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 Imateria wrote:
So much for my Corsairs, though I have no idea what a Skyreaver is.

Looks like corsairs are now 3 entries indeed.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Maybe there was enough noise from people to get them to include the Plague Hulk, so much so that they're going to resurrect its moulds or do a new version.

Ties into the Death Guard release quite well perhaps.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Rydria wrote:
Abit sad there isn't rules for the sonic dreadnought anymore since i now have 2 dreads/hellbrutes with illegal weapon options :/

Maybe discuss with your group allowing you to just use the costs in the Chaos Index to add the weapons to a Hellbrute? I mean we basically have all the points costs right there and the way they do it now makes custom units/models even easier than before...

This could work for the sonic weapons.

I doubt they will let me take a chainfist at 22pts over a hellbrute fist which costs 40pts : P

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Does Forgeworld still sell those models? The promise was to provide rules for the models they currently sell, right?

Plus SOME old favourites which explains plague hulk.

tneva82 wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Does Forgeworld still sell those models? The promise was to provide rules for the models they currently sell, right?

Plus SOME old favourites which explains plague hulk.

Kinda weird that they prioritised a Nurgle soul grinder when that has rules anyhow, albeit less specific.

mortar_crew wrote:

 Imateria wrote:
So much for my Corsairs, though I have no idea what a Skyreaver is.

Looks like corsairs are now 3 entries indeed.

Basically all the Corsairs they lacked models for were axed.
I guess you can hope for a special case where you can make certain Craftworld + Dark Eldar units get the Corsair Keyword or the like?

Still not great though.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

mortar_crew wrote:

 Imateria wrote:
So much for my Corsairs, though I have no idea what a Skyreaver is.

Looks like corsairs are now 3 entries indeed.

Basically all the Corsairs they lacked models for were axed.

Offhand, it looks like they mostly only did rules for the models they still produce. Which is what they promised, right? I know it sucks they didn't do anything for the legacy models that are no longer made, but that's been an ongoing thing with Forgeworld for years now with every new edition or codex update, anyway. Besides, there will still be new IA books, and those can always reintroduce the missing stuff. Personally, I'm still surprised they updated so many of the Badab War characters to 8th.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

mortar_crew wrote:

 Imateria wrote:
So much for my Corsairs, though I have no idea what a Skyreaver is.

Looks like corsairs are now 3 entries indeed.

Basically all the Corsairs they lacked models for were axed.

Offhand, it looks like they mostly only did rules for the models they still produce. Which is what they promised, right? I know it sucks they didn't do anything for the legacy models that are no longer made, but that's been an ongoing thing with Forgeworld for years now with every new edition or codex update, anyway. Besides, there will still be new IA books, and those can always reintroduce the missing stuff. Personally, I'm still surprised they updated so many of the Badab War characters to 8th.

Honestly, I'll be surprised if all their IG tanks get rules. I mean, has anyone here ever actually faced a trojan support vehicle? Or a MACHARIUS VANQUISHER? Or a taurus? Actually, I have seen a Taurus used before, but unless you play Elisians, or DKOK, you probably won't own one. I mean, they are great models, and I would buy all of them if they were 30k compatible, but really?

In the car with the family today and I hit the phone display not realising it was connected to the wife's phone. Last dialled number..... 'forgeworld'! Seems either she is taking up some gaming or I'm getting a great Father's Day present!
Also mightily impressed she has their number saved on her phone!

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

mortar_crew wrote:

 Imateria wrote:
So much for my Corsairs, though I have no idea what a Skyreaver is.

Looks like corsairs are now 3 entries indeed.

Basically all the Corsairs they lacked models for were axed.

Offhand, it looks like they mostly only did rules for the models they still produce. Which is what they promised, right? I know it sucks they didn't do anything for the legacy models that are no longer made, but that's been an ongoing thing with Forgeworld for years now with every new edition or codex update, anyway. Besides, there will still be new IA books, and those can always reintroduce the missing stuff. Personally, I'm still surprised they updated so many of the Badab War characters to 8th.

Honestly, I'll be surprised if all their IG tanks get rules. I mean, has anyone here ever actually faced a trojan support vehicle? Or a MACHARIUS VANQUISHER? Or a taurus? Actually, I have seen a Taurus used before, but unless you play Elisians, or DKOK, you probably won't own one. I mean, they are great models, and I would buy all of them if they were 30k compatible, but really?

