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Maybe.

Course there's different levels of immortality too.

By the time of the Beast Arises his mind was totally gone.

Didn't know the year, people's names, where he was etc etc.

The ending seemed very final too.

Leggy wrote:

Davor wrote:

 Vash108 wrote:
I wonder if GW will retcon Angron bring banished for 1000 years.

When was he banished? Maybe they will say it was 1000 years in the warp but only a few years (or centuries depending when he was banished) in real time. So for him it was a 1000 years of what ever he was in and he had a 1000 years of planning for vengeance/revenge but for us it was a few years/centuries when he was banished.

If I remember correctly, Angron was banished in the First War for Armageddon, which took place 500 years before the Second War for Armageddon, which took place 50 years before the Third War for Armageddon, which is taking place in the present (as it were).

So Angron should have a good 450 years left in his banishment.

Of course, maybe Ghazkull Thraka is secretly being guided by Angron, and his whole obsession with Armageddon is linked to creating enough bloodshed that the Daemon Primarch can break his banishment.

Thank you for the explanation.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:RE: Dorn, per the novel Space Marine by Ian Watson his skeleton is mounted in the Fist's fortress monastery and chapter masters inscribe their names on his bones when they take office.

So if he's alive he must be really pissed.

Also worth noting Sad Panda said there'd be a primarch on Team Empire, not necessarily a loyalist primarch. maybe one of the Chaos Primarchs sees the light, or maybe they just want to twart Magnus' plans.

That sounds like he is dead to me. For the Chaos Primarch coming back could that be Alpharius (Omgeanon if Alpharius is really dead) (spelling?). Also just curious, what Primarchs did Forge World do not do yet? Maybe one of them will be coming back. Did FW do a Magnus the Red mini?

Kinetochore wrote:Wish people would stop using the Emperor's throne failing as a hint to AOS of 40k

I'm sure the throne failing bit was in the 3rd Ed rule book timeline or at least source material from that time.

Not got my copy to hand

That was 5th edition. It just goes to show you how starved people are for fluff advancement or new fluff being added people are still going on about it. It's like it was the only new fluff to advance the 40K story. That is pretty bad after 20 years of having a sterile story that people get excited when the golden toilet can't be fixed by the plumbers.

Davor wrote:

Kinetochore wrote:Wish people would stop using the Emperor's throne failing as a hint to AOS of 40k

I'm sure the throne failing bit was in the 3rd Ed rule book timeline or at least source material from that time.

Not got my copy to hand

That was 5th edition. It just goes to show you how starved people are for fluff advancement or new fluff being added people are still going on about it. It's like it was the only new fluff to advance the 40K story. That is pretty bad after 20 years of having a sterile story that people get excited when the golden toilet can't be fixed by the plumbers.

Yeah, I admit I'm one of those guys I have been expecting something grand to come out from that development, the rise of the Starchild, ever since I saw that piece of fluff. I really want the status quo to change.

Other tiny pieces of lore that made go bananas, was one novel about Eldar: For the first time since ever, the Harlequins changed the play that tells the tale of birth of Slaanesh, the one they need a Solitaire for: The God of the Dead shows up. That cursed tiny bit of lore is another that I'm starving for more development, the birth of the Eldar God of the Dead.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
RE: Dorn, per the novel Space Marine by Ian Watson his skeleton is mounted in the Fist's fortress monastery and chapter masters inscribe their names on his bones when they take office.

So if he's alive he must be really pissed.

Those are just the bones of his hand. Not his entire skeleton. His body was not found. So as far as we know he is still hiding, captured or wandering around and going by the name "Stumpy" now.

I'm a bit conflicted on Magnus's look. I think a bit of a different paintjob might make it look better.

No, me learned friend is quite collect.

Back when space marine was 1st released they had his whole body encased in amber.

Later on the Index Astartes articles seemed confirm his death, and then they only seemed to recover his hands.

However since the publication of the HH series the Index Astartes articles are no longer strict canon -- insomuchas anything is strict with regards to GW blah blah etc etc -- but that series has, allbeit obliquely , hinted towards his death with things like Kurze's vision and the like.

Vulkan was the last of the primarchs -- thus far anyway -- to finally disappear and that was in the Beast Arises series.

 pretre wrote:


From Lords of War Gaming

Looks like all the Sons are going to be back in the Red.

Ah, maybe not. Just remembered/realised that game is set in 30K.

lol@ "Not Bjorn" the Fell handed

 Bulldogging wrote:
lol@ "Not Bjorn" the Fell handed

It's not Bjorn. He takes his claw from the Master of the Forge on Fenris later. Bjorn is however, part of the honour guard when they go trash Prospero.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Bulldogging wrote:
lol@ "Not Bjorn" the Fell handed

It's not Bjorn. He takes his claw from the Master of the Forge on Fenris later. Bjorn is however, part of the honour guard when they go trash Prospero.

You have to admit it is silly as hell though. The mini looks identical to the guy on Bjorns old banner ie himself fighting a Wyrm. It's definitely a not-Bjorn whatever the excuse it. Either way I am glad to have the mini, I'll simply consider him Bjorn.

