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This one ended nicely though - beating some pundits' expectations by over $300K!

And it did this while running and ending at almost the same time as Mythic Pantheon and having to endure the launch of Kingdom Death Monster 1.5 as well.

Now I just anxiously await to see what the PM Upgrade Tax will be...
   
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I decided to pass on this even though I was a Mine Cart (plus !!) backer the first time around. Too many other new KS games and XMas all at the same time.

Aside from not having the first fulfilled yet, I just don't play it enough and we have yet to venture into much of the extra content that has been delivered. I'll just get the FoFo core set and a few add-ons once it hits retail. I didn't need the mass of stuff and, for me, some of the models just weren't that compelling compared to the Mythic Battles miniatures. YMMV, of course.



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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Have they mentioned the size of the dragon? Will it be HIPS?

I just discovered this exists, and wonder how they compare.


There's also a restic Wrath of Kings Asian-style dragon. But if the dragon's your main thing you may as well just grab that Malifaux one now, at a retail discount and have it in hand well and truly before 2018/2019

   
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 Azazelx wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Have they mentioned the size of the dragon? Will it be HIPS?

I just discovered this exists, and wonder how they compare.


There's also a restic Wrath of Kings Asian-style dragon. But if the dragon's your main thing you may as well just grab that Malifaux one now, at a retail discount and have it in hand well and truly before 2018/2019


I have the Wrath of Kings dragon. It's very nice, but it has a saddle and the sculptor copied the artist's style a little more closely than I would have liked, so isn't entirely useful as an HQ hero in its own right. I still haven't finished converting the rider to my satisfaction. I've put the Malifaux dragon on my wishlist, and will acquire him one way or another by the time my hobby ADD circles back to fantasy. (I was underwhelmed by Malifaux's Dawn Serpent mini, though.) Forbidden Fortress has so many other things I want, such as the Three Storms, the stone lions, and some of the monsters, that I need to really think about where and when to jump in.

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 Azazelx wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Have they mentioned the size of the dragon? Will it be HIPS?

I just discovered this exists, and wonder how they compare.


There's also a restic Wrath of Kings Asian-style dragon. But if the dragon's your main thing you may as well just grab that Malifaux one now, at a retail discount and have it in hand well and truly before 2018/2019

Or get the clearance Arcane Legions Dragons (2 preprinted ones) from Miniaturemarket.com for $15 and base them on flying stands.
http://www.miniaturemarket.com/wls018.html
I did for my Asian themed army today n KOW.


LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13

I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 
   
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Meanwhile...

Update #24

Nov 30 2016
Congratulations Everyone on a very Successful Kickstarter!

Greetings Fortress Fans!

Well, how exciting was that?! Today brings an end to the Shadows of Brimstone: Forbidden Fortress Kickstarter Campaign and it was a thrilling ride as we blew through some exciting Stretch Goals in the last few hours!

Congratulations Everyone on a very Successful Kickstarter!



Kickstarters are strange and wonderful things, but they are also all-encompassing and running one means that life as you knew it is over for about a month. The moment you wake up, from any brief slumber you can steal, you hit refresh on your phone and squint at the numbers to see where it's at - is everything okay?!? Did we unlock a Stretch Goal?!? What is being said in the Comments? What can we do today to help the project be successful? It can be exhausting. At the same time, it is an insane burst of progress - every few days, new illustrations are coming in from in-house and freelance illustrators! New painted minis! New Map Tiles! And, we are constantly creating new promo images and advertisements, so that generates a huge amount of imagery surrounding the game. As we answer questions in comments and write info in updates, it solidifies details and fleshes out concepts. With the ebb and flow of the comments and messages, it becomes apparent what excites the fans most, what they desire. This can shape our plans, and really get us pumped about designs, when we know that people are excited about them, too!

It's an exciting and dramatic period of time, filled with highs and lows and will not soon be forgotten. Thank you all for joining us on this journey, and for helping to make this a very successful Kickstarter Campaign!


'Battle with a Living Statue!' by Master Illustrator, Ben Wootten.


Once again, a wonderful community was formed over the course of this Kickstarter Campaign and I hope that it continues here in the comments section, on Board Game Geek, on Facebook (if you have not already, be sure to check out the unofficial Shadows of Brimstone Community Group), and in other forums.


Our Sculptor, Dan, is hard at work on the Gastral Tyrant model as we speak!

We have not slept much in the last month, so we need to go pass out now and then resume development tomorrow on Forbidden Fortress! We will be making regular status updates about once a month, as well as additional updates for any breaking news. In the meantime, congratulations once again on a very successful KS campaign and Happy Gaming!

