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2016/12/07 01:29:58
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
A Town Called Malus wrote: Her face is awful, in my opinion. Not sure if it is the paint job or the sculpt but the face of the model looks nothing like the artwork. They didn't even get the design of the eyepiece right and the painter forgot the fleur-de-lis under her eye.
The scarring on the right side (her left) of the face is way too raised up which, combined with the paintjob, makes it look like she's had an allergic reaction to a space-bee sting.
First thing that popped into my head when I saw the mini was "JOWLS!".
Restrictions - All units in this Formation which can take a Dedicated Transport must do so.
Rules:
"Ow my nails!" - All ranged weapons in this Formation have the "Gets Hot!" special rule.
Women Drivers - All vehicles in this formation may move either 2" or 18" per turn in the Movement phase - no more, no less - and cannot pivot. Any enemy unit contacted by a vehicle from this formation which moves 18" counts as having been tank Shocked and automatically fails the Morale check.
"Eeek, a Lictor! Save me!" - All units in this formation have Ld3 unless a big strong Space Marine is within 6" of them.
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2016/12/07 01:39:22
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
BBAP wrote: Judging by GW's enthusiasm for the faction I'd guess there'll be 2 pages. You get rules for Canoness Veridyan, and a single formation, outlined below:
BBAP wrote: Judging by GW's enthusiasm for the faction I'd guess there'll be 2 pages. You get rules for Canoness Veridyan, and a single formation, outlined below:
I see you are trying to be funny, but this is pretty horrible taste of you
I thought it was pretty funny and well thought out, using several tropes and puns. I laughed even though I'm a sisters player and therefore should feel insulted
Thargrim wrote: Honestly Karl Kopinskis take on them is the direction I would want them to go in if they were to go plastic.
I am alone in my dedication to the wondertastic Andrea Uderzo sisters. I shall weep a lone, very manly tear that will trickle from my manly eye down to my manly jaw. .
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2016/12/07 01:51:05
Subject: Re:Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
MadCowCrazy wrote: I thought it was pretty funny and well thought out, using several tropes and puns. I laughed even though I'm a sisters player and therefore should feel insulted
I'm a Sisters player too. At least I used to be. Now I'm a Sisters collector. The post wasn't a jab at the Sisters; it was an ironic reflection on how Sisters have changed over time as GW tries to cater to the "deplorable virgin manchild" demographic. The Sisters used to be Space Fanatics who did a nice line in Big Damn Hero bad-assery and were so pious their belief could do magic tricks. Now they wear skull-bras and high heels to war.
If that's not how the final sculpts turn out then I'll happily apologise for being a cynical arse.
If.
All that said I'll probably still buy one, just because it's the first new Sisters model in, like, 15 years, and the more they sell they more likely they are to release new ones more frequently in future.
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2016/12/07 02:00:58
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
BBAP wrote: I mean, we're already grown adults playing with toy soldiers - no need to go full "repressed manchild dominatrix fantasy" with the sculpts, is there?
Imagine a Dominatrix whipping a bunch of half-naked girls wielding giant swords.
BBAP wrote: Judging by GW's enthusiasm for the faction (...).
Or a flying Angel with a dove in her hand and flowers on her sword.
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I like the model. She has the blanchesque weirdness but better proportions - she actually looks like she has thighs and not just the femur with some skin inside the power armour. She looks quite menacing, too. And that she isn't the blueprint for a possible new release should be kinda obvious.
2016/12/07 02:13:10
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
Dryaktylus wrote: Imagine a Dominatrix whipping a bunch of half-naked girls wielding giant swords.
They were clever with the Repentia, though. They suck so hard that nobody takes them.
Or a flying Angel with a dove in her hand and flowers on her sword.
I always saw Celestine as representative of the "cheesy Protestant baroque" aspect of the aesthetic rather than "lol gurls hurpdurp".
I like the model. She has the blanchesque weirdness but better proportions - she actually looks like she has thighs and not just the femur with some skin inside the power armour. She looks quite menacing, too.
I mean, she's alright, if you ignore the Aeon Flux brothel-hoppers and skull-boobs. And the cocked leg. Why is she standing like that? Even in the picture it makes no sense - it's like she walked out in front of a mob of fanatics to pose with her hoof-foot on a skull.
I'm hoping I can do a leg-swap. That way I'll be able to field her without feeling bad.
And that she isn't the blueprint for a possible new release should be kinda obvious.
How do you figure? You think GW would be the first or only design firm to send their female warriors to war in platform heels?
It's coming, bro. I'll eat my hat if it's not.
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2016/12/07 02:19:25
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
BBAP wrote: The post wasn't a jab at the Sisters; it was an ironic reflection on how Sisters have changed over time as GW tries to cater to the "deplorable virgin manchild" demographic.
