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I already checked that, there was just the exact same images we've seen before, and something about HH: Angelus. Nothing on FoC.

Bleh, couldn't even bother making new slides for Cyraxus. I guess that pretty much sums up their whole priorities.

 CragHack wrote:
Bleh, couldn't even bother making new slides for Cyraxus. I guess that pretty much sums up their whole priorities.

Yep. Pretty much my entire feelings rn.

Is everyone just skipping over the fact there's gonna be another official Blood Ravens model? Ya know, the one that's their fething Chapter Master?

Does that mean...rules?

The new Sicarans are gorgeous. I need them.

New sicaran? MINE!
Dropship? MINE!
KSons Praetor (who needs to lead my sekhmet)? MINE!
Amon? MINE!
SoS whale? MINE!

But seriously, that dropship is too cool. I'm imagining my custodes flying one of those alongside my RG's ships. Sigh...

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Heresy confirmed to use a'tweaked' 7th Ed rules

 ImAGeek wrote:
From the Imperial Truth on FB

Whoa, I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more discussion here so far!

I thought the opposite, that it would use 8th edition rules...

I'm not sure what to think... at least when they release Fires of Cyraxus I can try out the 8th edition rules with my Mechanicum, but the lack of specifics on that has me wondering what to do in the interim. If anyone there in-person can bug them on timeline regarding the book, I'm sure the legion of us waiting on it would appreciate it

Got me confused here too. For one, sticking to 7th is pretty logical as phasing out that many volumes of HH books, that cost 70-80 quid each would most likely cause a massive gak storm.

On the other hand, there's the question: for how long? Will they just stick to 7th, until they release pretty much everything and then leave it as a half-dead setting with minor tweaks one in a while? Because they would eventually have to phase out all the books anyways..

 CragHack wrote:
Got me confused here too. For one, sticking to 7th is pretty logical as phasing out that many volumes of HH books, that cost 70-80 quid each would most likely cause a massive gak storm.

On the other hand, there's the question: for how long? Will they just stick to 7th, until they release pretty much everything and then leave it as a half-dead setting with minor tweaks one in a while? Because they would eventually have to phase out all the books anyways..

It is essentially just a Specialist Game now. And "release pretty much everything" LOL Dude, they can't release enough fast enough for this to be a real issue.

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 CragHack wrote:
Got me confused here too. For one, sticking to 7th is pretty logical as phasing out that many volumes of HH books, that cost 70-80 quid each would most likely cause a massive gak storm.

On the other hand, there's the question: for how long? Will they just stick to 7th, until they release pretty much everything and then leave it as a half-dead setting with minor tweaks one in a while? Because they would eventually have to phase out all the books anyways..

It is essentially just a Specialist Game now. And "release pretty much everything" LOL Dude, they can't release enough fast enough for this to be a real issue.

Have they confirmed that? Or at least mentioned anything about it converting to 8th? I recall them saying that it eventually it will be updated to 8th. That's why it's so confusing

 CragHack wrote:
Got me confused here too. For one, sticking to 7th is pretty logical as phasing out that many volumes of HH books, that cost 70-80 quid each would most likely cause a massive gak storm.

On the other hand, there's the question: for how long? Will they just stick to 7th, until they release pretty much everything and then leave it as a half-dead setting with minor tweaks one in a while? Because they would eventually have to phase out all the books anyways..

I suspect that this is intended to give them time to a) finish releasing everything for 7th and b) work on updating everything for 8th.

But as em_en_oh_pee said, "finish releasing everything for 7th" is kinda crazy idea. Considering they haven't really finished releasing stuff from last year Eh...

 Verviedi wrote:

 CragHack wrote:
Bleh, couldn't even bother making new slides for Cyraxus. I guess that pretty much sums up their whole priorities.

Yep. Pretty much my entire feelings rn.

Yeap. The last big event FW attended they said there would be at least one or two new models for FoC this year and this was just a few months back. We know the book got delayed, but I thought they would show those off today. They said it wouldn't new a super heavy flyer or suit. So I guess that isn't happening. Not if it means space marines go without release for one week.

It's never going to come out is it?

