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 BrookM wrote:

Thank you. Now it looks like they are ALL embiggened.

Anybody got a Space Marine from the 3E boxed set to compare with?

 jah-joshua wrote:

 Zywus wrote:
SoS are taller than Marines?

I thought GW had managed to finally halt the scale creep somewhat seeing the genestealer cultists. That's a shame :(

nope, the scale creep is in full effect...
the Tartaros Termies are huge, as are the Custodes...

jah

Well custodes are supposed to tower marines like marines humans,

That Sister of Silence look ridiculously out of scale...

...dammit GW!!!

tneva82 wrote:

 jah-joshua wrote:

 Zywus wrote:
SoS are taller than Marines?

I thought GW had managed to finally halt the scale creep somewhat seeing the genestealer cultists. That's a shame :(

nope, the scale creep is in full effect...
the Tartaros Termies are huge, as are the Custodes...

jah

Well custodes are supposed to tower marines like marines humans,

Termies and Custodes are supposed to be larger than regular marines (although I think they went overboard on the custodes).

The SoS are largely un-augmented humans, so there's no reason they should be larger than a regular guardsmen. Even the plastic Cadians are grossly oversized and they'll be larger than those. Had the SoS been similar in bulk to a cultist (Chaos or Genestealer variant) it would have been a good fit.

It seems GW can't realise that for some things to look big and imposing, not everything can constantly get bigger and bigger. They're like gakky youtube channels who's every video is the "funnyest ever !!!11!" or "scariest ever !!!!"

Well, except for the Genestealer Cult and Mechanicus. Those were awesome models in almost every way.

 Zywus wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 jah-joshua wrote:

 Zywus wrote:
SoS are taller than Marines?

I thought GW had managed to finally halt the scale creep somewhat seeing the genestealer cultists. That's a shame :(

nope, the scale creep is in full effect...
the Tartaros Termies are huge, as are the Custodes...

jah

Well custodes are supposed to tower marines like marines humans,

Termies and Custodes are supposed to be larger than regular marines (although I think they went overboard on the custodes).

The SoS are largely un-augmented humans, so there's no reason they should be larger than a regular guardsmen. Even the plastic Cadians are grossly oversized and they'll be larger than those. Had the SoS been similar in bulk to a cultist (Chaos or Genestealer variant) it would have been a good fit.

It seems GW can't realise that for some things to look big and imposing, not everything can constantly get bigger and bigger. They're like gakky youtube channels who's every video is the "funnyest ever !!!11!" or "scariest ever !!!!"

Well, except for the Genestealer Cult and Mechanicus. Those were awesome models in almost every way.

The fact that their bigger overall allows them to be relatively slight in stature(If you've seen the sprew you realize that their quite thin compared to marines.) without making them malifaux fragile to work with. It also makes them quite a bit easier to paint. Sometimes practicality trumps fluff.

Bigger is not better. SoS should have been the size of metal SoB, simple as that.

ERJAK wrote:

 Zywus wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 jah-joshua wrote:

 Zywus wrote:
SoS are taller than Marines?

I thought GW had managed to finally halt the scale creep somewhat seeing the genestealer cultists. That's a shame :(

nope, the scale creep is in full effect...
the Tartaros Termies are huge, as are the Custodes...

jah

Well custodes are supposed to tower marines like marines humans,

Termies and Custodes are supposed to be larger than regular marines (although I think they went overboard on the custodes).

The SoS are largely un-augmented humans, so there's no reason they should be larger than a regular guardsmen. Even the plastic Cadians are grossly oversized and they'll be larger than those. Had the SoS been similar in bulk to a cultist (Chaos or Genestealer variant) it would have been a good fit.

It seems GW can't realise that for some things to look big and imposing, not everything can constantly get bigger and bigger. They're like gakky youtube channels who's every video is the "funnyest ever !!!11!" or "scariest ever !!!!"

Well, except for the Genestealer Cult and Mechanicus. Those were awesome models in almost every way.

The fact that their bigger overall allows them to be relatively slight in stature(If you've seen the sprew you realize that their quite thin compared to marines.) without making them malifaux fragile to work with. It also makes them quite a bit easier to paint. Sometimes practicality trumps fluff.

I don't buy that really. They could have been smaller, retained the same proportions ad still not been too fragile. The Dark Eldar wyches are proof of that.

The SoS are indeed better proportioned than marines and with thinner limbs, but there's no reason why they need to be so tall.

 Alpharius wrote:
That Sister of Silence look ridiculously out of scale...

...dammit GW!!!

They look perfectly in scale with AoS tho, hint hint.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Having not popped open my Prospero yet, can anyone speak to the posing and variety the MK3's can be built with? Anything on par to the current Tactical kit with hands holding clips, one-handed bolters, etc...?

It depends how comfortable you are with a knife. One-handed bolters should be simple, exen better if you are willing to cut the arms above the elbow and reposition them. Holding clips? Not easily done.

I think there are only two pairs of arms that are not in *holds bolter intensely* poses.

That said, the quality is mouth watering, and should be fully interchangeable with more exciting arms from other kits.


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The SOS look perfectly in scale to me. I don't get where everyone else gets the idea that they are unaugmented humans. The artwork portrays them as staggeringly tall, statuesque, perhaps even dreamy, killing machines, and we all know the Emperor likes to go full Tim Allen on his killing machines.