Well, all the imperial stuff is here:

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/60040187059_ImperialArmourAstraMilitarum03.jpg

Including long oop stuff.

Aquila lander anyone?
Atlas?
Trojan?
Even the fortress walls are here,
so the "oop models are not here, as they said" theory is not valid in my opinion.
I am happy most of the stuff (still no platform, but these can be covered by carriage anyway) is updated for imperial players,
but again there is no logic to be seen here, and slides from the seminars said all models (not all model still production)
will be updated.
Some were, some not. The ork line suffered most.

 Knockagh wrote:
In the car with the family today and I hit the phone display not realising it was connected to the wife's phone. Last dialled number..... 'forgeworld'! Seems either she is taking up some gaming or I'm getting a great Father's Day present!
Also mightily impressed she has their number saved on her phone!

Good for you!

Now, as the father of human civilisation I deserve something too. Maybe a warlord titan...

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:

 Knockagh wrote:
In the car with the family today and I hit the phone display not realising it was connected to the wife's phone. Last dialled number..... 'forgeworld'! Seems either she is taking up some gaming or I'm getting a great Father's Day present!
Also mightily impressed she has their number saved on her phone!

Good for you!

Now, as the father of human civilisation I deserve something too. Maybe a warlord titan...

Or she's seen the bills, called them to tell them of your untimely demise, and told them that people are trying to order stuff in your name and never allow it to happen again . But keep being a glass half full guy, it's better that way really.

Oh, sorry for OT question, I was just looking at some DKoK to buy alongside the new Index book and noticed they are no longer available. I assume this has been for a while? Was there any response to it?

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Oh, sorry for OT question, I was just looking at some DKoK to buy alongside the new Index book and noticed they are no longer available. I assume this has been for a while? Was there any response to it?

They sure look available to me when I search for them on the FW site...

 Platuan4th wrote:

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Oh, sorry for OT question, I was just looking at some DKoK to buy alongside the new Index book and noticed they are no longer available. I assume this has been for a while? Was there any response to it?

They sure look available to me when I search for them on the FW site...

Yeah working fine now. Hmmm must have just been a cock up on the site. Crisis averted.

I think it's the 8th edition restruct of the site, the search was acting wonky on Friday night for me, too.

The Gue'vesa auxiliary team also seems to be missing from the book's contents :(

Every single Warhammer 40,000 miniature that Forge World make today will be covered, as well as a few classic ones.

Emphasis mine.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/23/forge-world-and-the-new-warhammer-40000/

So could we perhaps dial back on the lamentations about how there aren't rules for things that they clearly said there weren't going to be rules for?

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:

Or a taurus? Actually, I have seen a Taurus used before, but unless you play Elisians, or DKOK, you probably won't own one.

Actually, that might not be true anymore. Forge World did say they'd be giving factions access to units that they never had before, and if you look at the Table of Contents it lists the Tauros under the general Astra Militarum datasheets rather than the Elysian specific ones. So at a bare minimum it means that standard Guard should have access to the Tauros.

Now they just need to let my Heretics also use them, and my dream of Heretic technicals will finall be a reality.

Also, on the subject of Renegades and Heretics, did anyone else wince a bit at the mention that we might need ~$95USD worth of books just to run our army? I'll probably hold off on any other Indexes until I can buy the FW Astra Militarum index to confim thats the case, but if so then it's really disappointing.

 Theophony wrote:

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:

 Knockagh wrote:
In the car with the family today and I hit the phone display not realising it was connected to the wife's phone. Last dialled number..... 'forgeworld'! Seems either she is taking up some gaming or I'm getting a great Father's Day present!
Also mightily impressed she has their number saved on her phone!

Good for you!

Now, as the father of human civilisation I deserve something too. Maybe a warlord titan...

Or she's seen the bills, called them to tell them of your untimely demise, and told them that people are trying to order stuff in your name and never allow it to happen again . But keep being a glass half full guy, it's better that way really.

Sh*t I never thought of that! Have to admit I've been concerned about the silence over the increase in hobby related stuff that's invaded the house. She hasn't said a word.....
if I'm banned from FW I will have to get the kids to buy stuff.