I guess it's also silly and funny to my because I can't help but think about the movie Beerfest:

"I can't believe Landfill is dead! Wait...Landfill?"
"No, I am Landfills twin brother, but for all intensive purpose you can refer to me as Landfill, I'd like to take his place on the team?"
"Welcome to the Team Landfill"

Those models are gorgeous. I just need high-res close ups though. And yeah that should be Bjorn, not Geigor.

Just a thought. Could Geigor be Bjorn's last name? Maybe a way to keep from calling two different miniatures by the same name?

 Zhrukal wrote:
Just a thought. Could Geigor be Bjorn's last name? Maybe a way to keep from calling two different miniatures by the same name?

No, they're two different characters. It's been said multiple times in this thread.

 Zhrukal wrote:
Just a thought. Could Geigor be Bjorn's last name? Maybe a way to keep from calling two different miniatures by the same name?

But you'd still run into the timeline problems. Bjorn didn't lose the hand until the battle of Prospero, so shouldn't have the lightning claw or the nickname yet.

 Zhrukal wrote:
Just a thought. Could Geigor be Bjorn's last name? Maybe a way to keep from calling two different miniatures by the same name?

I thought Space Marines gave up their names when becoming Space Marines. I thought they only have one name now, no Surnames.

Davor wrote:

 Zhrukal wrote:
Just a thought. Could Geigor be Bjorn's last name? Maybe a way to keep from calling two different miniatures by the same name?

I thought Space Marines gave up their names when becoming Space Marines. I thought they only have one name now, no Surnames.

Marneus Calgar
Cato Sicarius
etc.

Doesn't seem to be the case, unless many of them have double-barrelled given names.

Looks terrible (grotesk) if you ask me.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
EDIT: Confirmed via Warhammer TV [b]along with plastic Sisters! And wow, it's a big model, looks like 5-6" tall![/b]

Sorry to quote this from the very first page, but I can't seem to find any additional info beyond this mention about plastic sisters. If I've missed it can someone point me in the right direction, or is that literally all the news ("it's coming at last!")?

Edit: is the reference only to the Sisters of Silence from Prospero Burns? If so my enthusiasm is... tempered.

 Buzzsaw wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:
EDIT: Confirmed via Warhammer TV [b]along with plastic Sisters! And wow, it's a big model, looks like 5-6" tall![/b]

Sorry to quote this from the very first page, but I can't seem to find any additional info beyond this mention about plastic sisters. If I've missed it can someone point me in the right direction, or is that literally all the news ("it's coming at last!")?

Sisters of Silence. In the Prospero box.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Buzzsaw wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:
EDIT: Confirmed via Warhammer TV [b]along with plastic Sisters! And wow, it's a big model, looks like 5-6" tall![/b]

Sorry to quote this from the very first page, but I can't seem to find any additional info beyond this mention about plastic sisters. If I've missed it can someone point me in the right direction, or is that literally all the news ("it's coming at last!")?

Sisters of Silence. In the Prospero box.

Beat my edit. I was hoping for a rather more... fulsome release, but baby steps, baby steps...

the warhammer tv video clearly say plastic sisters of battle (not silence) so if you believe they're not just winding folk up there more relevant stuff to come

Well, that picture above clearly states that Sisters of Silence and Custodes will have rules for 40k. That makes me happy. I'm unsure if I will use the actual models or converted Sigmarines.

I want rules for Tartaros armour for both SM (all variants) and CSM. Sweeping terminators might actually make them not bad!

Prospero box looks great and all but anyone heard anymore about the 40k Thousand Sons?

November the earliest, with a good chance they will be released this year, but we dont know more atm.


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Or do you mean model-wise?

Magnus and plastic Rubrics (in power amour) are confirmed by the video. Sad Panda has also posted a cryptic hint about Rubric Terminators. It sounded like we will get some in plastic - he had teased familiars to be in Silver Tower in a similiar way for example.

Plastic Magnus and Plastic Rubrics are great, but they will need to add some special Thousand Sons terminators or something to get me to go all in with this, so I really hope the above is true.

As far as 40k goes, I just want something official to show that only Ahriman's sect chose Blue and Gold and the rest of the Thousand Sons are still red. I know it's in the novels, but that's not canon.

With HH, the Thousand Sons were mostly a Mk3 army right? Mk4 didn't come out until the HH was in full swing after Prospero was destroyed?

Their armor was always described as heavily artificier, no mk was particularly mentioned.

Ironically, in the design notes for the various armor MK's, Jes said he always imagined that the thousand sons would be heavily mkIV -

 MajorTom11 wrote:
Their armor was always described as heavily artificier, no mk was particularly mentioned.

Ironically, in the design notes for the various armor MK's, Jes said he always imagined that the thousand sons would be heavily mkIV -

Which makes me pretty content with their upgrade bits being Mk IV, and the vast majority of my in-process TS army Mk IV. I prefer Mk IV's aesthetics over the others, too.

 godswildcard wrote:
Plastic Magnus and Plastic Rubrics are great, but they will need to add some special Thousand Sons terminators or something to get me to go all in with this, so I really hope the above is true.

Sad Panda is never wrong, so thousand son terminators are definitely coming. I am more curious if they will go straight from 30k to 40k thousand sons or if there will be and Aos filled pause in the middle. There are four weeks between prospero and the rumoured bloodbowl preorder, which is plenty of time for a major release.