With the Tyranids being obliterated by Khorne in like the blink of an eye. Does anyone else think this is the end for the Xenos in 40k? Oh sure our model ranges will always be there, but it feels like we're not going to get anything anymore. It sure feels that way.

Christ man, enough already! They just lost one of their writers.

 BrookM wrote:
Christ man, enough already! They just lost one of their writers.

I didn't know sorry.

 Gamgee wrote:
With the Tyranids being obliterated by Khorne in like the blink of an eye. Does anyone else think this is the end for the Xenos in 40k? Oh sure our model ranges will always be there, but it feels like we're not going to get anything anymore. It sure feels that way.

Really, feth off with this baseless speculation. This is also the wrong fething thread for this bs.

 djones520 wrote:

 Verviedi wrote:

 djones520 wrote:
Concrete stuff on Fires of Cyraxus. Are people happy now?

Where is it transcribed?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/27/warhammer-fest-live-blog/

I see noting other than "it exists".

 CragHack wrote:
Got me confused here too. For one, sticking to 7th is pretty logical as phasing out that many volumes of HH books, that cost 70-80 quid each would most likely cause a massive gak storm.

On the other hand, there's the question: for how long? Will they just stick to 7th, until they release pretty much everything and then leave it as a half-dead setting with minor tweaks one in a while? Because they would eventually have to phase out all the books anyways..

I would hope that they stick with 7th until a sensible break-point like the Siege of Terra book/s so that everyone who wants it can have a "complete" set of Heresy rules based on 7th. Once that point is reached, they can switch over to 8th if they intend to carry on into The Scouring or whichever other "historical" period of 40K they choose to cover, and could release a set of final compilation Red Books in 8th as well if they think there would be sufficient demand.

Hell, I might well get an 8th Ed version of the HH rules, but only if I can finish my existing collection of content first in case I find I don't enjoy 8th.

There was one marine model I liked. Gabriel my boy from the Blood Ravens. Certified cool chapter by Gamgee. The only one guys. Just make stuff for them and you will finally get me to buy space marines.

The odd thing about them sticking with 7th, is just two months ago they said they were going to 8th, right? That doesn't fill me with confidence about their long term plans for the system...

Anyone at Warhammerfest and could just ask? Please?

I am stoked for the SoS aquisitor!

Me wants it!!

This is from the comments on BattleBunnies:

'In the seminar he said that 30k would develop separately to 40k from this point. The 8th edition rules didn't give them the depth to have differences between all 18 Legions, whereas a streamlined 7th edition does allow this.'

Someone at Forge World wrote:The 8th edition rules didn't give them the depth to have differences between all 18 Legions, whereas a streamlined 7th edition does allow this.

Now that's a rather...interesting thing to say, isn't it?

I'm rather curious about the "streamlined 7th"

 Alpharius wrote:

Someone at Forge World wrote:The 8th edition rules didn't give them the depth to have differences between all 18 Legions, whereas a streamlined 7th edition does allow this.

Now that's a rather...interesting thing to say, isn't it?

In that it's a direct insult of the main design studio? Yes.

I can't say I'm surprised, and I definitely respect Forge World wanting to go in this direction. They've always struck me as a company that likes their models and fluff more than writing rules. But inevitably their parent company comes out with a new edition and then their existing book sales plummet. By having their own core rules that they publish, they can finally have ownership of that development cycle. Hopefully their edition 7.5 is well edited.

Seems I gotta buy that Index forces of the AM book.

I'm so stoked by the sticking with 7th, putting out there own rulebook thing. I am now however tempted to collected all the big expensive books, instead of just the odd one here or there with the legions I most like. (I currently only have two)

It could cause issues, such as what happens if it sells better than 8th? Unlikely given the limited sales channels but if large numbers of current players move to 30k instead of the new system?

Also all the custodes stuff previewed so far looks awesome.

changemod wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

Someone at Forge World wrote:The 8th edition rules didn't give them the depth to have differences between all 18 Legions, whereas a streamlined 7th edition does allow this.

Now that's a rather...interesting thing to say, isn't it?

In that it's a direct insult of the main design studio? Yes.

Flipside it also accidentally acknowledging that every HH legion army is so nearly identical to each other that you need tons and tons of extra words to make it not just 18 armies worth of mirror matches.

Edit double post.I