Looking at the few pieces of art that have SoS in position next to Custodes etc in a way to determine scale I have to agree with bobtheinquisitor. There's a good pick of SoS standing next to a custode and The Big E himself and they come up to right around the custodes chin, which is consistent with the minis.

tneva82 wrote:

 jah-joshua wrote:

 Zywus wrote:
SoS are taller than Marines?

I thought GW had managed to finally halt the scale creep somewhat seeing the genestealer cultists. That's a shame :(

nope, the scale creep is in full effect...
the Tartaros Termies are huge, as are the Custodes...

jah

Well custodes are supposed to tower marines like marines humans,

yes, i'm well aware of the Custodes being bigger than Marines...
i actually think that they did a great job on the models, and their size...
i'm a big fan of those huge dudes

the point, which you edited out, is that pretty much everything IS getting bigger, which i like, personally...
i would not like to have seen the minis go in the other direction, like Wyrd's Malifaux plastics (those things are horrible to work with, which is a shame, as some of the designs are amazing)...
all of the filigree on the Custodes and SoS minis is very crisp, thanks to their size...
for people who don't like the scale creep, the feeling is not mutual

cheers
jah

The sisters of silence are really about the same height as the skitarii guys. The top knot hair does make them look taller. I changed the heads with statuesque pulp heads and put them on 30mm bases instead of 32mm. Here is some shots with a ranger, a marine, and a space crusade terminator...

 Smokestack wrote:
The sisters of silence are really about the same height as the skitarii guys. The top knot hair does make them look taller. I changed the heads with statuesque pulp heads and put them on 30mm bases instead of 32mm. Here is some shots with a ranger, a marine, and a space crusade terminator...

Interesting note: the legs of the SoS and the Skitarii seem to be in roughly the same pose, so it'd be hard to make the "the pose makes them look taller/shorter" argument here. It's obvious that the models as a whole are getting larger (which I think is a good thing from a hobby perspective), but it isn't a new uniform scale. Models that a supposed to be larger (Space Marines, Custodes, Chaos Warrios, Stormcast Eternals) are still larger than some of the other new models (Genestealer hybrids, Skitarii, etc.).

The newer models also seem better proportioned. Compare a Neophyte to a Cadian or Catachan. The detail, posing and proportions are all so much better. Infor one welcome our new slightly taller plastic overlords.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Yeah, I think his claw is the claw Bjorn gets to replace the arm he loses on Prospero.

Which is sort of cool. Honestly, if Bjorn gets stats in Inferno, I hinkle Geigor's model will probably be capable of representing him. That or Geigor will get stats in Inferno in addition to Bjorn.

 Alpharius wrote:
That Sister of Silence look ridiculously out of scale...

...dammit GW!!!

They are perfectly in scale with my raging heroes stuff so i am ok with it, is see they are also in line with the prodos space crusade mini's
Should check later how much difference there is with the Kingdom death figures.

Some more scale shots. Reaper, Age of Sigmar, Kingdom Death, Norsgard, Raging Heroes and Malifaux. The Kingdom Death stuff (other than 20 year savior) is huge...

Has anyone (sorry if I missed it) photo compared sigmarines and custodes? I was thinking sigmarines could make some nice custodes and vice versa.

 Alpharius wrote:
That Sister of Silence look ridiculously out of scale...

...dammit GW!!!

being the same height as a Skitarii is a bad thing???
tall imposing women, seems pretty appropriate

the sculpts are really nice, too...
have you had the sprues in hand yet, maybe down at your local shop???
that may change your mind
or not...

cheers
jah

Here ya go

couple more

Many thanks for the sigmarine shots

KBA on Bolter and Chainsword did a cool Custodes/Stormcast kitbash:

 ImAGeek wrote:
KBA on Bolter and Chainsword did a cool Custodes/Stormcast kitbash:

That's awesome! I am going to try to do something similar with some of Stormcasts I have. Make myself a few more Custodes.

Sigmarines certainly seem a good way to use the spare arms and make an alternate squad. Just whack the shields on them so they need less body detailing, and the Guardian Spears on the actual Custodes models.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Sigmarines certainly seem a good way to use the spare arms and make an alternate squad. Just whack the shields on them so they need less body detailing, and the Guardian Spears on the actual Custodes models.

Pretty much. Some liberal use of the additional bits on the Custodes sprues. Use the extra chest piece in place of the Stormcast chest piece, add in some stuff like the Blood Angels wing decorations to the pauldraons, and you are set. The helmet tassels on the heads of the Stormcasts actually fit the Custodes aesthetic well, but the faces don't. I really detest helmetless characters, so I don't know what I am going to do for a better helmet. Green stuff might need to come to the rescue. An Eldar helmet might be a possibility as well. I might even just make a cast of one of the heads for this. I am going to cut off the vents from a SM power pack and attach them to the back of the armor to recreate something similar to the Custodes's armor vents.

I see Scibor Miniatures has faux Custodes heads, they might be an option.

You could always riff on this art, too:

Here at GW we've decided to hell with scale. This is great news...

What's the point of having a scale if your not going to stick to it?

I don't understant the obsession with scale. Different people are different hights and have different proportions. Hell, as mentioned previously, the SoS are described as being taller than the average person, and custodes being near primarch sized.

But the SoS aren't actually taller... ?