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The mk 3 thousand sons look pretty generic though, compared to the art which gives them more intricate helmets and armor. I always thought they looked better in mk II armor as well...they never struck me as being the legion to wade around in exclusively mk 3 armor.

All the better to sell FW upgrade kits, I can see why they let GW make these generic Mk IIIs.

 Accolade wrote:
I like that it keeps the marines look less like caricatures of their particular themes. Space Wolves are particularly egregious with this in 40k, saturated head-to-toe in wolves.

What? You don't like these?


Or these?


Imagine if we could have a werewolf Space Wolf dude with wolf claws riding a space wolf? Wouldn't that be awesome?

The wolf bashing is getting old, those minis are fine.

wait for your blood thirsty vamp marine riders on bat mounts

those minis are fine.

Is this a joke? They look ridiculous. The wolf looks like a giant chipmunk, riding with two lightning claws, the musculature, etc. The composition, the overdetailing on the wulfen, it's bad mini making I'd have expected in the early 90s.

I like them, I guess I have bad tastes in art :|

I guess these are the shield for the custodes, a bit too ornate for my tastes but I suppose the custodes have to be pretty pimped out.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

Spoiler:

 Accolade wrote:
I like that it keeps the marines look less like caricatures of their particular themes. Space Wolves are particularly egregious with this in 40k, saturated head-to-toe in wolves.

What? You don't like these?


Or these?

Imagine if we could have a werewolf Space Wolf dude with wolf claws riding a space wolf? Wouldn't that be awesome?

God, those minis are dire. Some of the worst offenders to GW's "there's a theme!!" concept.

Now, Custodes I'll give a pass on, as their whole shtick is that they're ornate as all get-out.

 aracersss wrote:
wait for your blood thirsty vamp marine riders on bat mounts

Like Nite Lawds?

No silliness there!

why so serious?

 RedFox wrote:
The wolf bashing is getting old, those minis are fine.

You are entitled to your own (wrong ) opinion.

 pretre wrote:
Source?

Someone on another website I frequent, from what they saw from the new WD.

TommyBs wrote:
I'm surprised they released Ahriman as part of this box set and not as part of the forgeworld Character Series - seems quite weird to me. Unless they thought this game needed an extra hook on top of the custodes and SoS.

The custodes leader also looks like he's been designed to look like Valdor who was obviously also there, though they haven't said he is. So maybe he will be character series (I hope!)

I think we can expect at least one more version of Ahriman in the HH character series. I know there are plans for multiple versions of a number of the key players, and I'd rate Ahriman as up there.


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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
For lack of a better word, deciding what I want to get. I reallyrics want BaC for the better model count(and the HQs), but if I get BoP, I get the iconic Imperial Fists Mk III armor as well as the Custodes. I could sell off the Sisters of Silence and make a decent amount of my money back. I could then just get parted out HQs from BaC and several sets of Mk IV.

Decisions decisions.

Buy one of each (better get onto Calth doublequick if you want one!) and then sell/swap out what you don't want for additional models that you will want. Win.

Final fifth pose selected for Wulfen....The Flashdance.




Other options that were bandied about...

Wulfen Side-Slash Style



Wulfen Perfect Defence.



Wulfen admiring Power Claw.



The model is everything a badass werewulf is not.

Jazz hands!



Yeah, there are certain SW miniatures that are NOT welcome in my 40k Space Wolves army.

That said, I'm still tempted to get the stupid Wulfen box, because there are some very nifty bits in there. Same for Grimnarclaus, there are some nice bits for conversions on that idiotic sled, but Logan in my army is on foot and bashing heads in, face to face.

Geigor, without the head and with a sensible helmet to keep his head from being turned into a canoe by any given shot that comes his way, will be a go for my 40k Wolves.

Forgeworld's Leman Russ model and Black Library's 2nd book in the Primarch series will accompany BoP's release in addition to the GW products. And some FW upgrade kits+BoP bundles are very likely.

Not sure if they moved the preorder date forward but the Primarch book's LE is already available to order

http://www.blacklibrary.com/Home/Leman-russ-LE-page.html

You know, the GW creative staff are just Fing with us. There has got to be a running bet for the most ridiculous thing that they can get into production and on the shelves, and the winner gets to eat and drink for free or something like that.