Please stop that. Please stop that right now and never do it again.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2016/12/07 02:20:13
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
MadCowCrazy wrote: I thought it was pretty funny and well thought out, using several tropes and puns. I laughed even though I'm a sisters player and therefore should feel insulted
I'm a Sisters player too. At least I used to be. Now I'm a Sisters collector. The post wasn't a jab at the Sisters; it was an ironic reflection on how Sisters have changed over time as GW tries to cater to the "deplorable virgin manchild" demographic. The Sisters used to be Space Fanatics who did a nice line in Big Damn Hero bad-assery and were so pious their belief could do magic tricks. Now they wear skull-bras and high heels to war.
If that's not how the final sculpts turn out then I'll happily apologise for being a cynical arse.
If.
All that said I'll probably still buy one, just because it's the first new Sisters model in, like, 15 years, and the more they sell they more likely they are to release new ones more frequently in future.
Considering the edition that this art came from, and much of the other art from the time I dare say Sisters have not changed, people just chose to ignore .
People want to fanfic Sisters into something else, that is well and good but reality is reality and I love what they are doing
2016/12/07 02:41:31
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
I mean, she's alright, if you ignore the Aeon Flux brothel-hoppers and skull-boobs. And the cocked leg. Why is she standing like that? Even in the picture it makes no sense - it's like she walked out in front of a mob of fanatics to pose with her hoof-foot on a skull.
They wanted to depict the artwork. The artwork from a codex. With a stern sister looking at you. BUY. ME. NOW!
How do you figure? You think GW would be the first or only design firm to send their female warriors to war in platform heels?
None of the SoB models (or even other artwork) actually looked like that. Not in 2nd edition nor in 3rd. Do you really thi...
It's coming, bro. I'll eat my hat if it's not.
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2016/12/07 02:43:00
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
I'm a Sisters player too. At least I used to be. Now I'm a Sisters collector. The post wasn't a jab at the Sisters; it was an ironic reflection on how Sisters have changed over time as GW tries to cater to the "deplorable virgin manchild" demographic. The Sisters used to be Space Fanatics who did a nice line in Big Damn Hero bad-assery and were so pious their belief could do magic tricks. Now they wear skull-bras and high heels to war.
She's on their first ever codex, dressed exactly like that. So unless you're talking about the period before that, they've always had aspects of that and GW's not really changed a thing.
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2016/12/07 02:46:08
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
While I do want this model, since it looks pretty awesome, and I will need a Canoness anyway, I really won't be heartbroken if I don't get one. I prefer regular plastic, and when the new Sisters of Battle kits hit, I am sure a nice plastic Canoness will be available then too.
So it's based on the Blanche piece and I think it did a fine job of meshing gw proportions with the originals details... Even uf it's missing the fleur de lis tat... That said I don't think if plastics exist they will look like this at all... Yes this is an iconic piece but as a sisters player who started with witch hunters I will say I think both Karl and Andrea's art are better proportioned and capture the spirit of the army better... Blanche's art depicts them as pseudosexual fashion models... Just look at that pose she is pushing that skull away with her foot and pouting... Andrea's art shows the sisters as baroque warriors while Karl's usually shows a kind of mournful stoiscm both of which communicate the fact that these are soldiers much more than Blanche's
2016/12/07 03:06:22
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
BBAP wrote: ... as GW tries to cater to the "deplorable virgin manchild" demographic.
What? You're saying that unironically? Come on...
BBAP wrote: The Sisters used to be Space Fanatics who did a nice line in Big Damn Hero bad-assery and were so pious their belief could do magic tricks. Now they wear skull-bras and high heels to war.
Sisters haven't changed in 20+ years. Most of their minis are still the same ones released in 2nd Ed. This thing you're complaining about is pointless, because that piece of artwork is over 20 years old. It's nothing new. It's a single model based on a piece of artwork.
Stop overreacting to nothing like a... well... like a Sisters player!
The model is well made even if I don't like the style. I guess this all but confirms plastic sisters are on the way now. Please GW answer the Kroot fans we've been wanting Kroot Mercenaries/Army book for awhile now. Hit it out of the park please.
2016/12/07 03:31:01
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
I personally like the high heels and goth boots. I was in fact disappointed in the sisters of silence when I realized they didn't take enough influence from the silver clad sam wood art from HH visions. Not enough leather, straps or goth boots. 40k is far fetched as is, always been a style over practicality kind of ordeal. Thats why I liked it in the first place.
I still have this empty feeling though, as this model really gives me little hope of a serious SoB revamp. Yeah its been rumored they might get a couple kits, but they have been rolled into another codex. Leaving little room for fluff, art, anything exciting in particular. Because now they have to share space with all the other subgroups. I remain highly skeptical for now. Besides, I think everyone thought this new model would be plastic and be a preview of an impending new range of models. That is basically debunked if you ask me.
2016/12/07 03:34:30
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
The Deathwatch and Grey Knights aren't going anywhere despite having formations/being included in this codex. I'm pretty sure this is the same thing. This represents an Inquisitorial force and not any of these individual factions alone.
I know Sisters Codex is coming I can feel it in my bones. It might be a mid sized release at first though to test the waters again.
The GW team was also apparently considering doing a Kroot Merc codex a long time ago.
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2016/12/07 03:46:31
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
H.B.M.C. wrote: What? You're saying that unironically? Come on...
