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And why you decided to share that precious info with us is even more puzzling.

 Melissia wrote:

Requizen wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Proven track record is pretty damn good evidence.

No, it's not. Having physical proof of the miniatures existing is evidence. Someone saying "this might happen" is rumor.

If a weatherperson who has never been wrong said that it's going to rain in the afternoon, don't you think you might be inclined to carry your umbrella with you?

If the "weatherperson" is a meteorologist from an accredited course, I would trust in their training and the science behind meteorology as well as the technology that assists them in predicting the weather.

You're comparing apples and oranges. This is not a valid analogy.

It's a fine analogy.

You have a person (weatherperson/rumormonger) who is bringing you information (weather/rumors) even if you don't see the source (meteorology/their insider info) and they have a 100% accuracy rating. So you in general can trust those people.

No one is saying to trust random anons on 4chan. But when someone who has a spotless record says something, it's worth listening to.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Why can't we get a “Imperial agent” thread, when there is already another official thread for the Traitor Legion supplement here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/705017.page ?

Can we get a moderator on that?

This is the thread for discussing news and rumors regarding the Imperial Agents supplement. There's no need for a separate N&R thread about the same topic.

This conversation is going nowhere and it's spiraling off topic, so I'm done. Disagree if you want, but I value the expertise of people who are trained in their field and assisted by advanced technology and centuries of scientific studies far more than the expertise of someone who relies on gut feeling. And I see no logical reason for me to think otherwise.

 Melissia wrote:
This conversation is going nowhere and it's spiraling off topic

Correct. Further discussion of the analogy is off-topic here. If you want to take it elsewhere, feel free. Of course, discussing the credibility of rumors about the upcoming supplements is on-topic. Thanks!

 Manchu wrote:
This is the thread for discussing news and rumors regarding the Imperial Agents supplement. There's no need for a separate N&R thread about the same topic.

I don't think you understood my request. I wasn't asking for a new thread about Imperial Agents. I was asking for a separation of the Imperial Agents stuff and the Legion stuff, i.e. this thread becomes only about Imperial Agent, and the discussion about Legions is moved into this thread, which already has “Traitor Legions Codex Supplement” in its very title. Unless there is need for two separate N&R threads about the Legion supplement somehow?

Yeah, I second the split. I don't really see a downside to 2 separate threads.

How come we have virtually no information about traitor legions yet? And the information we do have comes from GW itself ?!

Not even natfka has anything, hell, we don't even have people wishlisting Oo

I'll throw my hat in the ring regarding the Agent supplement; I'd say that that is genuine - the photos look pretty authentic to me, and I think faking rumours over a niche faction like Imperial Agents would be pretty sub par if one was aiming to cause a stir for their kicks.

As for the Sisters, I think it is best to remain cautious/sceptical about it. I think with GW's current progress this year, they definitely have it in them to see a SoB release through, but much like a lot of Sister related discussions, I don't think any progress will be made until some hard evidence is presented.

G.A

 General Annoyance wrote:
I'll throw my hat in the ring regarding the Agent supplement; I'd say that that is genuine - the photos look pretty authentic to me, and I think faking rumours over a niche faction like Imperial Agents would be pretty sub par if one was aiming to cause a stir for their kicks.

The legitimacy of the book is not in question. It's in this month's WD. The community page announced it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


The legitimacy of the book is not in question. It's in this month's WD. The community page announced it.

Ah, thanks for clarifying - perhaps I should've refreshed myself with the latest news before saying that

 General Annoyance wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


The legitimacy of the book is not in question. It's in this month's WD. The community page announced it.

Ah, thanks for clarifying - perhaps I should've refreshed myself with the latest news before saying that

The biggest question now for imperial agents is what the point of it actually is. What purpose is it intended to have. At least for non-sisters players. For sisters players it's: will it have new rules/models on display? Also, will it preview new sisters, be the next step in the final squatting of sisters or just be status quo? These are the pressing issues.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I was asking for a separation of the Imperial Agents stuff and the Legion stuff, i.e. this thread becomes only about Imperial Agent, and the discussion about Legions is moved into http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/705017.page.

Let it be done! This thread is now officially for discussing the Imperial Agents supplement. Discussion of the Traitors Legion supplement should proceed in the other thread. I will change the title of this thread to reflect the change.

You da MOD, dog!

ERJAK wrote:

 General Annoyance wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


The legitimacy of the book is not in question. It's in this month's WD. The community page announced it.

Ah, thanks for clarifying - perhaps I should've refreshed myself with the latest news before saying that

The biggest question now for imperial agents is what the point of it actually is. What purpose is it intended to have. At least for non-sisters players. For sisters players it's: will it have new rules/models on display? Also, will it preview new sisters, be the next step in the final squatting of sisters or just be status quo? These are the pressing issues.

