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My wife and I saw it earlier today. We both really enjoyed it.
I'm more of a Marvel movie fan, and haven't really liked anything DC since Batman Begins, but WW is excellent. Not without its flaws (the end fight isn't as good as earlier sequences) and there are Marvel-esque problems with the villain (which is to say, the movie focuses on the protagonists to the detriment of the antagonists).
I went to see it today with my wife, two daughters, and my mom and we all had a great time.
Some of the action was a little too intense for my five and a half year old, but she was okay. My wife like it, my mom and I absolutely loved it, and my eight year old daughter like it too, but it was a little too long for her and she started to get a little bored.
It's beyond a doubt the best DC movie and one of the better superhero movies that's come out in a while.
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Alpharius wrote: I haven't seen it yet, but plan on it tomorrow night, so in anticipation of all that - inconsistent with her BvS depiction in what way?
I mean in terms of her powers. She displays a few that would have been extremely useful against Doomsday.
Alpharius wrote: I haven't seen it yet, but plan on it tomorrow night, so in anticipation of all that - inconsistent with her BvS depiction in what way?
I mean in terms of her powers. She displays a few that would have been extremely useful against Doomsday.
Those powers may have atrophied since her decision to champion love over murderous violence. It's not like she needed her Big Bang attacks against the squishy humans she's dealt with the last century.
I just rewatched the fight in BVS and she does do "the wrist thing". She actually opens with it. It just wasn't as effective vs Doomsday for whatever reason - I assume because it was meant to deal with Ares, vs an alien being. She even comments that Doomsday seems to feed off energy.
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I just rewatched the fight in BVS and she does do "the wrist thing". She actually opens with it. It just wasn't as effective vs Doomsday for whatever reason - I assume because it was meant to deal with Ares, vs an alien being. She even comments that Doomsday seems to feed off energy.
Ah. Thank you for clearing that up with your astute observation. Sorry you had to rewatch BVS to glean it, but if it helps you move past the suffering know that your sacrifice did save many others from having to face that ordeal.
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Ending seemed a bit drawn out but that seems to be the trend with most super hero movies who for some reason have to fight and kill their arch rival in the first movie.
I'm not sure why they can't keep an arch enemy around in the films when it works in the comics and the animated series. Hollywood always wants to have a (sometimes swift) end to the supervillains when a huge part of what makes the superheroes is that they able to show mercy to even the worst of enemies and let inner good triumph yet hollywood wants them filled with burning rage that it requires the death of their arch to be justice, which in the comic world is not true. ::Shrug:: Apart from that point which it shares with pretty much every comic film of late I thought it was really well done and Gal Gadot absolutely nails her role
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Saw it on the weekend with my wife & a buch of our friends. It was good! Not, knock-your-socks-off amazing, but a proper, solid Superhero movie that I (personally) found to be the best one in the DCU so far, by a not inconsiderable margin.
Not to really add too much, but it's Ares God of War not Aries.
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You must admit, having the main villain turn out to be a sheep would have been the ultimate twist.
Though yeah, they really should have gone with something different for Ares after he transformed. A different actor or CG giant, an all-concealing helmet, something. David Thewlis has a lot of talents, being physically intimidating isn't one of them.
Really liked this movie, as someone who was lukewarm at best on the previous DC movies. It feels like the sort of tone the previous ones were trying for, if that makes sense?
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Pendix wrote: Saw it on the weekend with my wife & a buch of our friends. It was good! Not, knock-your-socks-off amazing, but a proper, solid Superhero movie that I (personally) found to be the best one in the DCU so far, by a not inconsiderable margin.
Saw it last night with my wife and feel the same. It was a really enjoyable movie, not perfect but I wasn't looking for perfection. For a DCU movie it was fething amazing.
Though, I had this question, sorry if its been discussed already, I've only skimmed the thread:
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If Ares' machinations were the cause of WWI, and he is "dead" at the end of the movie, how does WWII happen? Is that just the "darkness" that exists within mankind or is Ares not really vanquished?
The character you mention did not actually start the war. He just provided ideas to make it worse. His line of reasoning was that humanity was so broken it would end itself, so why not help move it along a bit.
He reminds me a lot of of Old Testament Satan (the Accuser). I guess that would make Diana Jesus...
We saw it this evening. Best DC movie I've seen in several years all the way back to Batman Begins. It was a solid B. Felt a little long all over and esp. during the final confrontation.