Jack Flask wrote:
So at a bare minimum it means that standard Guard should have access to the Tauros.

They already did, in IA1 (second edition). They're just not very useful rules-wise, so you didn't see them much unless someone was doing a themed Elysian army.

Since the Sicaran Punisher is listed I guess it can't be that far off.

mortar_crew wrote:

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

mortar_crew wrote:

 Imateria wrote:
So much for my Corsairs, though I have no idea what a Skyreaver is.

Looks like corsairs are now 3 entries indeed.

Basically all the Corsairs they lacked models for were axed.

Offhand, it looks like they mostly only did rules for the models they still produce. Which is what they promised, right? I know it sucks they didn't do anything for the legacy models that are no longer made, but that's been an ongoing thing with Forgeworld for years now with every new edition or codex update, anyway. Besides, there will still be new IA books, and those can always reintroduce the missing stuff. Personally, I'm still surprised they updated so many of the Badab War characters to 8th.

Honestly, I'll be surprised if all their IG tanks get rules. I mean, has anyone here ever actually faced a trojan support vehicle? Or a MACHARIUS VANQUISHER? Or a taurus? Actually, I have seen a Taurus used before, but unless you play Elisians, or DKOK, you probably won't own one. I mean, they are great models, and I would buy all of them if they were 30k compatible, but really?

Well, all the imperial stuff is here:

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/60040187059_ImperialArmourAstraMilitarum03.jpg

Including long oop stuff.

Aquila lander anyone?
Atlas?
Trojan?
Even the fortress walls are here,
so the "oop models are not here, as they said" theory is not valid in my opinion.
I am happy most of the stuff (still no platform, but these can be covered by carriage anyway) is updated for imperial players,
but again there is no logic to be seen here, and slides from the seminars said all models (not all model still production)
will be updated.
Some were, some not. The ork line suffered most.

Ork line is weird a lot of the models they stoped making such as various weapons they made and tanks, flyers, battlefortreses and gunwagons have absolutely no rules but what confuses me is they still sell the halftrakks, enclosed cab trukks and mega dread and they also lacks rules maybe the mega dread is rolled into options for the meka dread? No freakin clue

To be fair the meka dread can be huge for dread mobs as another kff model. Zhardsnark can be huge for warbikers, buzzgrob (who may still have his stompa) can maybe make his stompa decent and give stompas even more offensive ability, the big trakk should be a more durable trukk with better weapon options, the squiggoths can be tough and the chinork kopta can be an interesting twist. I realize FW will benefit the imperial soup the most but orks can definitely gain a benefit to some of thier stronger lists.


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Jack Flask wrote:

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:

Or a taurus? Actually, I have seen a Taurus used before, but unless you play Elisians, or DKOK, you probably won't own one.

Actually, that might not be true anymore. Forge World did say they'd be giving factions access to units that they never had before, and if you look at the Table of Contents it lists the Tauros under the general Astra Militarum datasheets rather than the Elysian specific ones. So at a bare minimum it means that standard Guard should have access to the Tauros.

Now they just need to let my Heretics also use them, and my dream of Heretic technicals will finall be a reality.

Also, on the subject of Renegades and Heretics, did anyone else wince a bit at the mention that we might need ~$95USD worth of books just to run our army? I'll probably hold off on any other Indexes until I can buy the FW Astra Militarum index to confim thats the case, but if so then it's really disappointing.

Ha even better gene cults have access to all units with the Astra militarum keyword. That creates a few strong options if they gain the shadow rules. However I want to see some people conversions of the sentinel powerlifter in genecult themeed lists.

The funniest thing with forgeworld is the mold for DKOK grenadiers broke at the worst possible time for them as scions or basically grenadiers which are carapace vets with hotshot guns are literally one of the most overpowered units in 8th. Forgeworld would have sold a lot of these models if they can quickly redo that mold.

What is an Infernum Pattern Razorback?

Twin Multi Metla Razorback.

 Malika2 wrote:
What is an Infernum Pattern Razorback?

Multi-melta turret.

 Malika2 wrote:
What is an Infernum Pattern Razorback?

Razorback with a Multimelta.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Multi-melta-Razorback-Conversion-Kit

gungo wrote:

mortar_crew wrote:

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

mortar_crew wrote:

 Imateria wrote:
So much for my Corsairs, though I have no idea what a Skyreaver is.

