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**pretre**

Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

It was Atia and there were screenshots of her blog confirming it.
I posted the images in the plastic SOB thread.
Here's the link for convenience.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/270/705042.page#8956487

Consider myself corrected. I'll add that to her track.

**pretre**

tastytaste wrote:

While I agree with what you said about BoLS, I am pretty sure "Lady" Atia is copying from Sad Panda and very much so just echos whatever someone else says with slight twists.

Why say you're very sure? Why not just look at exactly what they posted?

All of Sad Panda's Rumors:

Sad Panda - Total rumors: (66 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (1 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE) - Updated 11/15/2016

Spoiler:

Atia - Total rumors: (57 TRUE) / (1 FALSE) / (1 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE) - Updated 11/19/2016

Spoiler:

'Cause it doesn't look like a lot of copying going on.

**VeteranNoob**

Manchu wrote:
HURT 2 MANY TIMEZ

Just kidding ... kind of. I don't doubt they are coming, rationally. But I'm not going to get excited until I see the pics.

tooooooooootally fair. Don't purchase based on rumors, wait for confirmed info.

**daemonish**

So just a thought on the sisters, surely if sisters do get some plastics and they are part of the new imperial agents book surely there will be some photos of the new stuff in the book meaning latest release of January/February 2017

**andysonic1**

MadCowCrazy wrote:
I think it's time to lock this thread until we get the first solid info from Imperial Agents.

Wut? The thread is about both supplements, and we got news about Traitor Legions yesterday. Assuming more info is going to trickle in slowly today/tomorrow/the next day and up to the preorder, there's little reason to lock this thread. There is, however, every reason to not keep going in circles about the Imperial Agents book since literally zero info about that has come out.

**VeteranNoob**

Davor wrote:
kronk wrote:
Cothonian wrote:
I am really looking forward to Codex Imperial Agents. No more having to buy 3+ codex's for armies with only four or five units.

Agreed. That, and I prefer hard copies to electronica by like x45 or at least x44.7.

Is this a codex or supplement? I don't think this will replace anything so you are still going to need the SoB codex or what not and will not replace them totally. I could be wrong but I am going by the rumour of "no more new codices" so we will still need 3+ books. Please correct me if I am wrong as usual.

Codex Imperial Agents is a codex, 136 pages, pre-order Dec 10th. We can post reviews and talk about it then. So where there was no codex before for some of these 9 entries, there will be. More ways of using your collection and themey armies.

**pretre**

Neronoxx wrote:
Yeah, if you believe that Lady atia just copies Sad Panda you probably aren't at all familiar with the two. In fact, since the white dwarf switchover Sad Panda has been extremely silent - he might be done. Atia has been going strong before during and after - praise her efforts. Good shot at appearing informed though.

When was the switchover? I've got two rumors from SP in October.

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Melissia wrote:
I personnally, don't view ANY rumor posters offering vagaries and no real evidence to be 100% reliable. No one is an Oracle.

I don't consider them 100% reliable, but I consider them to be 95+% reliable.

Sad Panda - Total rumors: (66 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (1 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE) - Updated 11/15/2016
Atia - Total rumors: (57 TRUE) / (1 FALSE) / (1 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE) - Updated 11/19/2016

**Ghaz**

pretre wrote:
Neronoxx wrote:
Yeah, if you believe that Lady atia just copies Sad Panda you probably aren't at all familiar with the two. In fact, since the white dwarf switchover Sad Panda has been extremely silent - he might be done. Atia has been going strong before during and after - praise her efforts. Good shot at appearing informed though.

When was the switchover? I've got two rumors from SP in October.

September was the first monthly White Dwarf.

**pretre**

Ghaz wrote:
pretre wrote:
Neronoxx wrote:
Yeah, if you believe that Lady atia just copies Sad Panda you probably aren't at all familiar with the two. In fact, since the white dwarf switchover Sad Panda has been extremely silent - he might be done. Atia has been going strong before during and after - praise her efforts. Good shot at appearing informed though.

When was the switchover? I've got two rumors from SP in October.

September was the first monthly White Dwarf.

Okay, so that theory is shot.

