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Do we know if the Relic Armor for the IW AND NL has a No Daemon Prince clause? Because that NL armor that increases cover could be devastating on a Tzeentch Prince

What do people think of allying TS with NL?
You could have a NL detachment with the -1 Ld artifact and a Heldrake Terror pack with another -1 to -3 Ld allied to Ahrimans exiles. You could spam psychic shriek on a 3+ to cast and potentially -4 to your opponants Ld. Could also give the Seer's blade to one of the sorcerors to clean up whatever is left.

Perhaps not very fluffy but is a definite MC killer.

I just noticed something odd. Hopefully, VeteranNoob or one of the more experienced members can chime in on this. I've seen the Night Lords detachment rules and the part concerning the Night Lords detachment is worded differently from its equivalent in the Thousand Sons supplement. Apologies in advance if this is a dumb question.

It says: "any detachment with the CSM faction can be from one of the nine traitor legions." As opposed to "any detachment with the CSM faction can be a Thousand Sons detachment."

Does this mean, RAW, you can only include one detachment with a legion affiliation in an army (assuming the other legions are worded like the Night Lords one)? So no Murder Talon (using the Night Lords detachment as an example) and Night Lords CAD in one army? Or no double Night Lords CAD?

I imagine the intention of the sentence is to mean that you can only take one legion affiliation per detachment, so no mixing affiliations in one detachment, but i can also imagine dudes in the LGW trying to argue the opposite.

Best,
Samii.

Ooooh, finally some news on that. That would indeed prevent the mixing of detachments.
It still applies only to a detachment, so you can have all 9 legions in various detachemtns/formations if you want/can afford, but no Black Legion Thousand Sons dual detachments.

Samii wrote:
I imagine the intention of the sentence is to mean that you can only take one legion affiliation per detachment, so no mixing affiliations in one detachment.

This is what RAW it means.

 Roknar wrote:
Ooooh, finally some news on that. That would indeed prevent the mixing of detachments.
It still applies only to a detachment, so you can have all 9 legions in various detachemtns/formations if you want/can afford, but no Black Legion Thousand Sons dual detachments.

Hi Roknar, thanks for replying so fast. I think what I meant was: can I take dual Night Lords CAD's in one army, for example, in other words is it possible to dupilcate Legion detachments (not can I mix legion affiliations in one detachment)? There could be situations where I might want one of the special detachments, World Eaters for example, and then a CAD or something to get a WE Land Raider in to transport 'zerkers and Kharn from the WE detachment. Maybe not the best example, but there would be situations where duplicate Legion detachments would be useful. Would be an odd restriction, given that there is no detachment-duplicate restrictions on Chapter Tactics for example.

Best,
Samii.

 Bulldogging wrote:

I see that the exalted sorcerer box comes with 2 swords, I was under the impression that they had to use staves. Can they use the swords?

Looks like they're purely a modeling option. They're left arms, and so they'd still have their staves in the right.

But I'm glad to see them, since that'll make it super easy to equip 30k TS sergeants with swords (presuming that FW doesn't follow the idiotic "staves only" mindset that GW gave us with this release's rules).

You can have as many detachments as you want in your army. Affiliated or otherwise. So yea, no problem at all to have two WE detachments or WE and NL. CAD or these formations based detachments or allied detachments or whatever.
Not Legion allied detachments mind you. They are all Faction: CSM and allied detachments need to be a different faction than your primary detachment. So you'd need a daemon primary or so to allow that.

shade1313 wrote:

(presuming that FW doesn't follow the idiotic "staves only" mindset that GW gave us with this release's rules).

I would actually scream

shade1313 wrote:

 Bulldogging wrote:

I see that the exalted sorcerer box comes with 2 swords, I was under the impression that they had to use staves. Can they use the swords?

Looks like they're purely a modeling option. They're left arms, and so they'd still have their staves in the right.

But I'm glad to see them, since that'll make it super easy to equip 30k TS sergeants with swords (presuming that FW doesn't follow the idiotic "staves only" mindset that GW gave us with this release's rules).

Exalted sorcerers can exchange their combi bolter for a sword. They still keep the stave.