Exactly what I would like to know just started getting into 40k but considering waiting untili hear more on the sisters.I hope something is announced soon.

 Roknar wrote:
How come we have virtually no information about traitor legions yet? And the information we do have comes from GW itself ?!

Not even natfka has anything, hell, we don't even have people wishlisting Oo

Those of us with review copies aren't allowed to talk about them until pre-order Saturday/late Friday night US. Like last week with WoM, (I can only speak for myself) the review will post when pre-orders go live. I imagine warhammer community will tease more on Thursday and/or Friday.
But it's...

 Roknar wrote:
How come we have virtually no information about traitor legions yet? And the information we do have comes from GW itself ?!

Not even natfka has anything, hell, we don't even have people wishlisting Oo

This is an important development. In the past couple months, GW is actively getting ahead of rumors via the new community site and sending review copies to a few peoples. This is a positive step!

 VeteranNoob wrote:

 Roknar wrote:
How come we have virtually no information about traitor legions yet? And the information we do have comes from GW itself ?!

Not even natfka has anything, hell, we don't even have people wishlisting Oo

Those of us with review copies aren't allowed to talk about them until pre-order Saturday/late Friday night US. Like last week with WoM, (I can only speak for myself) the review will post when pre-orders go live. I imagine warhammer community will tease more on Thursday and/or Friday.

Cool beans!

But it's...

Oh... you're such a tease!

I had no idea they were sending out review copies as a rule now.
That's awesome, but my god it's driving me nuts XD. I'm figuratively walking circles into the ground while pacing and checking this thread every chance I get for a whiff of news lol.

So close to the preorders and I know nothing. I'm 90% sure they will copy Black Legion but there is that ever present glimmer of hope and the anticipation is killing me.
And to a lesser degree agents of the imperium lol. I'm just not sure it's something I want....yet

Why are they sending out review copies?

If it's basically:

Iron Warriors
Army Special Rules
Relics
Warlord Traits
Formations 1 through 4

Alpha Legion
Army Special Rules
Relics
Warlord Traits
Formations 1 through 4

Night Lords
Army Special Rules
Relics
Warlord Traits
Formations 1 through 4

... and so on, then it will be enough. I don't expect GW to do it properly like FW does with their legion rules, and I certainly don't expect them to do the three other main Legions properly with plastic Noise Marines/Noise Marine Termiantors/Plague Marines & Termiantors/Berzerker Marines (new ones) and Termies/etc., but actually giving some in-game distinction between the various Legions beyond a fething paint job will be the first step in the right direction GW has made with Chaos since that colossal leap backwards they took 9 years ago.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Why are they sending out review copies?

If it's basically:

Iron Warriors
Army Special Rules
Relics
Warlord Traits
Formations 1 through 4

Alpha Legion
Army Special Rules
Relics
Warlord Traits
Formations 1 through 4

Night Lords
Army Special Rules
Relics
Warlord Traits
Formations 1 through 4

... and so on, then it will be enough. I don't expect GW to do it properly like FW does with their legion rules, and I certainly don't expect them to do the three other main Legions properly with plastic Noise Marines/Noise Marine Termiantors/Plague Marines & Termiantors/Berzerker Marines (new ones) and Termies/etc., but actually giving some in-game distinction between the various Legions beyond a fething paint job will be the first step in the right direction GW has made with Chaos since that colossal leap backwards they took 9 years ago.

I'd probably hazard the Nurgle and Slaanesh lores getting expanded and the expanded Tzeentch lore from WoM being reprinted in TL as well just to all be in one place.

Here's a thought, if you like the SoB metals this might be the last chance to get them at retail since it's unlikely they'll remain once plastics come out.

You're so optimistic about Sisters plastics. It's adorable

But that's also true, if it does happen.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Here's a thought, if you like the SoB metals this might be the last chance to get them at retail since it's unlikely they'll remain once plastics come out.

Trust me, they've been the same models for long enough that whoever wants them, has them. Heck, plenty of people who don't want metal models at all have a few hundred/thousand points of 'em.

 VeteranNoob wrote:

 Roknar wrote:
How come we have virtually no information about traitor legions yet? And the information we do have comes from GW itself ?!

Not even natfka has anything, hell, we don't even have people wishlisting Oo

Those of us with review copies aren't allowed to talk about them until pre-order Saturday/late Friday night US. Like last week with WoM, (I can only speak for myself) the review will post when pre-orders go live. I imagine warhammer community will tease more on Thursday and/or Friday.
But it's...

The teasing is real. I sold off my Daemons/CSM to fund my AoS but honestly if the Death Guard stuff is good I might have to suffer another army.

