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Considering we already have pictures from WD saying that the kit contains unless Warpflamers to equip the entire squad with them, I'm going to go and apply all the more salt to that particular Faeit rumour.

Not that it isn't doing much beyond vague statements, but still...

It could be a minimum unit is 5.

 Skerr wrote:
It could be a minimum unit is 5.

It's very clearly says the entire unit - the entire unit is 10 so...

 Slayer le boucher wrote:

via anonymous sources on Faeit 212
WoM is hardcase like End Times books were and has 2 books. One is the fluff and other is rules. All that info is correct (from previous rumors) but it’s laid out in two parts, CSM TSons and Tz demons to add to/overwrite current CSM or Demons codex to play a TSons list.

The 9 traitor legions, yeah, mostly formations, data scrolls, relics, way more psyker powers and chapter tactics like SMs so this is a HUGE boost.

Dec 3rd preorder for legions, 10th for Imperials.

PS: the rubric marines box is stunning
1) its comes with an amazingly diverse transfer sheet and
2) 10 infernal boltgun and 5 warpflamers. Soul reaper cannon.

Only on Faeit do they feel the need to draw a comparison of WoM to End Times.

Consider that every other Campaign type supplement has also had 2 hardbacks, one fluff, one rules. So that just confirms it follows an existing pattern.

Thanks Faeit!

via anonymous sources on Faeit 212 wrote:
WoM is hardcase like End Times books were...

Umm... the 40K campaign books have all been in hard-cases. If this one is too it's because the first Fenris book was.

The new psychic powers for Chaos marines are going to be the ones from traitors hate, I guarantee you. Maybe they will throw in the Fenris part one powers as well for csm to use.

Just like how Angels of Death had 'new formations' for marine players, when it was just the Raven Guard and White Scars formations with the Skyhammer sheet thrown in.

 Crazyterran wrote:
The new psychic powers for Chaos marines are going to be the ones from traitors hate, I guarantee you. Maybe they will throw in the Fenris part one powers as well for csm to use.

Just like how Angels of Death had 'new formations' for marine players, when it was just the Raven Guard and White Scars formations with the Skyhammer sheet thrown in.

If this is true then I might just hurt something.
According to leaks though, the TS will have access to BRB powers, TH powers AND new Tzeentch powers.

Also has anyone noticed BoK is saying the new primaris will be +1 invul to Tzeentch models not +2 invul for anything?

Can...we just get some real leaks here... I'm feigning pretty bad at this point!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

via anonymous sources on Faeit 212 wrote:
WoM is hardcase like End Times books were...

Umm... the 40K campaign books have all been in hard-cases. If this one is too it's because the first Fenris book was.

I know, right?

It's like, there's been a pattern for every 40k supplement. But people are too eager to state 40k is becoming AoS next edition so gotta draw those straws

 mrhappyface wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
The new psychic powers for Chaos marines are going to be the ones from traitors hate, I guarantee you. Maybe they will throw in the Fenris part one powers as well for csm to use.

Just like how Angels of Death had 'new formations' for marine players, when it was just the Raven Guard and White Scars formations with the Skyhammer sheet thrown in.

If this is true then I might just hurt something.
According to leaks though, the TS will have access to BRB powers, TH powers AND new Tzeentch powers.

Also has anyone noticed BoK is saying the new primaris will be +1 invul to Tzeentch models not +2 invul for anything?

I don't think faeit has been right about anything, so take whatever they say at and toss it right out.

I mean, maybe they will have updated psychic power tables for Tzeentch, Nurgle and Slaanesh, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

rtb02 wrote:

 Skerr wrote:
It could be a minimum unit is 5.

It's very clearly says the entire unit - the entire unit is 10 so...

Where? In the current dex a min unit is 5. Just because 10 come in the box?

Seriously though, where does it say a min unit is 10?

The Faeit rubbish is for one purpose, and it has succeeded since you are discussing it.
They do not vet any rumors, they post them in order to get people to click on them and the more dire they sound the more likely someone will click.
They do not care about being right, they already get your clicks.
I can not think of one thing that Faeit or Bols got before it appeared on Dakka here or Bolter.

Didn't faet also say that WoM would have updated disciplines for all the gods? Because that seems pretty unlikely to me. I'm not expecting any new psychic powers between the two books except for an updated tzeentzch discipline or a copy paste from the previous daemon one except now for marines too.

 Skerr wrote:

rtb02 wrote:

 Skerr wrote:
It could be a minimum unit is 5.

It's very clearly says the entire unit - the entire unit is 10 so...

