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Davor wrote:
I thought we got this thread broken up from Chaos Legions because this was suppose to be Imperial Agents. I guess this thread just became Sisters of Battle thread not Imperial Agents.

This thread should have never been split into two separate threads. Now instead of Imperil Agents we are just talking about Sisters of Battle.

So what exactly are we to talk about regarding Imperial Agents? Sisters are in the codex and it was revealed today that there will be a finecast Canoness. What other news is there?

 Starfarer wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Sisters aren't any worse than Deathwatch with their 4 HQs, 1 Troops, 4 Elites, 5 FA(4 of which are dedicated transports), 3 HS. Sisters have around the same number of units. And if they are getting a new model range, they are likely going to get more.

But Deathwatch are space marines, so that means they automatically deserve a codex.

I have yet to see anyone making the argument that Sisters don't deserve a codex. I think that they will be in this book in addition to being in their own codex is great. Several different armies that have codexes, such as Grey Knights, Deathwatch, and Cult Mechanicus, will be in this book. This will just give all of those armies an alternative way to be played.

I definitely am going to make a squad of Legion of the Damned out of half of a Tactical Squad for use with this book. (I will need to get a lot of skulls to do it).

So, ignoring the complaints that people are doing about the fact that people are discussing the Imperial Agents book, its purpose and contents, and what this means for future army releases, merely because the discussion has after over two dozen pages turned to Sisters of Battle...

We've had numerous sources say that the Imperial Agents book is explicitly not going to replace any codex-- that is not its purpose. Its purpose is to allow for Imperial armies to take small units from a wide variety of sources with ease. And this is in line with my own prediction of the purpose of Imperial Agents book, which IMO was never intended to be an update or a statement of direction for any particular army that had a unit contained in it. It was intended as a "hey you want to grab some cool units that aren't in your codex well here's an easy way to do it" book.

Whomever thinks sisters are getting plastic and they may not get any new unheard of units hasn't been paying attention to GW lately. Nearly every plastic box is now a dual kit box and the fact a unit never existed before has absolutely no reasoning they won't create something new. Just look at all the new units that came out of no where and makes absolutely no sense fluff wise. I'm looking at you centurions!!!

 Melissia wrote:
So, ignoring the kinda hypocritical whining that people are doing about the fact that people are discussing the Imperial Agents book, its purpose and contents, and what this means for future army releases, merely because the discussion has after over two dozen pages turned to Sisters of Battle...

We've had numerous sources say that the Imperial Agents book is explicitly not going to replace any codex-- that is not its purpose. Its purpose is to allow for Imperial armies to take small units from a wide variety of sources with ease. And this is in line with my own prediction of the purpose of Imperial Agents book, which IMO was never intended to be an update or a statement of direction for any particular army that had a unit contained in it. It was intended as a "hey you want to grab some cool units that aren't in your codex well here's an easy way to do it" book.

Any codex means Deathwatch or Grey Knights, which was explicitly stated by their site.

It's worth saying that this will not replace existing printed codexes for the Deathwatch or Grey Knights – this just means that, if you want to add a small strike force of Elite Space Marines to your Imperial army (perhaps requisitioned by an Inquisitor, or high ranking officer), this book makes it easy for you to do so.

There are however a handful of changes, if their site is correct.

Much of this content is only available digitally at the moment, some of it is new, and much of it is updated.

Though it is nice that Ordo X can grab whatever small strike force as their warband aside from acolytes.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Any codex means Deathwatch or Grey Knights, which was explicitly stated by their site.

Notice the wording there. Sisters don't have a printed codex to replace. You're reading far too much in to it.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
There are however a handful of changes, if their site is correct.

I am not really convinced that's more than a marketing blurb-- pretty sure there will be very few material changes to the units in the Imperial Agents book as compared to the base codices.

Wait so LotD will be in here as well?

I remember them being listed as included. Too lazy to search the thread to confirm.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Wait so LotD will be in here as well?

Yes, they were listed on the blurb on the Warhammer Community site.

On Atia's blog, she hints at a board game coming with plastic Inquisitors, possibly Inquisitor done in 28mm. Who knows, maybe they will rerelease Watch Captain Artemis in that too.

I am starting to like this book more and more. : D

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Wait so LotD will be in here as well?

Yes, they were listed on the blurb on the Warhammer Community site.

On Atia's blog, she hints at a board game coming with plastic Inquisitors, possibly Inquisitor done in 28mm. Who knows, maybe they will rerelease Watch Captain Artemis in that too.

Well this is my 40k holy grail. I love the idea of inq28 but lack the conversion chops. There was a similar rumour a few years ago and I was heart broken when it turned out to be false.
If inq28 does come with a full range of Inquisitors and henchmen, I will happily crown this the new golden age of GW.

I just had a talk with my trade rep at GW. The model is resin, comes with rules in the box. Max of 5 per shop at the moment.

 Starfarer wrote:
I already mentioned the rhino, and the others are just rhino variants. The penitent engine is the only other unit that is truly unique. And that means GW isn't going to create a codex for one new kit. Not when they can put out a single plastic sisters squad that cover making units of the majority of Sisters squads that exist.