 Roknar wrote:
Not Legion allied detachments mind you. They are all Faction: CSM and allied detachments need to be a different faction than your primary detachment. So you'd need a daemon primary or so to allow that.

Yes, thanks for clearing that up, the allied detachment thing is true too actually. Chapter Tactics doesn't have that restriction. However, the Legion traits seem waaayy better from what I've seen than anything the that SM get, so it balances out.

The seers bane could be a sword..

 mrhappyface wrote:
What do people think of allying TS with NL?
You could have a NL detachment with the -1 Ld artifact and a Heldrake Terror pack with another -1 to -3 Ld allied to Ahrimans exiles. You could spam psychic shriek on a 3+ to cast and potentially -4 to your opponants Ld. Could also give the Seer's blade to one of the sorcerors to clean up whatever is left.

Perhaps not very fluffy but is a definite MC killer.

This is a really good combo, perhaps not fluffy, but good nonetheless.

I was thinking of a similar combo between TS and WE. You give the WE Lord the Collar relic to have some anti-psyker for more control of the psychic phase. Then you bring in Berzerkerz and/or better CC units than what the TS have.

Can the night lords use the raptor talon as an auxilary or the Chaos warband since I am really considering running the Chaos warband and the raptor talon together.

I hate GW for "No Special Characters" Ruling on Alpha Legion

I WANTED TO USE ARKOS THE FAITHLESS GODDAMMIT!!!

 commander dante wrote:
I hate GW for "No Special Characters" Ruling on Alpha Legion

I WANTED TO USE ARKOS THE FAITHLESS GODDAMMIT!!!

Well since Arkos is FW, you probably needed opponent/TO permission to use him anyway. In my area, no one would have an issue with you using Arkos in an Alpha Legion detachment.

 commander dante wrote:
I hate GW for "No Special Characters" Ruling on Alpha Legion

I WANTED TO USE ARKOS THE FAITHLESS GODDAMMIT!!!

That would be a FW ruling anyway. But they've been pretty slow on updating their 40k stuff lately, so maybe try harassing them via email until you get a ruling.

Requizen wrote:

 commander dante wrote:
I hate GW for "No Special Characters" Ruling on Alpha Legion

I WANTED TO USE ARKOS THE FAITHLESS GODDAMMIT!!!

That would be a FW ruling anyway. But they've been pretty slow on updating their 40k stuff lately, so maybe try harassing them via email until you get a ruling.

Have to wait for Official Release First...

 fearzffs wrote:
Can the night lords use the raptor talon as an auxilary or the Chaos warband since I am really considering running the Chaos warband and the raptor talon together.

Both are a core choice for NL so go right ahead.

@VeteranNoob (if you're not sick of this thread yet ): Is the fortification formation an actual formation or only an auxiliary choice?

Sooooo looking forward to starting Magnus tonight...

 nintura wrote:
Sooooo looking forward to starting Magnus tonight...

Please no spoilers in this thread.

 mrhappyface wrote:

 nintura wrote:
Sooooo looking forward to starting Magnus tonight...

Please no spoilers in this thread.

Pretty sure he's talking about painting the model.

 andysonic1 wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:

 nintura wrote:
Sooooo looking forward to starting Magnus tonight...

Please no spoilers in this thread.

Pretty sure he's talking about painting the model.

Sorry, just a bit jumpy about spoilers.

 mrhappyface wrote:

 nintura wrote:
Sooooo looking forward to starting Magnus tonight...

Please no spoilers in this thread.

Im quite curious as to what you're talking about o.O

 nintura wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:

 nintura wrote:
Sooooo looking forward to starting Magnus tonight...

Please no spoilers in this thread.

Im quite curious as to what you're talking about o.O

I thought you were talking about the WoM fluff.

Anything new / interesting in the fluff?

 Mr Morden wrote:
Anything new / interesting in the fluff?

No! No fluff spoilers in this thread!

 mrhappyface wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Anything new / interesting in the fluff?

No! No fluff spoilers in this thread!

Or people can post spoilers and just use the spoiler tag.

Well there is this one part where....

Any of you post one god damn spoiler in this thread...