I thought the final fight was the best in any current DC movie in terms of cinematic mechanics, well choreographed with a sense of immense scale. It was fun in a DBZ way. However, the resolution felt a bit like if Luke Skywalker killed the emperor with his lightsaber. Tonally and thematically inappropriate.
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Yeah, it's why I really wish there had been no Ares in the movie/war. No whispers or obfuscations or any potential outside influence, just mankind sucking sometimes. Have the final fight with the General on his super gas be a bit bigger, and have her still using some big move to finish him with a good expanding wave of power, though not quite so giant crater causing. Then as a bonus credit scene somewhere else away from the war show a kind of ripple of power/energy roll over some guy and him looking up and towards its source and something to imply/hint that That's Ares and he's become aware of her.
I loved it. There was excellent action and plenty of good laughs. They did a great job evoking the setting, and fitting the Great War in to a superhero film without diminishing the tragedy and complexity of the actual war.
This is also the first superhero film in a long time where the major character wasn't always right about everything, and always battling against people who didn't understand the major character was always right about everything. This was refreshing and made the heroism more meaningful - it is one thing to act bravely when you have absolute certainty, and quite another to act bravely when you have doubts and uncertainties.
WW was a really engaging hero, Gadot balanced a kind of naivety and youthful enthusiasm with great power and a keen mind. That's a tough thing to balance, as if you get it a bit wrong you end up with superhero man children, something that's annoyed me about a lot of recent Marvel and DC films.
Chris Pine was also excellent, the character ended up having a lot of depth, where it might have just been a combination of exposition and comedic foil, instead he was believable and interesting and a key to making us engage with WW's character arc.
The other minor characters were interesting ideas, but none were handled well - the French Tunisian? was mostly played for dopey laughs, the post traumatic stress Scot seemed to recover in a scene left on the cutting room floor, and the Indian actor I thought did pretty well working with some really tired cliches. I mean smoke signals in a move in 2017?
The villains were also uninteresting. Ares had a couple of good lines at the end, but everything else was just short scenes of villains doing what they always do in these movies. Murdering a bunch of senior officers from your own army, and strolling away why no-one does anything? So stupid and so common in movies like this.
I also couldn't help myself with a whole bunch of nitpicks throughout the movie, particularly in regards to the Great War being represented. Silly stuff, but lines about a battalion being in the same place for a year - UK units were regularly cycled on and off the front, and this was at the end of the war, when war on the front had opened up due to improved offensive tactics, broken front line positions, and collapsing moral. But these are nitpicks, what's more important is that they evoked the horror of the war.
The ending was overlong, and full of the stupid thing where the hero and villain shout debating points at each other in between punches, but that's true of most superhero movies.
Heh, I just ended listing all the small things that I didn't like about this movie. Which is odd because its a really, really good movie, and probably my favourite superhero film since The Dark Knight.
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Elemental wrote: Really liked this movie, as someone who was lukewarm at best on the previous DC movies. It feels like the sort of tone the previous ones were trying for, if that makes sense?
I've really liked what DC has been aiming for in its previous efforts, but I think the execution was badly lacking. Man of Steel took the melancholy to extremes while also giving us space dragons and Russell Crow as a space ghost, Batman vs Superman invested hours in to set ups while bungling its main plot, and Suicide Squad fought against its own premise by giving us the madcap adventures of a bunch of whacky villains doing little more than walking across a city to do the mission they were ordered to complete.
This time they got the execution right, and the result was a film that included more mature themes, while still being a lot of fun.
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well directed, great cast, great action, some good comedy to make the more dramatic elements more effective - something that DC have finally understood. Thoughtful in places and all in a brilliant movie.
Well Done DC!
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Can only really echo the above, cracking film, whole cast was good.
Pine especially.
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The only thing that felt 'off' was Steve sacrificing himself for what was essentially no reason?
They could have blown the plane up and had the gas consumed by fire pretty much in some open field somewhere, couldn't they?
I realize that his death 'unlocked' Diana's 'full potential and power' and showed her that there is as much 'good' about humanity as their is 'evil', but...
They didn't specifically describe that situation but they did specifically discuss a number of alternative solutions which weren't viable (IE it killing everyone in the surrounding area / out of control fireball etc), so I'm willing to accept that this was the only suitable solution.
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Not to mention coming up with the plan in a hurry while they were already taxiing the plane to the runway. Might not have been the best solution, but it was the best solution they could think of in a few minutes.
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