There are already armies in the game that use 1-2 kits to make basically everything. Sisters wouldn't be any different. I don't see why what your describing is an issue.

 Starfarer wrote:
They really just need jump packs, and they could release those separately in finecast like they did with the stormcast upgrade packs.

They wouldn't do that with a core choice. They would make a plastic 5 model box for Seraphim and (if the Emperor is merciful) a 10 model regular Sisters box with a few heavy weapons in it. They could even do a 5 model Retributor box and put more heavy weapons in there and give the Sisters heavier armour. A combo-Immolator/Exorcist, a Rhino kit, a few HQ's and bingo. A whole army. It'd be as much as the Grey Knights have, if not more.

 Starfarer wrote:
They aren't going to make new units or anything that doesn't already exist, that's nearly certain.

Why?


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Davor wrote:
I thought we got this thread broken up from Chaos Legions because this was suppose to be Imperial Agents. I guess this thread just became Sisters of Battle thread not Imperial Agents.

This thread should have never been split into two separate threads. Now instead of Imperil Agents we are just talking about Sisters of Battle.

Sisters of Battle are in Imperial Agents, ergo this thread is still about that. Discussing the implications of such an inclusion is perfectly on topic.

And why are we always so hung up about topic here? Conversations develop over time and wander around the main topic. Sisters are in this book, therefore Sisters can be a topic.

 Starfarer wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 Starfarer wrote:
They are 3 versions of power armor squads and then another version of powerarmor with jumpacks. Thats the whole army.

That's not even objectively true, never mind subjectively.

I forget the names, but isn't it basically bolter squads, special weapon squads and heavy weapon squads? And they Seraphim for the jump pack sqauds. What else is there?

Don't feed the Troll - this one talks complete nonsense so best to ignore.

Going back to the actual topic it may be that a specific Ordo Inquisitors unlock their chamber militant and there may be a formation thing for that?

Contacted my FLGS, he'll find out today whether or not he'll be getting any of those Canoness models. I've pre-ordered one just in case it's an awesome sculpt.

Hope I'll be able to get one

Also Atia said there will be a re-print of the Island of Blood Box up for pre-order on the 17th? The Christmas present I didn't even know I needed. Never got IoB but the models are some of the best imo especially for a starter set. What a month this has turned out to be.

GW manages to rescue 2016.

Seems there might be a new faction in 40K: Imperial Forces
All assassins are part of this faction as are Imperial Knights?
Is this old and I have simply missed it until now?

I doubt it's gonna work in a normal factions way. Seems to be something different.

 Crimson wrote:
Don't worry haters, Blanche is pretty old so I'm sure he'll retire soon enough. Then we can all enjoy 40K devolving into a boring generic scifi mush.

He's fairly active recently, especially in the iq28 scene.

Thing to consider: Grey Knights only have 3 individual unique multipart kits (PA squad, terminator squad and dreadknight) which can be assambled as 7 different unit types, as well as a bunch of resin characters. Sisters would probably have the same, if not more (PA sisters, seraphim, repentia and penatent engines.)

 JohnnyHell wrote:
I doubt it's gonna work in a normal factions way. Seems to be something different.

I am expecting every faction in this book to have their individual factions, not to be lumped into one overarching faction. Which is fine by me, since if the Deathwatch detachment provides better options than the standard Allied Detachment, I am going to use Watch Captain Artemis (since he can replace any Watch Captain in a Deathwatch detachment) in place of the inevitable Watch Captain that is in this book.

Are they going to bring back oop models ?
The gw com site shows an oop inq model in all its glory.

Probably like they did with IG and the Daemonettes? I have not heard anything about it though.

God, would love it if they did that, loved those old inquisitor + retinue sets, wish I picked up the WG one back in the day, love that lexmechanic and acolyte with the flamer arms!

Yes. This is probably my favourite gw release ever.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Hope I'll be able to get one

Also Atia said there will be a re-print of the Island of Blood Box up for pre-order on the 17th? The Christmas present I didn't even know I needed. Never got IoB but the models are some of the best imo especially for a starter set. What a month this has turned out to be.

GW manages to rescue 2016.

???

???

Reprint the starter box from a game they killed? Would it be AoS'ed?

Damn, GW seems to have read my mind as I wanted to make a force of DeathWatch allied with Military Tempestus (and maybe SoB if they have new models soon). Bought a lot of DW models but was very disappointed by their codex (the combining of units, apart from termi and veterans, seems so silly to me as you don't fully benefit from the movement of the bikes and vanguard veterans, plus the rules from the formations felt uninspired ), hopefully this will allow me to build an army which will better fit my thematic.

Hopefully they will do a made to order for the oop inquisition stuff.

I am liking that you can bring units from other factions like Grey Knights without needing to bring an entire GK Detachment. What I find shocking is the lack of Militarum Tempestus but the inclusion of Legion of the Damned (didn't think they had any sort of connection with the I'm interested in what Astra Telepathica and Aeronautica Imperialis would include as they are not currently playable factions. Hopefully its something interesting and not just "you can take Psykers or Valkyries". Still while im glad that the Inq is getting some attention I hope that attention spreads to GK, MT, and Sisters as they are all factions in need of support.

So wait, does this have Cult Mech AND Skitarii?