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Via War of Sigmar

A 42% price increase?

That's nice. Thanks GW.

It does look like a big kit, but I'm not sure if a tenner less than a Aquila strongpoint or Fortress of redemption is worth it. Still at least its not a limited release this time round. And perhaps this means that the big plasma cannon emplacement might come back in plastic as well?

That already was in plastic.

Hmm... Void Shield Generator in plastic? Might have to get my mitts on it...

A plastic Void Generator? Nice. I was one of the folks who tried ordering it online 3 hours after its release to find out it was sold out. I couldn't find one reasonably priced on any secondary markets.

Stayed up to 5 in the fething morning to get mine.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That already was in plastic.

Really? Never seen one in the flesh. Just heard that it was a pain to assemble and fit properly and assumed it was resin Hopefully they have done a better job with the generator.

Can't wait to see what this Black Crusade book reveals .

It even says it;s the same as the 'previous resin version of the kit'.

Has anyone seen the price for khárn? On the pic you cant make it out. Looks £15? If so that's excellent. Its likely not but hey after deathwatch characters who knows

 Motograter wrote:
Has anyone seen the price for khárn? On the pic you cant make it out. Looks £15? If so that's excellent. Its likely not but hey after deathwatch characters who knows

Trying to make out other values and comparing those price marks looks to be bit more than that though could be incorrect. Photo very blurry so I could be misreading big time.

 Motograter wrote:
Has anyone seen the price for khárn? On the pic you cant make it out. Looks £15? If so that's excellent. Its likely not but hey after deathwatch characters who knows

€29, £25, $33

 Motograter wrote:
Has anyone seen the price for khárn? On the pic you cant make it out. Looks £15? If so that's excellent. Its likely not but hey after deathwatch characters who knows

The price I can make out is 43 Canadian dollars. That is the same price as the tech priest dominus unfortunately.

...but ... void shield generator ... in plastic? ...for only $100??

Well, I'm never buying a "limitted release" or collector's model produced by GW ever again

 Red_Ink_Cat wrote:
...but ... void shield generator ... in plastic? ...for only $100??

Well, I'm never buying a "limitted release" or collector's model produced by GW ever again

To be fair it's not that much cheaper than the resin version.
Resin (or really wasn't it polystone?) will still probably look better.
The void shield generator in resin had about two years of being much better rulewise than the plastic version will get after the faq.

gungo wrote:
To be fair it's not that much cheaper than the resin version.

Cheaper? It's more expensive!

So given that the psychic disciplines in Traitor's Hate are possibly a (possibly worse) rehash of the AoD psychic disciplines, and given that AoD did not contain any new formations - just compiled existing ones and organized them into a bunch of new super detachments - what are the chances that the formations are exactly the same as the Black Legion and Crimson Slaughter supplements organized into a new super detachment?

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
So given that the psychic disciplines in Traitor's Hate are possibly a (possibly worse) rehash of the AoD psychic disciplines, and given that AoD did not contain any new formations - just compiled existing ones and organized them into a bunch of new super detachments - what are the chances that the formations are exactly the same as the Black Legion and Crimson Slaughter supplements organized into a new super detachment?

I would bet a whole "Start Collecting" box that they aren't.

There may be some rehashed formations (probably the helbrute ones and the Kharn one) but I suspect most of the formations (and the inevitable decurion style superformation) in here will be open to all flavours of chaos marine.

Leggy wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
So given that the psychic disciplines in Traitor's Hate are possibly a (possibly worse) rehash of the AoD psychic disciplines, and given that AoD did not contain any new formations - just compiled existing ones and organized them into a bunch of new super detachments - what are the chances that the formations are exactly the same as the Black Legion and Crimson Slaughter supplements organized into a new super detachment?

I would bet a whole "Start Collecting" box that they aren't.

There may be some rehashed formations (probably the helbrute ones and the Kharn one) but I suspect most of the formations (and the inevitable decurion style superformation) in here will be open to all flavours of chaos marine.

I wouldn't count on it. Black Legion and Crimson Slaughter are mentioned specifically here. The IG superformation is available only to Cadians, so it's not like there's no precedent.

gungo wrote:To be fair it's not that much cheaper than the resin version.
Resin (or really wasn't it polystone?) will still probably look better.
The void shield generator in resin had about two years of being much better rulewise than the plastic version will get after the faq.

Yeah... I did not get mine in the original release - bought it probs 2 years ago second hand NIB. I paid through the fething nose for it

It was my favorite, most prized model.

Also FAQ? What do we know about the rules changing?

Oh so natfkas rumour was right all along the generator just came out later then the deathwatch stuff.

nagash42 wrote:
Oh so natfkas rumour was right all along the generator just came out later then the deathwatch stuff.

A broken clock is right twice a day.

I much prefer Subtle Discord's shield generator. Plus, it actually has glowing plasma. And it is roughly the same price.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

gungo wrote:
To be fair it's not that much cheaper than the resin version.

Cheaper? It's more expensive!

I don't know down there, but here it's the same price.

 Gordon Shumway wrote:
I much prefer Subtle Discord's shield generator. Plus, it actually has glowing plasma. And it is roughly the same price.

Spoiler:

Yeah, I've been eyeballing that one, along with a few other kits on the site.

I'll probably end up with two shield generators, one for travel (GW plastic) and one for home (plasma ball).

 Gordon Shumway wrote:
I much prefer Subtle Discord's shield generator. Plus, it actually has glowing plasma. And it is roughly the same price.

Spoiler:

Subtle Disord?
It's "Dark Works" that sells that one isn't it?
http://thedarkworks.bigcartel.com/product/arcis-pattern-mk-i-hvy-shield-generator

120 cad for the generator and 43 cad for Kharn !!!!

After the reasonably priced watchmaster (30$), I tought GW were adopting a more sensible pricing strategy. Seem like they have no idea where they are going

Nice to see the generator actually being put into production properly. That was a stupid decision to make [limiting the original release] and just seemed to add to the view that GW doesn't know what the feth they are doing.

Also, Haha at those who have a stockpile of them for resale and those that paid silly prices from scrapers

Now, about the plasma obliterator...

I imagine formation wise will depend on what if anything comes out. Khárn by himself with a book and cards is not gonna do much.

New zerkers, chaos marines, havocs, updated termies, oblit/muties, power armoured lord, new vehicles or at least some extra onto the rhino and land raider. Any of those would be a huge boon to chaos fans. Fingers crossed its more than just the betrayer