Where? In the current dex a min unit is 5. Just because 10 come in the box?

Seriously though, where does it say a min unit is 10?

Yes the minimum size unit may be 5 but there is enough flamers in the box to arm 10 "the entire unit" would be 5-10 it's up to you if you want to build the box as two 5 man units or one 10 man unit either way they are entire units.

 pretre wrote:

Liberame wrote:
To be fair there were 10 auxiliary choices, so he was partially correct with them all

Helforged Warpack Formation,
Heldrake Terror Pack Formation,
Cult of Destruction Formation,
Fist of the Gods Formation,
Raptor Talon Formaiton,
Terminator Annihilation Force Formation,
Favoured of the Chaos Formation,
Trinity of Blood Formation,
Chaos Spawn Units
Khorne Berzerkers,
Thousand Sons,
Plague Marines,
Noise Marines.

That's 8 different aux formations, 13 if you count the Spawn and Cults as aux formations.

8 different formations + 1 for spawn + 1 for the cults as they are actually one entry = 10 auxiliary choices.

 BloodGrin wrote:
The Faeit rubbish is for one purpose, and it has succeeded since you are discussing it.
They do not vet any rumors, they post them in order to get people to click on them and the more dire they sound the more likely someone will click.
They do not care about being right, they already get your clicks.
I can not think of one thing that Faeit or Bols got before it appeared on Dakka here or Bolter.

To be honest I get most of my news from Faeit which I then fact-check on Dakkdakka because its lay-out is just that much easier to navigate. One click to a rumour article or search through tens of pages of forum posts, I'll take the former.

DaPino wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Liberame wrote:
To be fair there were 10 auxiliary choices, so he was partially correct with them all

Helforged Warpack Formation,
Heldrake Terror Pack Formation,
Cult of Destruction Formation,
Fist of the Gods Formation,
Raptor Talon Formaiton,
Terminator Annihilation Force Formation,
Favoured of the Chaos Formation,
Trinity of Blood Formation,
Chaos Spawn Units
Khorne Berzerkers,
Thousand Sons,
Plague Marines,
Noise Marines.

That's 8 different aux formations, 13 if you count the Spawn and Cults as aux formations.

8 different formations + 1 for spawn + 1 for the cults as they are actually one entry = 10 auxiliary choices.

 BloodGrin wrote:
The Faeit rubbish is for one purpose, and it has succeeded since you are discussing it.
They do not vet any rumors, they post them in order to get people to click on them and the more dire they sound the more likely someone will click.
They do not care about being right, they already get your clicks.
I can not think of one thing that Faeit or Bols got before it appeared on Dakka here or Bolter.

To be honest I get most of my news from Faeit which I then fact-check on Dakkdakka because its lay-out is just that much easier to navigate. One click to a rumour article or search through tens of pages of forum posts, I'll take the former.

Given you have to fact check anyway, wouldn't it just be easier to go through a thread on Dakka to begin with?

 Mantle wrote:

 Skerr wrote:

rtb02 wrote:

 Skerr wrote:
It could be a minimum unit is 5.

It's very clearly says the entire unit - the entire unit is 10 so...

Where? In the current dex a min unit is 5. Just because 10 come in the box?

Seriously though, where does it say a min unit is 10?

Yes the minimum size unit may be 5 but there is enough flamers in the box to arm 10 "the entire unit" would be 5-10 it's up to you if you want to build the box as two 5 man units or one 10 man unit either way they are entire units.

I get that. Maybe homey was wrong when he saw the contents, maybe WD was wrong. We will know for sure soon.

 Imateria wrote:

DaPino wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Liberame wrote:
To be fair there were 10 auxiliary choices, so he was partially correct with them all

Helforged Warpack Formation,
Heldrake Terror Pack Formation,
Cult of Destruction Formation,
Fist of the Gods Formation,
Raptor Talon Formaiton,
Terminator Annihilation Force Formation,
Favoured of the Chaos Formation,
Trinity of Blood Formation,
Chaos Spawn Units
Khorne Berzerkers,
Thousand Sons,
Plague Marines,
Noise Marines.

That's 8 different aux formations, 13 if you count the Spawn and Cults as aux formations.

8 different formations + 1 for spawn + 1 for the cults as they are actually one entry = 10 auxiliary choices.

 BloodGrin wrote:
The Faeit rubbish is for one purpose, and it has succeeded since you are discussing it.
They do not vet any rumors, they post them in order to get people to click on them and the more dire they sound the more likely someone will click.
They do not care about being right, they already get your clicks.
I can not think of one thing that Faeit or Bols got before it appeared on Dakka here or Bolter.