**tneva82**

Kanluwen wrote:
Lady Atia and Sad Panda have a great track record...but BoLS, Naftka, and Faeit have at times posted Atia and Sad Panda's rumors up with slight 'tweaks' from their own wishlists.
I don't know whether it's on purpose to try to make Atia and Sad Panda look bad, if they don't know how to add a postscript, or what but it's important to actually find the posts from Lady Atia and/or Sad Panda to figure out what they actually said.

Pretre and his Rumor Tracker do a great job of this, but you can also search posts on Dakka based on user.

Your point being? When one sees Sad Panda here or Atia on Atia's site say sisters are coming that's pretty damn sure. GW hinting themselves is just icing on cake then.

Don't care about BOLS, Nafka or Faeith since I don't bother with those.

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Melissia wrote:
I personnally, don't view ANY rumor posters offering vagaries and no real evidence to be 100% reliable. No one is an Oracle.

Proven track record is pretty damn good evidence.

Frankly with track records you are better off believing THEM than you are believing white dwarf...

**Albino Squirrel**

pretre wrote:
Neronoxx wrote:
Yeah, if you believe that Lady atia just copies Sad Panda you probably aren't at all familiar with the two. In fact, since the white dwarf switchover Sad Panda has been extremely silent - he might be done. Atia has been going strong before during and after - praise her efforts. Good shot at appearing informed though.

When was the switchover? I've got two rumors from SP in October.

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Melissia wrote:
I personnally, don't view ANY rumor posters offering vagaries and no real evidence to be 100% reliable. No one is an Oracle.

I don't consider them 100% reliable, but I consider them to be 95+% reliable.

Sad Panda - Total rumors: (66 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (1 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE) - Updated 11/15/2016
Atia - Total rumors: (57 TRUE) / (1 FALSE) / (1 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE) - Updated 11/19/2016

Honestly, I even think that one "FALSE" from Atia could easily be called PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE.

By Fall Warzone fenris , AKA do we kill the wolves ? Black Library E-shorts blend into the next part. FALSE

Does "By Fall" mean by the start of Fall, or by the end of Fall? This seems to be a common misunderstanding, where someone will say "I'll have that done by next Wednesday". Do they mean start of day Wednesday, or end of day? And was she talking about Astronomical Seasons or Meteorological Seasons? If we're talking Astronomical Seasons , and coming out by the end of Fall, then the rumor was true. If Meteorological Seasons, it only missed by a few days.

**pretre**

When was Warzone: Fenris released?

edit: Oh wait. She posted that in March. The WZF stuff came out in Feb. She was talking about the sequel. December is not Fall.

**Neronoxx**

pretre wrote:
Ghaz wrote:
pretre wrote:
Neronoxx wrote:
Yeah, if you believe that Lady atia just copies Sad Panda you probably aren't at all familiar with the two. In fact, since the white dwarf switchover Sad Panda has been extremely silent - he might be done. Atia has been going strong before during and after - praise her efforts. Good shot at appearing informed though.

When was the switchover? I've got two rumors from SP in October.

September was the first monthly White Dwarf.

Okay, so that theory is shot.

After rereading his posts, they were discussion of things happening, not new rumours. We havent heard a new rumour from panda since before september it feels.

**EnTyme**

pretre wrote:
When was Warzone: Fenris released?

edit: Oh wait. She posted that in March. The WZF stuff came out in Feb. She was talking about the sequel. December is not Fall.

First day of winter is December 21. December is 2/3 fall by my count.

**pretre**

EnTyme wrote:
pretre wrote:
When was Warzone: Fenris released?

edit: Oh wait. She posted that in March. The WZF stuff came out in Feb. She was talking about the sequel. December is not Fall.

First day of winter is December 21. December is 2/3 fall by my count.

oh, fine.

**nagash42**

Lady Asia's one false rumor is actually true isn't it? The ebooks for wzf to merge with the second book.

**pretre**

nagash42 wrote:
Lady Asia's one false rumor is actually true isn't it? The ebooks for wzf to merge with the second book.

That's what we just hashed out. I was disputing the 'fall' thing and was corrected on the actuality of how fall works.

**Requizen**

To be fair, depending on where you are in the world, December can feel more or less like winter than it does in other places

**Melissia**

tneva82 wrote:
Proven track record is pretty damn good evidence.