Looks like corsairs are now 3 entries indeed.

Basically all the Corsairs they lacked models for were axed.

Offhand, it looks like they mostly only did rules for the models they still produce. Which is what they promised, right? I know it sucks they didn't do anything for the legacy models that are no longer made, but that's been an ongoing thing with Forgeworld for years now with every new edition or codex update, anyway. Besides, there will still be new IA books, and those can always reintroduce the missing stuff. Personally, I'm still surprised they updated so many of the Badab War characters to 8th.

Honestly, I'll be surprised if all their IG tanks get rules. I mean, has anyone here ever actually faced a trojan support vehicle? Or a MACHARIUS VANQUISHER? Or a taurus? Actually, I have seen a Taurus used before, but unless you play Elisians, or DKOK, you probably won't own one. I mean, they are great models, and I would buy all of them if they were 30k compatible, but really?

Well, all the imperial stuff is here:

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/60040187059_ImperialArmourAstraMilitarum03.jpg

Including long oop stuff.

Aquila lander anyone?
Atlas?
Trojan?
Even the fortress walls are here,
so the "oop models are not here, as they said" theory is not valid in my opinion.
I am happy most of the stuff (still no platform, but these can be covered by carriage anyway) is updated for imperial players,
but again there is no logic to be seen here, and slides from the seminars said all models (not all model still production)
will be updated.
Some were, some not. The ork line suffered most.

Ork line is weird a lot of the models they stoped making such as various weapons they made and tanks, flyers, battlefortreses and gunwagons have absolutely no rules but what confuses me is they still sell the halftrakks, enclosed cab trukks and mega dread and they also lacks rules maybe the mega dread is rolled into options for the meka dread? No freakin clue

To be fair the meka dread can be huge for dread mobs as another kff model. Zhardsnark can be huge for warbikers, buzzgrob (who may still have his stompa) can maybe make his stompa decent and give stompas even more offensive ability, the big trakk should be a more durable trukk with better weapon options, the squiggoths can be tough and the chinork kopta can be an interesting twist. I realize FW will benefit the imperial soup the most but orks can definitely gain a benefit to some of thier stronger lists.


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Jack Flask wrote:

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:

Or a taurus? Actually, I have seen a Taurus used before, but unless you play Elisians, or DKOK, you probably won't own one.

Actually, that might not be true anymore. Forge World did say they'd be giving factions access to units that they never had before, and if you look at the Table of Contents it lists the Tauros under the general Astra Militarum datasheets rather than the Elysian specific ones. So at a bare minimum it means that standard Guard should have access to the Tauros.

Now they just need to let my Heretics also use them, and my dream of Heretic technicals will finall be a reality.

Also, on the subject of Renegades and Heretics, did anyone else wince a bit at the mention that we might need ~$95USD worth of books just to run our army? I'll probably hold off on any other Indexes until I can buy the FW Astra Militarum index to confim thats the case, but if so then it's really disappointing.

Ha even better gene cults have access to all units with the Astra militarum keyword. That creates a few strong options if they gain the shadow rules. However I want to see some people conversions of the sentinel powerlifter in genecult themeed lists.

The funniest thing with forgeworld is the mold for DKOK grenadiers broke at the worst possible time for them as scions or basically grenadiers which are carapace vets with hotshot guns are literally one of the most overpowered units in 8th. Forgeworld would have sold a lot of these models if they can quickly redo that mold.

Well tanks, flyers, battlefortreses and gunwagons absolutely had rules for 7th edition in IA 8,
all were covered including the various weapon options.

What is making me mad is that they made rules for the lifta-wagon which is oop, and
not for the more common stuff such as the the grot-launchas battery,
gun wagonz or forteresses which were trademark vehicules for the orks.

They still sell the halftrakk and armored cab trukk which are, well trukk
variants, used for chassis for the Gun trukks in the IA list.
(basically, the trukk gave up its transport capacity to fit a big gun).

I really hope they will consider to address this issue later with
datasheets to cover the missing stuff (at least grot-launchas battery,
gun wagonz or forteresses, I can understand for the flyers), and a looted wagon datasheet
would be nice also.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Twin Multi Metla Razorback.

While that would be cool, it's just 1 multi-melta on the turret, unfortunately!

Are they still going to do a book that has Admech in it?