To be honest I get most of my news from Faeit which I then fact-check on Dakkdakka because its lay-out is just that much easier t onavigate. One click to a rumour article or search through tens of pages of forum posts, I'll take the former.

Given you have to fact check anyway, wouldn't it just be easier to go through a thread on Dakka to begin with?

No because if there are no rumours on faeit, I don't have to go through pages upon pages in order to see whether there is even something to begin with.
Forums are very prone to go on rambling even when there's nothing new to be discussed. Case in point being the discussion about true names in this very thread that spanned multiple pages. Don't get me wrong that's not necessarily a bad thing but it's definitely not quicker to sift through every day.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

via anonymous sources on Faeit 212 wrote:
WoM is hardcase like End Times books were...

Umm... the 40K campaign books have all been in hard-cases. If this one is too it's because the first Fenris book was.

That's our Natfka! wah wah wah waaaaaah

The sad thing is even with obvious 'trend spotting' guesses like these, he still can't get out of the dumps for accuracy.


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DaPino wrote:
No because if there are no rumours on faeit, I don't have to go through pages upon pages in order to see whether there is even something to begin with.

If you're going to follow a blog for rumors, follow Atia.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/

She has a good record and only posts legit stuff unlike Natfka and BOLS.

 pretre wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

via anonymous sources on Faeit 212 wrote:
WoM is hardcase like End Times books were...

Umm... the 40K campaign books have all been in hard-cases. If this one is too it's because the first Fenris book was.

That's our Natfka! wah wah wah waaaaaah

The sad thing is even with obvious 'trend spotting' guesses like these, he still can't get out of the dumps for accuracy.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

DaPino wrote:
No because if there are no rumours on faeit, I don't have to go through pages upon pages in order to see whether there is even something to begin with.

If you're going to follow a blog for rumors, follow Atia.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/

She has a good record and only posts legit stuff unlike Natfka and BOLS.

The thing is, bols and natfka have rumors up all the time, sometimes multiples in a day, it's fun to read and conjecture about things like this. Just don't start throwing money into the pyre until sad panda or atia agree.

Magnus' stats.

Shouldn't he be a demon? Aren't demon princes still a demon with an invuln save? At the very least you'd expect him to have the Mark of Tzeentch which would give him an invuln save?

Or is that not displayed on the character profile?

Not displayed on the character profile. They say he counts as a Daemon of Tzeentch, so he rerolls his 1s to invuln saves.


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"In the game, Magnus is a Lord of War choice for a Chaos Space Marines force. As you would expect, his rules are formidable indeed, with a statline to rival anything in Warhammer 40,000. He can contemptuously smash a Space Marine hero into pulp or slice a Wraithknight in half.

But it’s in the psychic phase that Magnus really comes into his own (in fact, we’re considering just changing the name of the phase to “Magnus’ phase”). The Crimson King knows no fewer than 15 powers, and is able to cast them with an ease no one else can match. He even has his very own power, Gaze of Magnus, a spell powerful enough to send a Baneblade to oblivion.

Magnus is not easy to destroy, either. As well as having 7 Wounds, and Toughness 7, his Crown grants him a respectable 4+ invulnerable save which combines with his Daemon of Tzeentch rule to grant re-rolls of ones. This can be bolstered further when included as part of a dedicated Thousand Sons Detachment (more on those later this week.)

All in, Magnus is everything you’d think a Daemon Primarch of Tzeentch would be – ie: utterly powerful and completely terrifying.

Full rules for Magnus and his Legion are included in the new Wrath of Magnus book, which you can pre-order from this Saturday."

But can he beat Smashfether?

Mastery level 15....

I thought 4 was a lot.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/23/wrath-of-magnus-the-big-guy-himself/


Ninja'd

Knows 15=/=level 15.

Skullhammer wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/23/wrath-of-magnus-the-big-guy-himself/


Ninja'd

So, the bane of all Daemons, since he isn't a GMC, does he have Eternal Warrior? Otherwise, any Force/ID will make a mockery of him.

NivlacSupreme wrote:
Mastery level 15....

I thought 4 was a lot.

Remember, this is GW. They'll probably have written the rule so that whilst he knows at least 15, half of them must be from lore of tzeentch

I mean, I'm pretty sure Fatey knows like 12-14 all by himself. He's level 4

Overall solid stats. Not making him a GMC is nice. We'll see how the rules play out but so far nothing to insane. Which makes sense. Yes, Primarchs are uber and daemon primarchs more so but they aren't actual gods. Bolters still could kill them back in the day.