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2017/08/03 19:21:42
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
So people were just saying about how the mechanicus terrain was a poor fit for Necromunda and I started imagining GW coming up with a set of "Hiveworld" terrain that was:
1. In scale and theme with the original Necromunda hybrid plastic bulkhead/card floor terrain but all plastic and;
2. Made with the same mathematical approach to the overall design and final fit of the parts
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2017/08/03 19:47:54
Subject: Re:Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
Based on the vague rumours of a Necromunda re-boot this could easily be a new boxed game of that. However, different from the old game.
-Base it around a generic multi-part plastic gang kits (appeals to everyone and old school Necro players) vs. Adeptus Arbites (possibly the logo in that teaser)
-Stuff it with SWA terrain so that everyone can buy in - even those who missed Shadow War: Armageddon...heal some of that community damage
-Keeping it with generic gangers and arbites GW doesn't need to support it with a half dozen gangs or expansions, it can be just the basic game.
-Add in a bit more crunch than SWA.
-Throw in rules for gangers and arbites for use in your Imperium faction 40K armies.
-Gangers can also be used as Chaos Cultists etc.
-You get new players, terrain junkies, 40K nuts, old grognards and the Necromunda devotees all in one box. Price it like SWA...sell 50K units.
-New necromunda generates more interest for the PC reboot that's being done by the guys who did the Mordheim game.
It does seem pretty damn smart if they do this.
I'm fairly certain that quite a lot of old school Necro players would not even be slightly happy with that.
What you're describing isn't Necromunda, it's a Shadow War starter box with its own factions. Necromunda isn't just a game system, it's a setting, if you strip out all the things that make up that setting like the gangs, it isn't Necromunda any more.
Further, what was the point of resurrecting Specialist Games as a brand if they're not going to relaunch the actual Specialist Games? That would be like if they had brough back "Blood Bowl", but instead of actually bringing it back properly as they have done, they'd released a self-contained box set with an "Order" team(humans, elves, dwarfs, lizardmen) vs "Destruction" team(chaos warriors, orcs, goblins, dark elves). Now, considering Blood Bowl has apparently been wildly successful, to the point it even took GW by surprise, I'd say that pushing out a half arsed semi-reboot wearing the crudely hacked off brand-skin of Necromunda like a cape for a quick sales splash before it slides off into obscurity, rather than cashing in on the obvious nostalgia and proven appeal of the brand to release box after box of models at likely hideous prices keeping the money flowing in for months or even years, wouldn't be all that smart.
EDIT: For clarity and the benefit of the Positivity Police - your idea when considered in isolation is not bad, and if provided as a DW:OK-style self contained box game intro for Arbites into 40K, or as a Shadow War starter box, it's a product I'd be very happy with and would likely buy. It's not a product I would be happy buying in the context of a Necromunda replacement, or in the context of its existence being at the expense of a proper Necromunda re-release, is all.
As to the video; it's a cool eagle skull(skull eagle? skeagle?) logo, and the "industrial" tone could well suggest a hive world - I certainly wouldn't object to it being the new branding for Necromunda - but this doesn't even rise to the level of "teaser trailer", it could be almost anything; Necromunda, a SW:A expansion, a new 40K faction, hell it could be part of the cover art of a novel about a unit of Primaris Reivers battling [enemy of the Imperium] on [previously-mentioned hive world]
Oh I didn't mean that old school Necromunda players would want the game, just the models. I 100% believe there is no way in hell we're getting a proper Necromunda replacement which revolves around numerous aesthetically different gangs. When metal disappeared, the ability to do small run forces went out the window. There is not a chance in hell that GW will produce a full line of plastics to support a specialist game like Necromunda.
I firmly believe that if Necromunda comes back at all, it'll be a totally different game. I don't think any Necromunda fans really have a genuine expectation of a proper replacement coming out. That's a kind of pipe dream. So the second best thing? Some new models and terrain. I just expect from a business perspective that the above idea is the best/easiest option to appease (in some small part) a large portion of their fan base. Just doing a terrain box again at a discount would sell 10's of thousands of copies.
You know what, there's a chance we could just get Shadow War: Necromunda and have two new factions: gangers and arbites...and they could simply be tossed in with the current SWA rules and army lists, etc. Who knows.
I mean, two years ago I'd have 100% agreed with you, gak apparently I'm renowned for pessimism, but after Blood Bowl I think main-GW would have to actively interfere and try hard to feth up a new Specialist Games division version of Necromunda. I mean just transpose the BB release model over - starter box with 2 all-plastic factions, subsequent solo release of those factions plus 5 additonal plastic factions(atm 3, but we know plastic Elven Union and probably Nurgle are on the way) and 2+ plastic "big guy" models, and multiple resin extras through FW - and you could easily do Necromunda.