 VeteranNoob wrote:

 Roknar wrote:
How come we have virtually no information about traitor legions yet? And the information we do have comes from GW itself ?!

Not even natfka has anything, hell, we don't even have people wishlisting Oo

Those of us with review copies aren't allowed to talk about them until pre-order Saturday/late Friday night US. Like last week with WoM, (I can only speak for myself) the review will post when pre-orders go live. I imagine warhammer community will tease more on Thursday and/or Friday.
But it's...

I accept PMs. And I'm not a chatterbox. Just throwing that out there.

 VeteranNoob wrote:

Those of us with review copies aren't allowed to talk about them until pre-order Saturday/late Friday night US. Like last week with WoM, (I can only speak for myself) the review will post when pre-orders go live. I imagine warhammer community will tease more on Thursday and/or Friday.
But it's...

Glad that the traitor legions material is looking good as chaos deserves a proper bone thrown their way. I just hope the Imperial Agents book isn't just copy + paste lumping together of all the smaller IoM factions but that we gets some actual rules.

Also if GW is reading any of this please feel free to send me any and all Ork related content. Ill review the mess out of them.

 Vankraken wrote:

 VeteranNoob wrote:

Those of us with review copies aren't allowed to talk about them until pre-order Saturday/late Friday night US. Like last week with WoM, (I can only speak for myself) the review will post when pre-orders go live. I imagine warhammer community will tease more on Thursday and/or Friday.
But it's...

Glad that the traitor legions material is looking good as chaos deserves a proper bone thrown their way. I just hope the Imperial Agents book isn't just copy + paste lumping together of all the smaller IoM factions but that we gets some actual rules.

Also if GW is reading any of this please feel free to send me any and all Ork related content. Ill review the mess out of them.

That's they're secret, they already sent you all the orc material that they're making for the next decade.

ERJAK wrote:
The biggest question now for imperial agents is what the point of it actually is. What purpose is it intended to have. At least for non-sisters players. For sisters players it's: will it have new rules/models on display? Also, will it preview new sisters, be the next step in the final squatting of sisters or just be status quo? These are the pressing issues.

I'd say that either way, the Agents Codex will not offer new Sisters; if GW is going to release Sisters again, I'd say that they'd definitely have their own Codex. You can make the point that the Adepta Sororitas are the militant arm of the Ordo Hereticus, ergo since the Codex is about Imperial Agents such as Inquisitors, they'll feature in it; but then again, the Deathwatch are the militant arm of the Ordo Xenos, and they have their own Codex.

I think it's clear that this Codex is intended as a replacement for the Inquisition Codex, and its purpose will be primarily with attaching the units within to larger armies (i.e. adding Imperial Assassins and Inquisitors to an Imperial force you own). However, I will say that its existence is good for Sisters fans, as featuring anything related to the Ordo Hereticus will mean that the chances of a Sisters Codex will be high to accompany them.

That is if GW don't get rid of Sisters from the fluff; I doubt they will honestly - it seems too much of a hassle to have to rewrite another faction that will answer to the Ordo Hereticus rather than just use what they have already.

G.A

 General Annoyance wrote:

I'd say that either way, the Agents Codex will not offer new Sisters; if GW is going to release Sisters again, I'd say that they'd definitely have their own Codex. You can make the point that the Adepta Sororitas are the militant arm of the Ordo Hereticus, ergo since the Codex is about Imperial Agents such as Inquisitors, they'll feature in it; but then again, the Deathwatch are the militant arm of the Ordo Xenos, and they have their own Codex.

I think it's clear that this Codex is intended as a replacement for the Inquisition Codex, and its purpose will be primarily with attaching the units within to larger armies (i.e. adding Imperial Assassins and Inquisitors to an Imperial force you own). However, I will say that its existence is good for Sisters fans, as featuring anything related to the Ordo Hereticus will mean that the chances of a Sisters Codex will be high to accompany them.

That is if GW don't get rid of Sisters from the fluff; I doubt they will honestly - it seems too much of a hassle to have to rewrite another faction that will answer to the Ordo Hereticus rather than just use what they have already.

G.A

I am hoping that is the case. Have the updated rules for the Inq and have detachment/formation options for the Inq to bring units from the other codexes. For example a Xenos Inquisitor can bring a Deathwatch Kill Team and have whatever detachment bonuses for that but the rules for the Kill Team itself is still from the Deathwatch Codex. The real bare bones stuff like Assasins should have the unit rules in the agents book but let the big armies (Deathwatch, Grey Knights, and Sisters of Battle) retain their own books but have cross faction formations with the Inq. Hopefully laying the foundation for the Inq will lead up to an update to Sisters and Grey Knights in 2017 and considering all the Chaos stuff happening it would be an ideal time to release material for them.