Oooh, snarky. Hit a nerve?
Moving on.
Sisters haven't changed in 20+ years. Most of their minis are still the same ones released in 2nd Ed.
Except this new one, which is the thing I'm complaining about. Canoness Montana isn't a bad sculpt at all - she's just got hooker-hooves, a hooker pose, and weird goth lapdancer boob ornaments. I don't like what that portends.
Still gonna buy one, just gonna fix that nonsense with her legs and boobs.
This thing you're complaining about is pointless, because that piece of artwork is over 20 years old. It's nothing new. It's a single model based on a piece of artwork.
Yes, the piece of artwork is 20 years old. It's about as iconic as lollipop-headed Tyranid Warriors, Orks in Mongolian helmets wielding broadswords, or the Crimson Fists. It's probably the only official image in which a Sister of Battle is in any way sexualised - and it's the one they chose to sculpt for the refresh. Not the ass-kicking, mace-swinging, Empra-praising Space Nuns. The chick with the heels and the waist.
Praxedes is dead - long live Canoness Montana!
Stop overreacting to nothing like a... well... like a Sisters player!
Hurr durr more insults.
ok
Thargrim wrote: I personally like the high heels and goth boots. I was in fact disappointed in the sisters of silence when I realized they didn't take enough influence from the silver clad sam wood art from HH visions. Not enough leather, straps or goth boots. 40k is far fetched as is, always been a style over practicality kind of ordeal. Thats why I liked it in the first place.
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2016/12/07 03:51:45
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
I find myself praying for the release so that this thread will be put out of its misery and we can all move on.
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2016/12/07 03:54:50
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
People like sex and have it in weird ways. Is this really worthy of news. There's nothing wrong with it. It's not like anything else in 40k is realistic and it's not like this is going to draw in more girl players since this is ultimately minature wargaming and just seems to not appeal to them. Even among women there are those who love looking good and sexy all the time and those who are okay not being like that and then all the other average ones in between.
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2016/12/07 04:01:41
Subject: Re:GW: codex imperial agents and a suplement for the traitor legions
A Town Called Malus wrote: Her face is awful, in my opinion. Not sure if it is the paint job or the sculpt but the face of the model looks nothing like the artwork. They didn't even get the design of the eyepiece right and the painter forgot the fleur-de-lis under her eye.
The scarring on the right side (her left) of the face is way too raised up which, combined with the paintjob, makes it look like she's had an allergic reaction to a space-bee sting.
The expectations in this thread are off the chart.
That image is ~10x15 inches. Now reduce that in size to 1/5. Then try to pick out small details. You're asking for the most intricate of details to be placed on a canvas a tiny fraction of the size of the artwork.
2016/12/07 04:04:24
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
Gamgee wrote: People like sex and have it in weird ways. Is this really worthy of news. There's nothing wrong with it. It's not like anything else in 40k is realistic and it's not like this is going to draw in more girl players since this is ultimately minature wargaming and just seems to not appeal to them. Even among women there are those who love looking good and sexy all the time and those who are okay not being like that and then all the other average ones in between.
Wouldn't it be better to make some female Slaaneshi Cultist models, or more Dark Eldar models rather than putting those traits onto the ultra pious Sisters?
I mean, you want creepy dominatrix with a whip? Nothing fits better than Slaanesh. You want crazy psyco girl with gigantic sword? Female model for Incubi. These tropes are best solved by other factions, not by the Sisters of Battle.
2016/12/07 04:08:12
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
I can't speak for everyone but I'm not complaining that there are sexualized models... Hell I Kickstarted raging heroes and those are pin-upy beyond belief. What I am saying is that sisters of battle typically aren't portrayed that way and it is slightly disappointing the first model in over a decade is based on a very pin up piece of art. And I would go further and say even when I look for that type of model this one would not be my first choice as the posing is just odd.
2016/12/07 04:11:24
Subject: Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
MadCowCrazy wrote: I thought it was pretty funny and well thought out, using several tropes and puns. I laughed even though I'm a sisters player and therefore should feel insulted
I'm a Sisters player too. At least I used to be. Now I'm a Sisters collector. The post wasn't a jab at the Sisters; it was an ironic reflection on how Sisters have changed over time as GW tries to cater to the "deplorable virgin manchild" demographic. The Sisters used to be Space Fanatics who did a nice line in Big Damn Hero bad-assery and were so pious their belief could do magic tricks. Now they wear skull-bras and high heels to war.
If that's not how the final sculpts turn out then I'll happily apologise for being a cynical arse.
If.
All that said I'll probably still buy one, just because it's the first new Sisters model in, like, 15 years, and the more they sell they more likely they are to release new ones more frequently in future.
Except my horrible taste comment had nothing to do with sisters of battle, it was your sexism towards women that you decided to post, thinking it was funny, when its idiotic. Comments such as "women drivers" "eeek save me big strong man" etc don't have a place here. Your posting the same crap others have posted about sisters and gotten countless topics locked because of the same comments. Like the model or don't like it. thanks fine, leave the rest off here.