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Looks great! Cant wait to see the rest of the rules.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

NivlacSupreme wrote:
Mastery level 15....

I thought 4 was a lot.

Remember, this is GW. They'll probably have written the rule so that whilst he knows at least 15, half of them must be from lore of tzeentch

I would imagine you don't get a choice and that his powers are already chosen for you.

So he's massive but still just a MC.. er okay strange.

 Kirasu wrote:
So he's massive but still just a MC.. er okay strange.

I'm hoping this is a sign that GCs are getting phased out or at least toned down.

ing Wraithknights.

I am ok with the stats, love what I read and can't wait for more.
I think honestly he would be broken if he was Gargantuan.

7 + 7 + 8 + 7 + 7 + 7 + 6 + 10 + 4 = 63

6 + 3 = 9
63 / 7 = 9

He isn't a GMC. Interesting, interesting. And is this fake or is GW intentionally trying to piss me off?

I see they mention that Magnus in a TS detachment can have a boost to his invulnerable save. So presumably the Tsons/TDK decurion gives a +1 to invulnerables, or something along those lines

Glad he isn't a GMC. Less of them please, GW.

On that note GW should release an errata on Christmas Day that nerfs eldar down to mid tier, starting by making the WK a regular MC again. That would be awesome.

Given that's its from GW, probably the latter.

Or they understood the wraithknight was a colossal feth up (heh, accidental pun) and now don't give GMC status easily.

Looks good so far, tough but not to a ridiculous level, and the psychic powers will bring the carnage. Destroying a Baneblade? Really interested in his psychic abilities and his other stats now

 BoomWolf wrote:
Given that's its from GW, probably the latter.

Or they understood the wraithknight was a colossal feth up (heh, accidental pun) and now don't give GMC status easily.

It just annoys me so much that Tau get a big robot who is GMC, Eldar get a big pile of bones which is GMC but Daemons and Nids, the armies of monstrous creatures, only get GMC's at apocalypse level and only then for a rediculous number of points.

But this argument has been discussed many a time so I will stay on topic: was this released directly from GW or someone else?

Directly on GW community site.

 BoomWolf wrote:
Directly on GW community site.

Well, since he isn't a GMC I would hope his points' would be a little lower... Right?...

Man he is not survivable in the least! But then again, if you don't have first turn something like 2 broadside units (no drones) and a single pathfinder team will likely kill Magnus in a single turn so you'll be fethed. That's a rather big gamble in my opinion.

Then again we haven't gotten his full rules, he might have FNP, ITWND or some other special rule/trinket that makes him more survivable.

Not survivable? Grimoire of True Names for a 2++ rerollable.

15 powers likely means 2 full schools plus 1 power unique to Magnus.

He's almost definitely got Eternal Warrior, all the Primarchs do.

I'd like to see the rest of his rules. Just the profile alone isn't enough to know how tough he really is. Right now he's certainly not going to be cutting wraith knights in half.
With his focus being on psy powers though I imagine you'll want him to be flying around, that combined with a potential 2++ re-rollable would make him nigh impossible to take down.

Also, is this the first time GW beat rumour mongers at their own game lol?

XT-1984 wrote:
Not survivable? Grimoire of True Names for a 2++ rerollable.

Or 5++ depending how your dice feel.

 Snake Tortoise wrote:
I see they mention that Magnus in a TS detachment can have a boost to his invulnerable save. So presumably the Tsons/TDK decurion gives a +1 to invulnerables, or something along those lines

Glad he isn't a GMC. Less of them please, GW.

On that note GW should release an errata on Christmas Day that nerfs eldar down to mid tier, starting by making the WK a regular MC again. That would be awesome.

The boost being the ability to re-roll 1s

They may allow him to gain GMC rules for a turn or something to represent his size increasing fluff rules.

 Kirasu wrote:
So he's massive but still just a MC.. er okay strange.

The camera puts an extra 10 pounds on him but in actuality Magnus is very svelte.

XT-1984 wrote:
Not survivable? Grimoire of True Names for a 2++ rerollable.

Putting aside how easy it is to fail Grimoire (as someone who played Screamerstar for a while, I can attest), 2++rr doesn't mean anything against Stomps or Ds of 6. Because reasons.

That said, his points will really dictate how good he is, as obvious as that sounds. Not enough info to make any sort of call on him.

Requizen wrote:

XT-1984 wrote:
Not survivable? Grimoire of True Names for a 2++ rerollable.

Putting aside how easy it is to fail Grimoire (as someone who played Screamerstar for a while, I can attest), 2++rr doesn't mean anything against Stomps or Ds of 6. Because reasons.

That said, his points will really dictate how good he is, as obvious as that sounds. Not enough info to make any sort of call on him.

Yea, but there's much less of a chance to get hit by that while he is in the air.

I love when people don't think my tzeentch daemons are survivable!

snap shoot at my rerollable 2++ model while it rains death on you,

I'd imagine Magnus knows all the tzeentch powers from both csm and daemons plus the "baneblade kiling" gaze of Magnus that's 15 powers!

I wonder if he knows all of diviniation. That would be nasty.

He will probably be 999 pts or something dumb.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
He will probably be 999 pts or something dumb.

There's no doubt in my mind that he'll cost exactly that.

 Roknar wrote:

Requizen wrote:

XT-1984 wrote:
Not survivable? Grimoire of True Names for a 2++ rerollable.

Putting aside how easy it is to fail Grimoire (as someone who played Screamerstar for a while, I can attest), 2++rr doesn't mean anything against Stomps or Ds of 6. Because reasons.

That said, his points will really dictate how good he is, as obvious as that sounds. Not enough info to make any sort of call on him.

Yea, but there's much less of a chance to get hit by that while he is in the air.

In practice, you don't put Grimoire on something in the air. You spread out your defensive buffs. If you put 2++ on Magnus and then he flies, they're just going to kill the rest of your army. That's the reason that 2++ goes on Screamerstar and not on Fatey. Unless you put the 2++ on your Dronestar and run your Screamerstar around the edge of the map.

 nintura wrote:

 Snake Tortoise wrote:
I see they mention that Magnus in a TS detachment can have a boost to his invulnerable save. So presumably the Tsons/TDK decurion gives a +1 to invulnerables, or something along those lines

Glad he isn't a GMC. Less of them please, GW.

On that note GW should release an errata on Christmas Day that nerfs eldar down to mid tier, starting by making the WK a regular MC again. That would be awesome.

The boost being the ability to re-roll 1s

Isn't that just the Daemon Tzeentch ability anyway?