I can make a Black Shield who is obviously from a traitor legion. Like really obvious. Like big Night Lord bat wings on head obvious. But with the shoulder pad symbol blacked out so in-universe nobody knows...

I got it. Rubric marine Black Shield. What chapter is Brother Amun-ra from? He wouldn't say...

I think I'm just going to have an Ork Blackshield.

For funsies.

 Selym wrote:
I think I'm just going to have an Ork Blackshield.

That's an awesome idea!!!

 Selym wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Spoiler:

So I kinda want to make a Kill Team just so I can make a Black Shield who is obviously from a traitor legion. Like really obvious. Like big Night Lord bat wings on head obvious. But with the shoulder pad symbol blacked out so in-universe nobody knows...

I got it. Rubric marine Black Shield. What chapter is Brother Amun-ra from? He wouldn't say...

I think I'm just going to have an Ork Blackshield.

For funsies.

Don' ask me wut Chapta ahm frum!

Pyrosphere wrote:

Despite the fact that 40k is much older, I can see some similiarities

But this part of the Fluff is quite new and don't really match the old DW fluff. So here GoT got it first

Someone found the painting guide for the Corvus Blackstar. It looks cool. I wonder if there is any interior detail. https://grimdarkvoid.blogspot.jp/2016/08/spotted-corvus-blackstar-painting-video.html

Chikout wrote:
Someone found the painting guide for the Corvus Blackstar. It looks cool. I wonder if there is any interior detail. https://grimdarkvoid.blogspot.jp/2016/08/spotted-corvus-blackstar-painting-video.html

Which has now disappeared lol.

Lord Perversor wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Pointed out by Atia on her WoS blog, the Watchmaster's halberd is from the Custodes armoury

Spoiler:

I hope the next HH game will come with at least a full squad of Custodian Guard

Sad panda rumored something about *custodes and sisters of silence* in a possible new HH starter game.

Yes I know but I hope it will be more than just a few monopose models. We dont know yet how the models will be in that next game. A multipart kit like the Deathwatch Veterans would be excellent. Silver Tower and Overkill are nice products, but I hope the HH game in fall 2016 will contain full kits again and kicks off the new SoS and Custodes ranges successfully. Death Masque is a nice combination of previouly released and new models, unlike Stormclaw and Deathstorm which had only two new character models each, and I hope they will continue the trend introducing new kits with big box games (and a large saving at day one), which are then sold individually half a year later. Monopose isnt a bad thing per se but it doesnt provide enough variety if you want to build up an army. With Custodes being a potential 30k and 40k army a full Custodes kit would make a lot of sense saleswise - so do proper MkIII and SOS kits. I wonder what miniatures the Thousand Sons in the game will get. As it is a boardgame with scenarios forces dont have to be even. Maybe GW will put the 1k Sons' Psychic Assassins we got told about at the FW Weekender in the board game? With Ahriman in the box it would make sense storywise.

'This video is private'

This Irishman is annoyed -_-

Pyrosphere wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
This really makes me think the Death Watch was based on the Knight Watch from Song of Ice and Fire.

Despite the fact that 40k is much older, I can see some similiarities

I'm thinking specifically of the whole 'ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies' deal. Of course that's lifted from the real life French Foreign Legion and probably other irregular armies.

And yes the Ork Black Sheild is brilliant, consider that stolen. Maybe do a whole theme, an Eldar, a Tau, a Necron... All with shoulder pads and backpacks.

And someone should definitely do a full on Chaos Marine with spikes and tentacles. Who me? heretic? No, no, never.

Regarding the shotgun + bolter: are you not losing out on an extra attack by removing the CCW? Or is that not a major concern, seeing as we want them to be shooting rather than charging?

 jgfield79 wrote:
Regarding the shotgun + bolter: are you not losing out on an extra attack by removing the CCW? Or is that not a major concern, seeing as we want them to be shooting rather than charging?

No, because you don't get an extra attack in the first place because they don't have two CCWs, just one. So they end up with the same number of attacks anyway. There is literally no downside to the Bolter+Shotgun loadout over the Bolter+CCW or Shotgun+CCW loadouts.

I'm really loving the subtle traitor marine idea but more tempted by a Khorn Berserker, with a DW shoulderpad and painted in DW colours.

Can you take the "sniper" bolter and the shotgun....sounds like the perfect combo

Maybe? Not entirely sure how swapping the CCW for a bolter, then for the stalker bolter works.

 RedFox wrote:
Can you take the "sniper" bolter and the shotgun....sounds like the perfect combo

I don't think so -- because its special issue wargear. I'm pretty sure they FAQ'd the dubious chaining of swaps... i.e. you can't replace wargear and then replace the piece of wargear you just replaced. They way they wrote it though, does seem to make no issue of taking a boltgun, then trading your CCW for a shotgun

 RedFox wrote:
Can you take the "sniper" bolter and the shotgun....sounds like the perfect combo

Yes you can. You first swap your CC weapon to a bolter, then one bolter to stalker and the other to shotgun.

https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture3/1011/thumb_Fb5yEJw.jpg

You're right we can

 Crimson wrote:

 RedFox wrote:
Can you take the "sniper" bolter and the shotgun....sounds like the perfect combo

Yes you can. You first swap your CC weapon to a bolter, then one bolter to stalker and the other to shotgun.

You can't swap gear like that. The rules don't give you permission to exchange a piece of gear, and then exchange that piece of gear for something else.

 Bi'ios wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 RedFox wrote:
Can you take the "sniper" bolter and the shotgun....sounds like the perfect combo

Yes you can. You first swap your CC weapon to a bolter, then one bolter to stalker and the other to shotgun.

You can't swap gear like that. The rules don't give you permission to exchange a piece of gear, and then exchange that piece of gear for something else.

That's how C:SM bikers get their special weapons, and GW didn't FAQ that away. You trade bolt pistol for chainsword, then chainsword for special weapon.

If they wanted DW dudes to have shotgun/bolters is another issue though.

EDIT: Had to flip open my SM codex, and GW even models their bikers with special weapons. Seems legit to me.

Just realised that the frag cannon in the kit doesn't come with the similar big ammo back pack as the one in Overwatch. Mildly annoying.

 kodos wrote:

Pyrosphere wrote:

Despite the fact that 40k is much older, I can see some similiarities

But this part of the Fluff is quite new and don't really match the old DW fluff. So here GoT got it first

Might be taking this a little OT, but I'm fairly sure Blackshields have been around since the DW were created. The Blackshields have existed for quite a while before this codex drop.
I personally already have two Blackshields in my Deathwatch army, Brothers Oberyn and Karrack.

No mention of Deathwatch in Scout Armour, huh. I might either have to repaint my Deathwatch Sniper Scouts into another Chapter, or I use them as count-as Deathwatch with Stalker Bolters. Would any of you guys see a problem in that?

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meh_ wrote:


Pics of sprues please?

On GW's site. Have been there for a week.