Cheers,

Scott and Jason


   
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If anyone *really* wishes they'd gotten in on this campaign and missed out, FFP is offering late backer entries on their web store;

$125 for a Sumo (plus shipping)
$350 for a Shogun (plus shipping)

Not that I'm expecting a rush of traffic their way, but I thought I'd throw it out there in case someone wanted to take advantage of the opportunity.

It also seems to lend credence to the idea that the upgrade cost in the pledge manager probably won't be too horrific.
   
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 Forar wrote:
If anyone *really* wishes they'd gotten in on this campaign and missed out, FFP is offering late backer entries on their web store;

$125 for a Sumo (plus shipping)
$350 for a Shogun (plus shipping)

Not that I'm expecting a rush of traffic their way, but I thought I'd throw it out there in case someone wanted to take advantage of the opportunity.

It also seems to lend credence to the idea that the upgrade cost in the pledge manager probably won't be too horrific.


Had they at least delivered more then the two base boxes of the original KS in what... 3 or 4 years... I would have jumped all over this with both feet. Good luck to all who have pledged, the game is amazing, but not worth waiting over 4 years for amazing.

A would like to say good luck to you all, and congratz on the investment on the game system. It is interesting, and you can have a lot of fun with it.



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 Grot 6 wrote:
 Forar wrote:
If anyone *really* wishes they'd gotten in on this campaign and missed out, FFP is offering late backer entries on their web store;

$125 for a Sumo (plus shipping)
$350 for a Shogun (plus shipping)

Not that I'm expecting a rush of traffic their way, but I thought I'd throw it out there in case someone wanted to take advantage of the opportunity.

It also seems to lend credence to the idea that the upgrade cost in the pledge manager probably won't be too horrific.


Had they at least delivered more then the two base boxes of the original KS in what... 3 or 4 years... I would have jumped all over this with both feet. Good luck to all who have pledged, the game is amazing, but not worth waiting over 4 years for amazing.


But...they actually did deliver more than that!

Admittedly, you had to pay for the "1.5 Wave Shipping" to get it, but they did!
   
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Well, and... I appreciate how obnoxious it must be to wait on Minecart Wave 2 as an original backer, but let me tell you, its worse to have discovered this amazing system a month ago, and now have to buy it all for triple what you guys paid. :-p

Even with a delay, the game is amazing and the Shogun was an easy, easy pledge for me by the time it was clear it would, at least hit the Forest Otherworld. Hell, on the merits of the Brimstone game system I had an easier time backing it than Mythic Battles (an awesome looking, but under-proven system at the time), or Kingdom Death (awesome, if you can spare the kidney to finance it). I ultimately backed all three, but Forbidden Fortress is the only one i'm CERTAIN i'll get my money's worth out of, enjoyment-wise.

11527pts Total (7400pts painted)

4980pts Total (4980pts painted)

3730 Total (210pts painted) 
   
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To clarify; the cores were shipped around 1 year after the campaign, it has been just over 3 years since the campaign ended.

Wave 2 will allegedly begin shipping in late December or early January, they're just waiting on delivery of the rest of the stuff that they finished months ago.

Unlike some campaigns that say 'we're totally delivering sooooon!' (Robotech Tactics, I'm looking at you donkey caves), we know that product actually exists. As much as some backers might hate things being at retail before they're in hand, at least we know they're actually finishing things. Gencon 2015 showed off a ton of work, 2016 even moreso. Wave 1.5 was a giant pile of product.

And when questioned about the timeline, FFP flat out said that this campaign's delivery estimate included the stretch goals, and this campaign was much smaller in scope (1 core and 3 otherworlds versus 2 cores, 4 otherworlds, 6 mission packs, and considerably more enemy groups).

I mean, things happen, I'm not expecting to be opening my backer box on March 1st 2018, but while I can understand some skepticism, I find it difficult to reconcile every step closer being a step further back.

Maybe this should've waited until after wave 2 delivered. *Deity* knows everyone must be tired of talking about it.
   
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Well, not everyone!

Still, I'm really quite OK with how FFP has handled just about everything, given all that has gone on!
   
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Seriously, Forar. People are allowed to be pissed off that their second wave worth of stuff is (still coming) literally years later than initially promised. Especially when FFP has decided to go back to the well before completing their obligations for the first campaign (and just a few weeks before Christmas/over Black Friday to boot!)

Just because Kevin and RRT are fething useless doesn't mean that you need to jump on everyone who doesn't think that the sun shines out of Flying Frog's backsides. Using one of the worst and most incompetent/dishonest KS in history isn't exactly a good comparison. better than RRT? No gak. There aren't that many who aren't - especially on this scale. You may as well start defending them by saying "well, at least they aren't John Wayne Gacy!"