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2017/08/03 20:33:54
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
Galactic star coordinates. 50 Longitude and 78903 light years out (right on the edge of galactic space). Map below, but remember that you need to reorient yourself to this map, as it is not on the same plane here as a standard 40K map.
So if you imagine 90 degrees is straight up from earth, do 50 degrees, draw a line and go out that many light years. Looks like deep in the Dark lmperium, past the Gothic Secter to me, perhaps close or past the Storm of the Emperor's Wrath?
Could be wrong, but only thing I see it working with.
If you add the video's title to the warhammer-community url (as shown below), it redirects to a 24/11/2016 article about heavily armoured reinforcements in LotR.
The teaser for next month is 30 years of 40k. That code read backwards is 30/9/87. This cannot be a coincidence. I am guessing some kind of commemorative release and not Necromunda.
2017/08/04 08:39:12
Subject: Re:Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
This makes me think it's something to do with a "Dark Imperium". If your coordinates are right then it would mean they were cut off from gulliman for a long time and not only that but if the time warps made them jump forward even longer we could be seeing a totally new vaguely "Imperial" release of some sort.
if this was Necromunda then why wouldn't it use standard Imperial markings? If the Aquila is going to be on a sewer it's going to use the standard Aquila not some weird design.
Wait a second... chaos renegades faction of GW flavor?
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2017/08/04 09:48:04
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
Skull-eagle design kind of reminds me of the new reiver masks and the primaris chaplain's helmet, but that could just be the new aesthetic GW is using for skulls.
Don't the Emperor's Children still use imperial eagles in their iconography?
Still, my best guess would be astra militarum, possibly armageddon steel legion / ork hunters (steel legion officers have skull faceplates and the skull looks very slightly orkish). I've seem some muttering (probably wishful thinking, but still) about an ork codex before Christmas with a new Ghaz model, so Armageddon would tie in with that.
Chikout wrote: The teaser for next month is 30 years of 40k. That code read backwards is 30/9/87. This cannot be a coincidence. I am guessing some kind of commemorative release and not Necromunda.
I agree and let's not forget that everything started with Rogue Traders. In 1st Edition they were intended to be the center of many forces on the tabletop while nowadays they are mostly background and rpg material. Just a guess but could they (FW/GW) bring back Rogue Traders as a playable faction, in a standalone game or a handful of anniversary miniatures with rules for 40k?
Spoiler:
That would be a blast
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2017/08/04 10:29:17
Subject: Re:Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
Rogue Traders as a faction and then a new Xenos race, put them together in a box set. Holy how awesome would that be?!
Also Chikout with the sherlock skills there, that just seems obvious now.
Very interesting, so I am guessing the WD will mainly feature DG but since Necromunda is going to be teased at least in the next issue....hmm maybe they will give us a compilation of some of the things coming in the future, Shadespire, Necromunda, Titanicus etc?
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2017/08/04 10:51:51
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
This thread is suddenly so much fun. There are people at GW laughing their asses off at our speculation.
Bull0 wrote: Yeah, "generic gangers that could also be chaos cultists fighting over mechanicus terrain" would not be necromunda. I don't think anybody would be too excited for that really
Well... I'd like more terrain.
(/meek excuse)
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Chikout wrote: The teaser for next month is 30 years of 40k. That code read backwards is 30/9/87. This cannot be a coincidence. I am guessing some kind of commemorative release and not Necromunda.
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Chikout wrote: The teaser for next month is 30 years of 40k. That code read backwards is 30/9/87. This cannot be a coincidence. I am guessing some kind of commemorative release and not Necromunda.
I saw this on Facebook. It is the same image as the badge.
Tony Cottrell wearing it doesn't really reduce the possibilities. He is in charge of forgeworld but he is also one of the longest serving members of GW and gave a interview previously on warhammer live about the history of 40k.
2017/08/04 23:48:44
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
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2017/08/05 06:14:41
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
Chikout wrote: The teaser for next month is 30 years of 40k. That code read backwards is 30/9/87. This cannot be a coincidence. I am guessing some kind of commemorative release and not Necromunda.
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2017/08/05 08:45:13
Subject: Re:Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
... whilst I'd love it to be for necromunda or adeptus titanicus or whatever one suspects it's probably something closer to an army building app or something.
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2017/08/05 18:04:57
Subject: Re:Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
I saw this on Facebook. It is the same image as the badge.
Tony Cottrell wearing it doesn't really reduce the possibilities. He is in charge of forgeworld but he is also one of the longest serving members of GW and gave a interview previously on warhammer live about the history of 40k.
Could be a teaser for Mortarion? It could be an representation of his face which was always sunken and skull like and got worse when he ascended to daemonhood. Not sure how that links to the eagles but it could be linked to him being s primarch. Also although September is NOW the 9th month of the year it was originally the 7th hence SEPT. And nurgle's number is 7...
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2017/08/05 22:19:11
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
