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I'm reading through the DW codex and its alluding to an emerging threat from the Ghoul Stars. Fort Pykeman monitors the ghoul stars specifically. We also know a Tyranid hive fleet got turned around in there and confused. We know they sent in a crusade that seen entire chapters destroyed to contain the threat. So what could it be? It says the Barhghesi are an emergent threat. However there are also other stranger things in the Ghoul Stars. At the very end of the DW codex lore it says the xenos tides are rising. Is this all fluff or are GW laying the lore groundwork for more Xenos releases? The codex also references other Xenos we know stuff about that don't have codices such as Hrud, Jokero, an ork who made a device that disrupted Tyranid synapse, lacrymoles, and exodite eldar.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Barghesi
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Pale_Wasting

I mean the DW are cool, but we need some cool Xenos to fight. Of all these mentioned which do you think has the highest probability of seeing a release. Honestly I hope to see at least two of these cool things. Hrud and Barghesi.

I wouldn't hold your breath.

Barghesi never heard of them. They sure sound Grim dark enough, and might be fun. 'The question is if GW is willing to create a minor faction that doesn't ally well with existing armies.

Tyranids and Tau. Both don't ally well. I mean you would think the Tau would but they are cutting that our a lot lately from a mechanics point.

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The thing is unless people keep talking and pestering them for a new alien race we'll only get more space marines. The cycle needs to be broken and we need to see a new interesting Xenos join the fray. The Ghoul Stars posses the most lore merit for something badass.

Na I would love them to be the next race. Its just that I can't see Gw taking the risk when they could do a race that a large part of the players might want to start with as an ally in.


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Just look at the previous releases.

- Death watch -> Imperial allies
- Eldrad -> Eldar.
- Choas knights -> Chaos
- Gene stealers -> Tyranids (controversy and thus lower sales)
- harlequins -> Eldar
- Knights -> chaos
- Admech ->imp
- skitarii -> imp
- Tempestus -> imp
- Legion of the Damned -> Imperial
- Inquisition -> Imperial
- Sisters -> Imperial

It was a long time ago when a "new army" wasn't build to double as a good small ally force. So the question might be who would ally those hyper agressive xenos species.

It's more likely than CSM getting a good codex and a model line rework this side of Age of Emprar.
It's less likely than Eldar recieving a buff somehow in 8E.

Unless GW decides that they are allyable with existing factions, bc Old Wunz do erryting. At which point we may as well declare 40k officially dead.

The last time might be tau but that was a long time ago.

And they didn't have all this mandatory allies and formations gak to work around...

They have been dropping hints of late. Would be a big boost with thw 8th release of the models and rules are good.

 Eldarain wrote:
They have been dropping hints of late. Would be a big boost with thw 8th release of the models and rules are good.

I know the build up in the lore is intense lately. It can't be a coincidence. Then again the last time this happened was the Eldrad and the resurrection of the god of death. We all know how that went. Let's hope if they do make a new Xenos its handled better than that.

The Ghoul Stars have been a go too for spooky unknowable aliens for sometime. Eisenhorn and prior. Heck they come up often enough in the background for the Legions and such in 30k. Sometimes there is such a thing as looking too far into things and I think this is one of them.

Though rules for a Build-a-Force of Unknowable Alien Horrors would be cool.

Meh, I'm still waiting on the Hrudd and Demiurg.

What necessitates the watch of an entire Watch Fortress and an entire chapter of space marines to guard the region. That's overkill for a region where the IoM don't have any inhabitable worlds. I think we'll see what is in those stars sooner rather than later.

 Gamgee wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
They have been dropping hints of late. Would be a big boost with thw 8th release of the models and rules are good.

I know the build up in the lore is intense lately. It can't be a coincidence. Then again the last time this happened was the Eldrad and the resurrection of the god of death. We all know how that went. Let's hope if they do make a new Xenos its handled better than that.

I think there are major developments in that storyline yet to come.

 Gamgee wrote:
What necessitates the watch of an entire Watch Fortress and an entire chapter of space marines to guard the region. That's overkill for a region where the IoM don't have any inhabitable worlds. I think we'll see what is in those stars sooner rather than later.

except a space marine chapter being there to guard has been there for awhile

 Eldarain wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
They have been dropping hints of late. Would be a big boost with thw 8th release of the models and rules are good.

I know the build up in the lore is intense lately. It can't be a coincidence. Then again the last time this happened was the Eldrad and the resurrection of the god of death. We all know how that went. Let's hope if they do make a new Xenos its handled better than that.

I think there are major developments in that storyline yet to come.

I make jokes, but even that is obvious to me. The storm is here.