 RedFox wrote:
The wolf bashing is getting old, those minis are fine.

Opinion is in the eye of the beholder, Bring in Grimnars Santaboat!

Warhams-77 wrote:
Forgeworld's Leman Russ model and Black Library's 2nd book in the Primarch series will accompany BoP's release in addition to the GW products. And some FW upgrade kits+BoP bundles are very likely.

Not sure if they moved the preorder date forward but the Primarch book's LE is already available to order

http://www.blacklibrary.com/Home/Leman-russ-LE-page.html

Is it wrong that seeing Russ with Blonde hair and that eye makeup made me picture some weird He-man / Jem and the Holograms fusion? Way to much eye makeup...makes him look cheap... Now Fulgrim that guy could wear guy-liner.

Speaking of books, which HH novels go with the Prospero box? Obviously Prospero Burns. Any others?

And which - if any - go with Betrayal at Calth?

A Thousand Sons also goes with it, which IMHO is a million times better than Prospero Burns.

Calth has the Unburdened, the Honoured (both deal with the main characters of the boardgame) and the Mark of Calth, an anthology novel detailing the underground war.

Grotorderly also mentioned one novel to come with BoP, but if it will be a tie-in is unclear.

Thanks guys. It turns out I already have ATS and PB. Bought them from Amazon at the end of 2011 but never got around to reading them. I definitely don't have the Calth ones, though - any good?

Any similarity with Russ is obviously pure coincidence...

Ehhhh, of the two tie-in novels I've only read one of them and it didn't leave a lasting impression on me.

I do recommend the Mark of Calth though, it's an anthology novel, so a load of different authors almost always means that there's bound to be something good in there.

Fair call, Brook. I'll add it in to my next Book Depository order.

 Azazelx wrote:
Fair call, Brook. I'll add it in to my next Book Depository order.

If audio dramas are your thing, there's also Censure.

 ScarletRose wrote:

The mk 3 thousand sons look pretty generic though, compared to the art which gives them more intricate helmets and armor. I always thought they looked better in mk II armor as well...they never struck me as being the legion to wade around in exclusively mk 3 armor.

All the better to sell FW upgrade kits, I can see why they let GW make these generic Mk IIIs.

Indeed, bless the generic armors! I sure wouldn't be considering doing Iron Warriors / Hands with this box if I had to remove TS / SW insignia from every single armour. I'll gladly pay for some good looking HH shoulderpads to make some of them look special and I'm guessing I'm not alone in this.

 Azazelx wrote:
Thanks guys. It turns out I already have ATS and PB. Bought them from Amazon at the end of 2011 but never got around to reading them. I definitely don't have the Calth ones, though - any good?

 BrookM wrote:
Ehhhh, of the two tie-in novels I've only read one of them and it didn't leave a lasting impression on me.

I do recommend the Mark of Calth though, it's an anthology novel, so a load of different authors almost always means that there's bound to be something good in there.

The two tie-in "novels" to BaC, The Honoured and The Unburdened should be relatively cheap now as they're in paperback, they're both above decent reads - if you read one it's worth reading the other as they do compliment each other nicely but you're not really missing a huge amount if they're skipped.

Agree with Brook though, for an anthology Mark of Calth is very good. I usually find the anthologies to be hit and miss but Calth was consistently decent.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Accolade wrote:
I like that it keeps the marines look less like caricatures of their particular themes. Space Wolves are particularly egregious with this in 40k, saturated head-to-toe in wolves.

What? You don't like these?


Or these?


Imagine if we could have a werewolf Space Wolf dude with wolf claws riding a space wolf? Wouldn't that be awesome?

Personally Canis Wolfborn is the Miniature that got me into Space Wolves. I never understood the bashing people do of what other people like. For me I like my Space wolves on thunderwolves or turned into werewolves, for others not so much. I personally have no interest in Blood angels or Dark angels, but I can see why people like them, and I don't go shame them for too many robes or winged blood drops on their models.This hobby is about getting together with friends or meeting new people. Not slamming things other people like just because you don't. Everybody has a opinion, and that is what message boards are for. But you can say you do not like something without insulting the people who do.