I do like you mate, but please ease up on the overly-aggressive water-carrying for them. It's a bit much. They don't need to be defended so constantly and aggressively against every criticism no matter how slight/major or well/undeserved.

   
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I'm frustrated with people lumping projects that are heavily delayed (and there is no argument that this one is heavily delayed) in with projects that are clusterfeths.

"3 or 4 years late" is a pithy way of ignoring the fact that the core boxes did start shipping within the estimate of a year, and while the 2 years since have indeed been a lengthy wait, watching people grind their teeth every time FFP does anything but promise to be moving the heavens and earth to deliver wave 2 is getting about as old as our pledge manager choices (lawl).

I'm not demanding anyone be *happy*, but some fething recognition where progress has been made shouldn't be too much to ask. People will go on at length about the vast betrayals that FFP has acted upon them, ignoring that *this gak exists*! It actually fething exists! It will hopefully start arriving on doorsteps in a period measured in months or even weeks, but still it's 'omg they didn't delivery wave 2 what has it been like a decade?'

If people are that unhappy, ask for a refund! Some people did early in the Forbidden Fortress campaign, and FFP jumped to help them out. If it's not worth asking for a refund over, why all the angst a month or three from the end of the tunnel?

Edit: and to note, all I said was that if someone wanted in on a late pledge, they could get one, and Grot jumped in to comment how disappointed they were. I'm not going to seek pardon for exchanging thoughts on the matter.

Should FFP have been a LOT more vocal a LOT earlier about the extended time this would take? YES! Are they perfect? NO! Should they have waited a year before launching this campaign once Wave 2 delivered and just shift the target to 2019 instead? MAYBE!

But sheesh, it is exasperating to be like 5 or 10 percent from the end line and have people focus on nothing but the negative. 'it's laaaate! Why is stuff at retaaaaail!? Why are you launching a new campaign even after you've explained like four times whyyyyyy!?'

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Still waiting...

On both of them.

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Has there been any word from the Frog on when the PM for this one will go live?
   
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 Alpharius wrote:
Has there been any word from the Frog on when the PM for this one will go live?


Funny you should ask!

Read on for the (kinda) answer!

Update #26

Apr 7 2017

Update on Development - New Minis, Illustrations, and more!

Hello Fortress Fans!

Time for another progress report. Lots of work being done on all fronts - character and enemy design, miniature sculpting, illustration, game boards, graphic design and layouts, etc. We just attended the GAMA Trade Show in Las Vegas. While it was too soon to show off any Forbidden Fortress stuff to retailers or distributors (it won't be out until next year!), we talked to many people who are very excited about the game! Here's the scoop on what we've been working on...


The Hero portrait for the Kickstarter-exclusive Daimyo Hero Class!


The Hero portrait for the male Sorcerer!

Miniatures

Much of the work on miniatures has been finalizing figures for actual production - we showed off many sculpts during the Kickstarter campaign, but they still need a lot of work before they can go to manufacturing. Each model must be cut into separate pieces that will allow it to be cast in plastic. We need to remove any undercuts and finalize all of the details of each figure. This involves a lot of revisions and working back and forth with the miniature factory in China. We are excited to let you know that this process is underway for ALL of the models of the Forbidden Fortress Core Set and some of the figures for the Temple of Shadows Expansion! We have also been working on some new sculpts for the game. Check out a first look at some of the new enemy miniature sculpts...


An early favorite during the Kickstarter, the Thunder Warriors are powerful spirits that ride across the sky on lightning! The set includes three Large-sized miniatures on 40mm bases.


Here is a closer look at the Thunder Warrior model.


Komuso Summoners are part of the Court of the Fallen Shogun. They play their flutes to summon wicked spirits to fight the Heroes or enhance other enemies!


Here is a closer look at the Komuso Summoner model.

https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/016/178/891/185e1bd12683e76d5cb4170c518b6c08_original.jpg?w=639&fit=max&v=1491616722&auto=format&q=92&s=ad62e2e6eb9eddbc2cb99cd956e519b2

The brutal Gastral Tyrant is an XL-sized creature from the Belly of the Beast! It hunts for prey, collecting intruders to feed to its nested eggs.


Polish artist, Mariusz Gandzel, illustrates the deadly Gastral Tyrant.


Flying Frog's own Brian Snoddy illustrated a Samurai slashing through Acidic Tentacles!

For those wondering about the Pledge Manager, we are planning to launch it sometime in the Fall - to get the most up to date address info from Backers before shipping in early 2018. That's all for now.

Cheers,
Scott and Jason
   
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I wonder if 7 Demon Bags are included....

Looks good, though, no matter if they drop the ball on communication.



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