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I know it has been there for a long time and the Watchfortress as well. Yet the book clearly is alluding to something in that region that is stirring. My point is that something has to be very powerful. Is it the same thing that destroyed all those space marine chapters? There are also other xenos in the ghoul stars that are mysteriously disappearing. Yet it's clearly not the Tyranids since they can't navigate the area. There was a xenos species about to be annihilated in the final blow on their last planet (homeworld). When the space marine chapter in question arrived they found the aliens gone and yet it didn't show signs that the Tyranids did it since the planet was fine and the barren rock of Tyranid invasion is a dead give away.

The thing is, is that the Barghesi are basically werewolves, are GW really likely to add another wolf man army? They should absolutely do more aliens though.

I would love to see something out of the ghoul stars! Almost as much as I would love to see Slaugth or Hrud get a release... in those cases, my FLGS's would probably finally see sells of the nurgle rot technical paint.

I hope not. There are too many armies currently in the game that are desperately in need of an update.

 Gamgee wrote:
What necessitates the watch of an entire Watch Fortress and an entire chapter of space marines to guard the region. That's overkill for a region where the IoM don't have any inhabitable worlds. I think we'll see what is in those stars sooner rather than later.

Many dangerous things.

The Barghesi
Necron Flayed Ones (the most powerful of all the necrons who have succumbed to the Flayer Virus resides there with his numberous Flayed One followers)
Cythor Fiends
Trogan Bloodreeks

And many other unnamed xenos that are just described as being "unspeakable horrors".


From memory part of the Death Spectres fluff is that they are there not only to stop the denizens of the Ghoul Stars threatening the galaxy; they are also there to stop the Tyranids from absorbing their biomass.

The mysterious aliens in the Ghoul Stars are...



*suspenseful pause*



...Necrons. Now go buy some Necrons.

From the sounds of what I read the Necrons wouldn't necessitate a crusade of that size particularly back then when it happened since even more of them would be sleeping.

would be awesome to see the hrudd get models, but I ain't holding my breath. Theyre the most referenced and unique of the xenos other than the enslavers

a distinct new alien threat would require them putting out a LOT of models in a short time frame, or producing multi kits that put even grey knights to shame

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
The mysterious aliens in the Ghoul Stars are...

*suspenseful pause*

...Necrons. Now go buy some Necrons.

I was under the impression that Tyranids were entirely uninterested in consuming Necrons, considering their robotic nature. Correct me if I am wrong, but even necron "living metal" would not be considered biomass, so why keep the Tyranids out? Especially since the Tyranids likely have other vectors of encountering Necrons in other locations.

If you were being sarcastic though, please disregard me.

As for new xenos, yes, yes, and thrice yes. We need some love to counter all the IOM stuff that has been getting released lately. If given the choice, I would pick Hrud, not just because they are so obviously inspired by a mishmash of Lovecraftian things, but because their specific flavor of grim dark is really fun in my head. And they do not subscribe to the general 40k "violence first, questions later" machismo mentality.

Please no. There's too many factions for GW to support properly anyway. Last thing we need is another to reduce support for existing non-marine factions even further.

tneva82 wrote:
Please no. There's too many factions for GW to support properly anyway. Last thing we need is another to reduce support for existing non-marine factions even further.

It will be Marines who have been mind controlled by a tentacle-monster-god-planet.

They are my Tentacle Marines, and they shall know no xenos updates!

I doubt we'll see an entirely new faction. all the "new armies" we've seen have been basicly support forces for existing factions. this is proably cause it's easier as they can make less. a genunely new faction would require a LOT of units to launch.

bare minimum you'd need 1 HQ, 1 troop choice (and most armies have 2) and proably 2 FA, 2 HS and 2 elite choices each.

so you'd be looking at likely proably a dozen new kits when all was said and done. and they'd have to release it in a short time period.

BrianDavion wrote:
I doubt we'll see an entirely new faction. all the "new armies" we've seen have been basicly support forces for existing factions. this is proably cause it's easier as they can make less. a genunely new faction would require a LOT of units to launch.

bare minimum you'd need 1 HQ, 1 troop choice (and most armies have 2) and proably 2 FA, 2 HS and 2 elite choices each.

so you'd be looking at likely proably a dozen new kits when all was said and done. and they'd have to release it in a short time period.

That's what people said though before tau was released...That was completely new faction as well.

They could get with 1 clampack, 1 dual purpose troop kit, one dual purpose elite/HS kit and vechile as a start.

Or they could go for grey knight route where same kit can be used to build elite, troop, fa and hs choices...

It *could* be that they have been working on something for a couple of years, and we do not know GW's actual production capacity. But I don't think GW will do anything more adventurous than some more marine variants.