No, it's not. Having physical proof of the miniatures existing is evidence. Someone saying "this might happen" is rumor.

**pretre**

Requizen wrote:
To be fair, depending on where you are in the world, December can feel more or less like winter than it does in other places

I totally cop to being on that side of the mental block. I think of December as Winter, so it was winter in the track.

**Requizen**

Melissia wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Proven track record is pretty damn good evidence.

No, it's not. Having physical proof of the miniatures existing is evidence. Someone saying "this might happen" is rumor.

If a weatherperson who has never been wrong said that it's going to rain in the afternoon, don't you think you might be inclined to carry your umbrella with you?

**axisofentropy**

pretre wrote:
Requizen wrote:
To be fair, depending on where you are in the world, December can feel more or less like winter than it does in other places

I totally cop to being on that side of the mental block. I think of December as Winter, so it was winter in the track.

let me say that I greatly appreciate your rumor tracking.

**ZebioLizard2**

Playing Devil's Advocate really quickly, but Traitor Legions is being marketed as a Supplement to Chaos Space Marines, not Thousand Sons and Chaos Space Marines.

I would be really surprised not to see the new Thousand Sons stuff within it. I'm being kind of hopeful that we see Contemptor, Tartaros, and Cataphractii rules in there as well.

Has anyone considered the possibility that it's new Thousand Sons rules? Like to represent another group, or Ahriman before he returned to Magnus?

**mrhappyface**

So I just realised this thread exists, I though all of the rumours would be posted in the WoM/TL/IA thread.

Have I missed anything that was posted in this thread and not the other? Traitor legion rules, artifacts, formations, etc.?

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Manchu wrote:
Arguing about which complaints are off-topic is itself off-topic. And Rule Number Two is Stay On Topic. Thanks!

Why can't we get a “Imperial agent” thread, when there is already another official thread for the Traitor Legion supplement here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/705017.page ?

Can we get a moderator on that? Or are they too busy censoring avatars?

**Davor**

Requizen wrote:To be fair, depending on where you are in the world, December can feel more or less like winter than it does in other places

Or Spring almost Summer.

**andysonic1**

mrhappyface wrote:
So I just realised this thread exists, I though all of the rumours would be posted in the WoM/TL/IA thread.

Have I missed anything that was posted in this thread and not the other? Traitor legion rules, artifacts, formations, etc.?

Nothing since the TL teaser post on the community site yesterday. Since they're so insistent to tease us to the point of breaking, we most likely won't see any more teasers till tomorrow or Thursday at the soonest for TL. IA won't be till next week if they keep the same teasing schedule.

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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Manchu wrote:
Arguing about which complaints are off-topic is itself off-topic. And Rule Number Two is Stay On Topic. Thanks!

Why can't we get a “Imperial agent” thread, when there is already another official thread for the Traitor Legion supplement here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/705017.page ?

Can we get a moderator on that? Or are they too busy censoring avatars?

An Imperial Agent thread would be pointless since there's been no news on that book since it was revealed. Like I said, they seem to have a teasing schedule they are sticking to and we won't know more about that book till next week.

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

andysonic1 wrote:
An Imperial Agent thread would be pointless since there's been no news on that book since it was revealed.

Have you read the last few pages? Quite a lot of Imperial Agents discussion. Even if there is no new Imperial Agent news, it will avoid people that are interested in Imperial Agent to check up the new messages in the thread and find Legion information that they are not interested in instead. And it will do the same for people interested in Legion that are not interested in Imperial Agents.

**Melissia**

Requizen wrote:
Melissia wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Proven track record is pretty damn good evidence.

No, it's not. Having physical proof of the miniatures existing is evidence. Someone saying "this might happen" is rumor.

If a weatherperson who has never been wrong said that it's going to rain in the afternoon, don't you think you might be inclined to carry your umbrella with you?

If the "weatherperson" is a meteorologist from an accredited course, I would trust in their training and the science behind meteorology as well as the technology that assists them in predicting the weather.

You're comparing apples and oranges. This is not a valid analogy.

**andysonic1**

Edit: I'd rather remove this before a mod did lel